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1) Why did Nick decide to contact his old buddy after all this time ?

One reason could be to give him the wedding present (the 2 watches), right?

2) But then why were Nicks partners in crime (the hot chick and mister moustache) after him ? Did Nick double-cross them somehow ?

It seemed the money was the same loot from the drug deal with the hammer-toting dealer, which "belonged" to Nick and Casey ergo no double-cross as such.

Maybe they just got greedy ?

3) And why did Nick feel the need to borrow Caseys car (in which he hid the money) ? What exactly did he get up to before he got shot up ?

4) How did the beemer with the money in the spare end up back at his house ?

Nick didn't drive it there, as that would be pretty hard without his head. So it must have been the cop.

5) But then how did he leave again ?

Maybe I should have paid more attention...

I am not a complete idiot. Some parts are missing.

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As much as I like this movie, the motivations and actions of many of the characters are not realistic or intelligent, to say the least. But whatever...

1.) Nick got a hold of Casey after all that time because the script deemed it necessary. Why else would Nick pop in ? The wedding present seems tacked on and I don't think they wanted to reminisce about being racist and shooting pregnant women ...

2.) Dallas and Billy Hill were after Nick because he ran off with the cops' money and someone else's heroin. None of the day's events have anything to do with Ballpeen.

3.) Nick arrived in a cab, presumably because he bailed on his partners. The script would have you believe that Nick needed Casey's BMW to stash the money and the watches for him to find later ... that dosen't seem rational to me, but hey, Nick was snorting a lot of coke, who knows what he was thinking ...

4.) Mickey Rourke's character stupidly brought the car back to Casey. He must have been too busy sawing off Nick's head to think of searching the BMW.

5.) Unexplained. But I'd guess other cops.

As much as I like this movie, there are leaps of logic that I wish were not there ...

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The script would have you believe that Nick needed Casey's BMW to stash the money and the watches for him to find later ... that dosen't seem rational to me, but hey, Nick was snorting a lot of coke, who knows what he was thinking ...

Good point.

So one real question remains. What the hell did Nick get up to on his final day?

He arrived with the money and the coke, drove off (minus the coke) in a car no one could tie to him and got killed anyway (by the cops).

How did they manage to track him down in another town driving another car ?



Unless, he arrived chez Casey WITH the coke but WITHOUT cash. He agreed to sell his coke to the cops but double-crossed them. Killed some federales but caught a bullet himself. Then hid the money and pretty much died in the phone booth.

That sort of makes sense, but then Rourke would have been REALLY stupid not to search the car.

I am not a complete idiot. Some parts are missing.

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"So one real question remains. What the hell did Nick get up to on his final day?"

Obviously, he was shot and bleeding, expecting to die. I would guess the cops or drug dealers found him and shot it out with him. Maybe he took the money to make some truce and he double-crossed them or they double-crossed him.

"How did they manage to track him down in another town driving another car ?"

The cops could have gotten Casey's vehicle registration from the DMV and tracked his car. He drove an uncommon car. You don't see many BMW station wagons. Maybe they didn't know the car was involved. Nick told Casey the car was in short-term parking at the airport. I'm not sure what that means. Any ideas?

"That sort of makes sense, but then Rourke would have been REALLY stupid not to search the car."

Maybe Rourke was just lazy. He thought he had Casey where he wanted him, so let him do the searching. It was hidden pretty well, inside of tires pumped full of air. He could have done a cursory search and still missed them.

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"4.) Mickey Rourke's character stupidly brought the car back to Casey. He must have been too busy sawing off Nick's head to think of searching the BMW."

Nick told Casey on the phone that the car was in IAH short-term parking, at the airport. How did the cop know where it was to get it? That adds more confusion. Maybe he didn't think Nick would be stupid enough to hide the money in the car. Maybe he was just lazy and figured he'd let Casey do the searching.

"As much as I like this movie, there are leaps of logic that I wish were not there"

The leaps of logic never really bothered me. All movies have plot holes to some degree. Maybe the writer was high when he wrote it. Pulp Fiction's plot was not exactly air-tight. You have non-existent quotes from the Bible, guns fired from close range totally missing two targets, nobody deafened from having guns fired right next to their ears, and ridiculously implausible coincidences.

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The leaps of logic never really bothered me. All movies have plot holes to some degree.

True. It didn't bother me during the movie either, just afterwards.

I am not a complete idiot. Some parts are missing.

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I was more bothered by some of Thomas Jane's acting. His voice seemed shaky at times when it should have been more arrogant and cocky. What I love most about Thursday is Paulina Porizkova's character, Dallas. She's the biggest psychotic bitch since Catherine Tramell. She carries the movie, through all its relative implausibilities and weaknesses. Jane is the biggest problem.

The racism with Ballpean was also uncomfortable, but you have to remember that Dallas is embellishing the story. Notice the difference between her vision and Casey's. When Dallas tells the story, it looks colorful and glossy. When Casey tells the story, it looks filthy, dirty, grimy, and sleazy.

I'd like to see Skip Woods make a prequel about Dallas's exploits, but Paulina would probably look too old for the part now after 9 years.

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"1) Why did Nick decide to contact his old buddy after all this time ?"

I think he was looking for a place to hide out while thinking what to do next.

"2) But then why were Nicks partners in crime (the hot chick and mister moustache) after him ? Did Nick double-cross them somehow ?"

He stole the suitcase full of drugs and money from them. Or maybe they tried to double-cross him and he had the drugs and money stashed somewhere.

"It seemed the money was the same loot from the drug deal with the hammer-toting dealer, which "belonged" to Nick and Casey ergo no double-cross as such."

Not likely. That was several years before. Nick, Dallas, and Billy were running their own drug deals, rip-offs, and scams. Casey and Nick probably split up the money, parted company, and spent their shares.

"3) And why did Nick feel the need to borrow Caseys car (in which he hid the money) ? What exactly did he get up to before he got shot up ?"

He came in a taxi. He had a stand-off with cops or drug dealers, got shot, got away to call Casey, then died shortly thereafter.

"4) How did the beemer with the money in the spare end up back at his house ?"

The cop brought them back. He gave Casey back his keys when he was invited in.

"5) But then how did he leave again ?"

Maybe he called a taxi or had someone follow him. Maybe he had the car towed to Casey's house by a police tow-truck. Not really important.

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I just gotta say I wish all threads were like this one. Most of the time it's just people bashing eachoher and trolls. There were some good points in these posts. Just an observation.

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1) Nick's business got desperate and he needed some stuff that Casey could provide (refuge, car).

2) Yes, Nick double-crossed them. Mister moustache said as much. Something like "This is Nick's fault. If he hadn't run out on us I wouldn't be here .."

3) He needed the car for "some unfinished business" - his words. Casey knows he means some kind of hit. We see Nick readying his gun before finishing the call with Casey. My guess is that he was going to take out Kasarov before Kasarov could do the same to him. It was Kasarov's money they stole. It didn't work, Kasarov prevailed. Also "How did they manage to track him down in another town driving another car?" - They didn't. Nick came to them. It wasn't a different town.

4) Kasarov drove it there. Kasarov hands Casey the car keys as he comes into the house.

5) Unknown. He got a taxi. Or the bus. Or walked (it does happen). Or hitch-hiked. Or teleported. It doesn't matter.

The one thing that I hadn't noticed, which was mentioned by a previous poster, was that Nick (who knew he was close to death) told Casey the car was at the airport. So Kasarov must have got it from there. So then Kasarov must have been close at hand at that point, to have sawn Nick's head off AND get the car. I agree Kasarov should have searched the car.

A point re the spare tyre - when Nick borrows the car Casey mentions where the spare is.

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1. Nick wants to retire as Casey does - he wants to get married he says. Ecven if that is a lie, he had to do this job in Houston anyway (stealing drugs from the Rastafarians and money from the police). He may have thought he could do the job, get away and then drop in on Casey for old times' sake.

2. Billy Hill says that Nick tried to double cross him and Dallas. Ie - they had just stolen the money from the cops at the beginning of the film when they go into the petrol station shop. That's when you see the metal case full of money. Presumably after this Nick stole all the money for himself and did a runner. Billy Hill and Dallas therefore pursued him. The money Nick steals and Casey eventually gets was NOT from the Ballpean drugs scene. It's a different lot of money. It was simply simply the metal case Nick has full of Heroin which reminds Casey of the last ever job he did with Nick, the Ballpean job, which also involved a metal case full of drugs.

3. Nick had "a few errands to run". Presumably that meant trying to kill the cops looking for him I suspect. Yous see this when Casey makes a phone call to him about Nick's having heroin, and Nick hangs up the phone and pulls out a gun. However, Nick does kill a few cops according to Detective Kasarov, but the rest of the cops shoot him (you see he's bleeding heavily during his last phone call to Casey) and then later behead him (Kasarov gives Casey Nick's head in a bag).

4/5. This is made pretty obvious. When Kasarov comes into the house, he gives Casey a BMW key - the one to Casey's car that Nick had earlier borrowed. How he got the car there - loads of ways. Maybe he got it there by tow truck. Maybe he drove it there himself. Not really important. How does he leave? Maybe there's another cop car outside that escorted him that he leaves in. Maybe he walks back. Hell, maybe he gets the bus. Again, that's not important.

Regards what Nick did on his final day - it's never clear. Nick had the heroin AND the money ALREADY before he visits casey. We know this because when Billy Hill and Dallas turn up, they tell Casey they want the heroin but he can keep the money. Presumably Nick on his last day tried to kill police searching for him when he, dallas and billy had stolen their money (i suspect they did the same as they did to Ballpean, tried to sell the heroin to the cops, then went back on the deal, killed the cops and ran with the drugs and the cops' money).

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Can I ask just one question of my own - how did Dallas manage to tie Casey up without him fighting and struggling?

The greatest trick the Devil has ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist!

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