Embarrassing. Put me to sleep. Yeah right, Irish spies! Competing with Russia.... hahahahaha! Oh my GOD this was so bad!
shareoh, you know what else guys? Glengarry Glen Ross was crap too, might as well throw that one in there since David Mamet did that too.
Jesus sum people are easily amused!
ItsTheAngelMan,
You are clueless.
Okay, tell me how? What clues am I missing?
You are the clueless one my easily amused "friend".
You have missed all the subtlety of this film. The protagonist (Sam; Robert De Niro) uses his intellect to solve problems. It is a thinking man's action film.
The cast is excellent (De Niro, Jean Reno, Stellan Skarsgard, Natascha McElhone, Sean Bean, Jonathan Pryce). The buddy chemistry between De Niro and Reno is one of the best duo's caught on film. Both quiet professionals trying to complete a job.
De Niro's ambush at the hotel, involving the bell hop, is brilliant. Solved that problem with his mind and no one even knew he was there.
The film is not about the IRA vs. the Russians. It is about cold warriors, whose skill's have become obsolete to their governments, who have to hire themselves out as mercenaries to make a buck. The title of the film is Ronin. In medieval Japan, a Ronin was a master-less samurai. The characters in this film are modern day Ronin. Even the IRA characters are rogue, abandoned by the rest of the IRA who now are seeking peace with the UK.
The Russians are Russian mobsters (most of them probably former KGB) who are secretly working on behalf of the Russian government to retrieve the case.
What is in the case? Something so dangerous that US government is willing to let scores of french civilians die to secure it.
So yes, ItsTheAngelMan, you have missed a great deal in this film. It is brilliant. But perhaps the next Expendables movie will be more to your liking.
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And of course it's a "thinking man's film".
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ronin_(film)#External_links
Every "thinking man's film" has links like that on its wikipedia article! hahaha
I decided to delete my hilarious insults of you cause you suddenly went quiet, that means you were reporting me. I dont wanna have all my posts deleted just cause u cant take someone calling this crappy movie for what it is.
Folks like me having to make accomodations for "people" like you? it's a human tragedy on the scale of the Holocaust.
Congratulations on being the wittiest man of 2008 though
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you should really be in comedy, dude! seriously!
I have a job to pay my bills. Can't hang out on moviechat.org all day.
Have a nice life.
Whether a film is good or bad is a subjective opinion and yours to make. But your justifications you've provided thus far as to why you think it's a bad film haven't been objectively compelling.
It doesn't even sound like you understood the plot if you think it was about IRA vs Russia.
There was only one Russian, the computer geek, in De Niro's crew. And the IRA were some fucking badass, ruthless motherfuckers in their day.
shareThey still are!
shareI don't doubt it.
It's just that this flick was made in 1998, the year of the Belfast peace agreement; and the beginning of the transition of IRA from terrorists to politicians. Prior to that it was IRA (and PLO) who were thought of as the preeminent terrorists in the world. I assume the OP is utterly ignorant of this history to so dismissively refer to them "Irish spies".
Nonsense. You are wrong to the infinite power and then some. Your sentence - to find out the color of the boat house at Hereford.
shareRight...and if this was actually a "classy" movie he would have taken 2 seconds to found out how Hereford was actually pronounced......
DORK. Did you see the tomato soup Frankenheimer used as blood, btw? That was hilarious! OMG it was so out of date I'm surprised he didn't try using The Monkees as the soundtrack! HAHAHAH!
Prepare to face the ultimate punishment - you must determine the total number of bullets fired in Ronin while juggling three full cups of coffee.
shareaaw look, baby thinks it's funny.
shareMy view is that this was a good film. It is one of the few in which I have liked de Niro's performance. The rest of the cast is good as well, especially Jean Reno.
The action was well-done, and the car chase is one of the best I have seen.
My opinion of Ronin seems to be a lot higher than yours, but in the final analysis, opinions of films are just that: opinions. Our like or dislike of a particular film should not be used as the basis for judging others.
I later found out a lot of real car stunts were used instead of CGI. Maybe that is why the movie has a certain "something" about it.
shareThe movie is never super specific about the origin of the people involved in the hunt for the case.
It doesn't seem entirely out of line that elements of the IRA, KGB, etc, could be competing for some kind of intelligence item.