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If she didn't initiate the kiss there would be no film


If she didn't kiss him then there would not be a film or rather a very different film.

This is where it becomes the passive male fantasy which doesn't happen on screen very often or in real life.

Does this passive male approach only work in the movies?

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What are you talking about? What on Earth is a "passive male fantasy"?

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Well when I met my wife 25 years ago I was sort of passive and she initiated the first kiss. We were adults of similar age as the characters in Notting Hill. So from my experience it happens in real life. In my case I was afraid of chasing her away if I came on too strong, so she took the initiative. I have to say it worked out pretty well! 

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Does this passive male approach only work in the movies?

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it worked for Eve so why not Julia

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Wow, talk about losing the plot. This film helps explain why so many American women are married to British men, more than any other I've seen. It has very little to do with the "passive male fantasy" which only would be thought about if you're extremely immature in life or live in a cave.

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Newsflash! Most "British men" are not like Hugh Grant's character in this movie. If your statistic is correct I suggest it is because British men seek relationships with American ladies, because their immediate alternatives aren't very attractive!


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Two things. To quote Chris Rock: "Women don't marry down". Especially the type that could make it to Britain and have enormous amount of time to spend on a serious relationship inside the country. They certainly ain't marrying your average football hooligan.

Second, would you say British men in the upper classes are more reserved or totality gregarious and outgoing like American men? That's why American female/British gentleman relationships work out well. Opposites attract and match very well together. It seems to work for all the friends I know involved in an Anglo American marriage. Not close to one divorce so far.

Alice Eve explains it well from the opposite perspective:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0GgHhOqUrUw

If she can't get British men to ask her out..... My Gosh!

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They're more like Spike.

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If she didn't kiss him then there would not be a film or rather a very different film.

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same as for Titanic and icebergs

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Or Nazis in Casablanca...

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All I know, is that I'd date Colin Firth after seeing Kingsman. He was so cool.
And, yes, that accent...faints.



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Oh, I beat you to him. I've wanted to date him since Valmont, way back in 1989. He's mine, lol.

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I don't find passive men appealing at all. I am not sure how succesful they are likely to be in real life. I personally don't think I would have a problem with being in a relationship with someone poorer than me, but the total lack of self confidence is what woukd render him unappealing to me.

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As they say, nice guys finish last.

~ I'm a 21st century man and I don't wanna be here.

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I think a man can be nice without being passive. A bit of assertiveness is rather nice in a man.

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I'm passive in relationships as a result of shyness, yet I make enough money and have managed to attract several intelligent, nice-looking women, the last of which married me (it was her idea). Everything has worked out well, only forty-two years so far. Hope you do as well.

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That whole scene in his house was just so awkward. It really floundered. And then, all of a sudden, she kisses him, full on the mouth. There was no twinkling of attraction, and then she just kisses him like that. What was she thinking??

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i think it's important to remember hugh's character was divorced. his wife left him, so he was a very insecure man. in this instance, yes the woman has to be the persistent one. we're just used to seeing women insecure, not men. i thought it was a nice change.

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I would have no problem with her taking charge. However, it looked like she was annoyed or embarrassed for most of their time together. It wasn't like she was trying to flirt with him and he was too dense to pick up the signals. It was nothing and then the kiss.

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