Is it supposed to be vague?
Even the broken heart explanation is a bit vague.
Did Anakin kill her (by choking her) as some self fulfilling prophesy. As in you can't change fate. By killing her in doing everything in his power to save her.
Was it all constructed and controlled by Palpatine. As in the Wickerman.
Obi Wan and Yoda didn't spend much time trying to work it out.
- What killed her was Lucas´inept writing.
- She died as a result of Lucas needing to foist a tragic ending on the movie, to create a synthetic dispair, in spite of how much sense this made.
She died because Lucas needed her dead for continuity purposes with the original trilogy, and his poor writting didn´t allowed him to come up with a better story.
all 4 theories are crap
1. Anakin choked her. well, Anakin didn´t choked her that hard, In other movies and tv series people gets choked a lot more hard, and the survive, it is a reenactment I know, but I´m talking about Law and Order and CSI, which are grounded in reality
2. She dies in childbirth. Something completely impossible in the star wars galaxy, the treatment for that must cost 5 dollars and must be available in every single drug store, but somehow in the movie, there is no cure or treatment AT ALL.
3. She lost the will to live. Also crap, it this were true, people would not need to commit suicide.
4. In the book, it says that she has lethal damage to his throat, first, this contradicts the movie, where the doctor clearly says she is perfectly fine, second, even in Earth there are treatments if the upper respiratory track is block or damaged.
The stupid have one thing in common.They alter the facts to fit their views not the other way
3 this in is a diffrent universe to human there may just be diffrent and they can die of a broken heart.
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3 this in is a diffrent universe to human there may just be diffrent and they can die of a broken heart.
It a bad line yes but it's a diffrent universe we don't know how the humans in that universe is diffrent then ours.
shareCheck my link http://www.retrozap.com/padme-didnt-die-of-a-broken-heart/
Its a very interesting explanation for what happened that makes perfect sense. Technically, Padme actually lost her free will to live.
Problem is George's writing is so bad that people don't bother to read between the lines and analyze what is happening. I thought it was a poor explanation for the longest time, but it's just a case of a droid not knowing *beep*
It's actually not just something that could happen in an alternate universe. There has been numerous accounts of people (mostly old, married couples), seemingly losing their will to live, and then suddenly, without warning or previously recorded health related issues, to simply give up on living and die. Will is a powerful thing indeed, perhaps even moreso than we care to realize as individuals.
shareIt's actually not just something that could happen in an alternate universe. There has been numerous accounts of people (mostly old, married couples), seemingly losing their will to live, and then suddenly, without warning or previously recorded health related issues, to simply give up on living and die. Will is a powerful thing indeed, perhaps even moreso than we care to realize as individuals.
I wasn't oversimplifying anything really, I merely kept it short.
To further add to the discussion, I do not think that Padme died solely from a broken heart. I believe that it was a factor, yes, but not the entire reason. She obviously died due to complications from childbirth. I don't know why it's so hard for some people to grasp the concept of maternal mortality in this movie, but it's actually not as uncommon (even now) as one would think in this day and age. Anakin's visions always showed Padme dying during childbirth, and numerous factors could've contributed to this, including a "broken heart".
People are just taking her words too literally "Anakin, you're breaking my heart": billions of people get their hearts broken during their lifetime, without it increasing one's mortality rate.
To further add to the discussion, I do not think that Padme died solely from a broken heart. I believe that it was a factor, yes, but not the entire reason. She obviously died due to complications from childbirth. I don't know why it's so hard for some people to grasp the concept of maternal mortality in this movie, but it's actually not as uncommon (even now) as one would think in this day and age. Anakin's visions always showed Padme dying during childbirth, and numerous factors could've contributed to this, including a "broken heart".
Ah, I didn't recall that. It's been several years since I last saw the movie. Regardless, I stand by what I said, I don't believe it to be the only factor contributing to her death.
shareSo, you are standing by what you said because of....?. You say it was childbirth = but the movie removes that possibility and there was no other explanation besides he will.
shareQuoting one out of context is not a very productive way of initiating an argument. I have already said everything I have to say about the matter, and I do not like repeating myself to people who either intentionally or unintentionally, chooses to ignore most of my words, because it's the easiest way to argue with an opposition.
So this will be my last post in this thread. Interpret whatever you want to interpret and leave out the rest which doesn't fit your agenda, I will not indulge in an obvious attempt at trolling. Life is too short for such pointless debacles, and my intentions for coming here was not to initiate anger fueled debates. I stand by what I said, for reasons that clearly went over your head, even if I've more than expressed my views thoroughly and repeatedly in my two previous posts.
I will say this however: having seen the movie just yesterday, it seems pretty obvious to me what she died of. But that's the beauty about art, isn't it? Each individual are free to interpret art in their own way, free of outsider influence, or not. That's why you can have debates about what you saw with others, although the Internet is rarely a constructive playground for such things, because people can easily be carried away and take things all too personal. I realize that now, and it was probably a mistake coming here in the first place, on IMDb of all places.
So in closing, I wish you all a good day and a good weekend when it comes to that, and know that this is the end for me here.
I know you said you won't respond, but damn, ending it here as if you've had some final statement on the matter would be irritating.
How did he quote (or more accurately paraphrase) you out of context? From your earlier response to me, where I provided firm proof from in the movie (which the writer/director put in their consciously for a specific reason) that shows Padme did not die do to complications from childbirth, that despite all their marvelous tech they couldn't explain it with anything other than "she's lost the will to live" (we'll ignore what that says about the quality of Padme as a person when she has newborn children on the way). You responded by basically saying that was interesting but this evidence (a statement consciously put in the film by George Lucas) didn't alter your opinion because...well you never gave a reason beyond that's just what you want to believe. So lrdcharlton's comment is a pretty fair assessment there IMO. He's not trolling, he's asking a legitimate question about your rationale for your belief.
Yes, things being open to interpretation can be wonderful, but that's really not the case here when the movie undermines it completely. At this point, your theory about her is little more than fan-fiction and contradicts the movie itself.
I'm sorry but dying of a broken heart does not fit in a universe like this at all, where most people die by getting blown up or blasted or sliced by light sabers. Something like that is better fit for a Shakespearean tragedy or even an old wives tale. George Lucas is still to blame.
shareIt turned something that was supposed to be a tragedy into a sappy borderline girly fairytale. It would have been deeper and and even more tragic if Anakin was directly the cause of her death instead of a women who was supposed to be strong just giving up despite just having birthed two children. They could have done a number of other ways to depict Padme's demise, but the all knowing Lucas thought he knew his fan base.
shareI love that skit!
Check my link http://www.retrozap.com/padme-didnt-die-of-a-broken-heart/
Its a very interesting explanation for what happened that makes perfect sense. Technically, Padme actually lost her free will to live.
A lazy screenwriter/director with a high opinion of himself and his "artistry" is what killed her.
shareAfter Anakin force choke Padme right in front of Obi-Wan, Anakin did not know that the Sith, which implanted in his mind, transferred into Padme's mind during the force choke incident.
After the Dark Side grew and the Darth Vader suit was officially completed at the same time. The Sith, inside Padme's mind, completely destroyed her brain resulting as her death along the way.
Interesting interpretation.
shareThere is a fan who has an excellent theory that makes complete sense. Read part 2 as well.
http://www.retrozap.com/padme-didnt-die-of-a-broken-heart/
He pretty much details that palpatine planned Padmes death and transferred her living force to anakin and that is why she dies at the same time vader's suit is complete.
Palpatine was a master schemer. It is a shame that George's bad writing gets in the way of people thinking more about this scene, because it seems obvious to me now.
She lost the will to live... She died of a broken heart. It is a rare occurrence. But despite what other posters have said (and their suggestions that it is ridiculous), it is possible! Don't believe me. Research the story of ex-NFL quarterback Doug Flutie. Read up on how his parents died! Then ask him if someone can't die of a broken heart!
"There I go waxing philosophical again!... Shoot me before I start talking in riddles!"
So a woman who had just had two children decided that life wasn't worth living because her boyfriend went all evil.
That makes her kind of a selfish bitch, you know.
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If I could stop a rapist from raping a child I would. That's the difference between me and god.
So a woman who had just had two children decided that life wasn't worth living because her boyfriend went all evil.
Actually you are somewhat wrong. A woman who expiriences the stuff that Padme did would will herself to live for the safety of her newborn children. As a mother protecting her children, whatever Anakin did would not matter. Lastly, who says the choke was near fatal?
shareActually you are somewhat wrong. A woman who expiriences the stuff that Padme did would will herself to live for the safety of her newborn children. As a mother protecting her children, whatever Anakin did would not matter.
who says the choke was near fatal?
Broken heart
She watched Attack Of The Clones.
Bad writing... there was no clear reason why Padme died only to make sure she wasn't around for Classic Trilogy events.
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