Can you explain to me why people hate this movie so much? This movie obviously wasn't made for people who like "Downton Abbey" or "Desperate Housewives", this movie was made for people who like "Godzilla" movies (and destruction-monster movies in general). So, what exactly did they expect to see? Ok, I agree, Mathew Broderick wasn't the perfect choice for the leading role. And? What else? What, they wanted to see more monsters? Ok, there weren't, it was just Godzilla fighting soldiers, air-crafts, helicopters and stuff. That was their problem? They didn't like how Godzilla looked? How he fights? What?
I have seen only a couple of the old Japanese Godzilla movies, and from what I remember, is that they were just ridiculous. I mean, a man in a costume plays Godzilla, and he trows paper rocks to another monster, and Godzilla gets excited and starts...dancing! Is this what hardcore fans expected to see in this movie? What was the huge major difference with the recent and more "accepted" movie, besides more monsters?
The most vocal body of people who hate this movie are those who like the original Japanese film series. The qualities you described (paper rocks, dancing monsters) only applied to a handful of the original movies. A good many of them, such as the 1954 original and the 1984 reboot as well as some of the more recent entries, were more serious in tone. Fans weren't happy with seeing the recreation of their favorite monster hiding from the military and being killed by conventional weaponry. It'd be like if they made a Superman movie where he called the cops instead of fighting the criminals and ended up being killed by a guy holding a switchblade knife. The general audience wouldn't care, but the Superman fans would be infuriated. Basically, the fans hated it because it took a beloved pop culture character and changed it radically.
As for the rest of the audience, they were more indifferent than infuriated. That's the general reaction to this day. Godzilla 1998 has a sizable fan base (enough to be called a cult classic), but most of the world has forgotten it. That's the case with most of Roland Emmerich's movies and most Hollywood blockbusters. They are hyped up by a brilliant ad campaign, they make a lot of noise and money when they come out in theaters, and then that's it. Except for "Stargate" and "Independence Day" that's been the case for pretty much everything he's done. Nobody in the general public really talks about "10,000 BC" or "2012" or "The Patriot" or "The Day After Tomorrow" anymore.
Yes, it's true what you say about Emmerich, but I think that that applies fthe last years for most directors and blockbusters. They're instant hits, and that's it. People go and see it for 1 month, and talk and fight about it, and then another blockbuster comes and they forget about it. Like last year's "G.I.Joe: Retaliation". Who remembers it now?
I would add "Stargate" in the list of Emmerich's forgotten movies. I guess that only the fans of the TV series remember it (or care about it). Ask anyone younger than 25 years old if he has seen, or even knows the movie. "Independence Day" was his only really big movie, which defined the blockbusters to come.
As for "Godzilla", you made clear to me that only the hardcore fans hate it so much. I really don't care about hardcore fans of anything, for the simple reason that they're fanatic, and don't think objectively. Sure, I know nothing about Godzilla. I saw the movie, and I liked it. It showed me what I paid the ticket to see: a giant lizard destroying a city. I don't have to have seen the previous 20 or so "Godzilla" movies to judge if this movie was satisfying or not. Anyway, sure, there have been some bad blockbusters the last 2 decades, where it's very clear that they just didn't work ("John Carter" for example, how could anyone think that this movie would make money?), but I think "Godzilla" received a very unfair hate.
You are right that it has received unfair hate, and I say this as someone who is only a semi-fan of this movie. Sometimes when this comes on TV, I happily watch it from the opening credits up through the helicopter chase scene, and then I switch channels and come back to watch the last ten minutes. The first act and the finale are a lot of fun for me. It's all of that boring stuff in the middle with the love story and the baby monsters that loses my interest. For me, as someone who admires a great many of the original Japanese films, it's one of those in-the-middle movies. Not good, not terrible, in the middle.
It's not even Emmerich's worst. For me, that's "Stargate." (I'm under 25, by the way, and I've seen that film.) That was insufferably bad. You discover a way of traveling to the other side of the universe. Sounds exciting. What are you going to see? What's it going to be like? What are you going to find there? The movie's answer: a big, boring desert with a bunch of rag-wearing idiots and one of the most laughable villains in cinema history.
"Stargate" is outdated now. If you had watched it back then, you might have liked it. Emmerich's worst movie ever is "White House Down".
I've also seen 2 of his earliest movies, "Joey" (nothing to do with the "Friends" character! :p) and "Moon 44". I vaguely remember the first one, but "Moon 44" was a pretty enjoyable sci-fi b-movie. Or maybe, sci-fi c-movie. It reminded me the good old days of VHS action flicks.
"Anonymous" was a huge and positive surprise, and I'm glad he made a movie about Stonewall now. Well, after all, he's gay! (And I found out about it only recently, and it surprised me big time...). It's nice to see blockbuster directors doing something different for a change. Funny, IMDB says that he's "attached" to "Stonewall", like it's not 100% sure if he's gonna do it, but it also says that it's in post-production! How can he be just attached to a movie that it's already finished?? :p
I am not trying to be a troll. I grew up on Godzilla movies and I even like this one. I am also into history and historical films so I do like Dowton Abby too.
Can you explain to me why people hate this movie so much?
The title of the movie was 'Godzilla', but ABSOLUTELY nothing about the film was 'Godzilla'. It was popcorn fluff masquerading as 'Godzilla' to lure people into the theaters. The hatred stems from disappointment. We bought tickets expecting 'Godzilla' and got a supreme pile of useless, meaningless crap instead. Same thing happened with 'Resident Evil', which is why so many hate those ****ty films. If you are going to name your movie after a well established, and much beloved character, you'd better respect that character. GINO did not. That's the explanation.
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To put it simply, Tim Burton took a series of graphically violent trading cards depicting an invasion by skull faced martians and turned it into a kiddified spoof of alien invasion films.
Oh. Well, considering the mediocre reviews and mixed opinions, maybe he shouldn't have. Just like GINO. Terrible idea. Apparently the movie made virtually no profit. But I must ask, what is your point? GINO still sucked. But it made money because people wanted to see Godzilla. They didn't get to, but they'd already paid their money. That's why people hate that movie. That's also why there was never a sequel. Nobody was going to fall for that bull**** move again.
Godzilla 2014 fans are idiots who prefer the look of a man in a fat suit
Godzilla 98 looks better than a man in a fat suit any day!
this 2014 disaster looked like a man in a fat rubber suit!
this Godzilla looks like a REAL lizard and not a man in a fat rubber suit like Godzooky 2014.
Godzilla 2014 SUCKED in every way and looked like a man in a fat rubber suit.
the 2014 version still looks like a man in a fat suit!
The 98 film is a ZILLION times better than this garbage where Godzilla still looks like a man in a fat suit!
Godzilla 98 looks real while the "original" Godzilla still looks like a man in a fat suit!
unlike the 2014 version where he was mostly absent...and looked like a fat man in a suit!
Believe it or not, these quotes are since January of this year. One can only guess how many times you've made the 'fat suit' comment since last May. You are one troubled individual, megafauna.
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Indeed. What's with that? I've never seen anybody try to defend such a terrible movie with such great vigor. Nothing wrong with liking bad movies. There's some bad movies that I enjoy more than most. But I would never getting into routine pissing matches with others over their merits. That's just dumb.
Sometimes I wonder if our friend fauny ever even saw a REAL Godzilla movie.
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Sure, expressing your opinion about something (good or bad) is one thing, but megafool repeats himself in post after post. Just look at some of his rants about religion, or Jimmy Fallon, or Dallas 2012. I used to find them amusing, now they're just embarrassing.
It's quite possible that he (or she, I don't know) is experiencing the early signs of dementia.
Now, I expect to get a reply something like "NO ben, it is YOU who is demented! EVERYONE knows the new Godzilla..."
There were a few Godzilla films that would surely rank among the worst movies of all times. But every one of them had more heart and more style than that piece of crap '98 thing.
That being said, even you could not deny the 1954 film its rightful status as a classic piece of cinema. That guy in the suit told a FAR better story than that CGI-GINO thing EVER could.
There is a guy on You Tube making reviews about video games, movies, and other things. He's a huge Godzilla fan, and has watched all the Godzilla movies, and made short reviews for each one of them. I have watched entirely only a couple of the old Japanese movies, I don't remember much, but anyway, I watched some of this guy's reviews, which are accompanied by the movies' full trailers. I'll take an example, "Godzilla's Revenge". https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fe9v1jsN7Tg&index=10&list=PL90 ECE0E5578B6A60 I don't have to watch the whole movie. This review and trailer cover me 100%. I'm sure that you reckon this movie as "surely rank among the worst movies of all times", as you say. But still, you say that every one of them, so even this one, has more heart and STYLE than the '98 piece of crap thing. So, if you, and every other hardcore Godzilla fan say that this movie is better than Godzilla '98, then we'll never be able to communicate. We're talking about different movie mentality here. For me, Godzilla '98, was at the worst case, a mediocre disaster movie. "Godzilla's Revenge" is an ultimate ridiculous cheap movie for kids of that era (because of course, no kid would ever watch this now...). And someone could very easily say that it's trash, but I don't want to be very offending. And that's the difference.
In a nutshell, we agree on something. There is no comparison between Godzilla '98 and Godzilla '14 with most (if not all) the old Japanese movies. It's like comparing "Jurassic Park" with "The Land Before Time" (both good movies, by the way).
And closing, I haven't seen the first 1954 Godzilla movie, but I'm sure it will be good (as a movie, because that's what I care about, to be a good movie above all), a classic, easily comparable to the Ray Harryhausen American monster movies, and aesthetically unrelated to the countless subsequently Japanese sequels.
Yeah. That's James Rolfe. Cinemassacre. AVGN. James and Mike Monday's and all that. He's a big Godzilla fan, and his disdain and disappointment with the '98 Godzilla film comes across loud and clear.
'Godzilla's Revenge' was not a good movie. But it did have some campy qualities that make it memorable. A bit of spark. Style. Uniqueness. GINO had none of that. It was CGI crap with no soul. There are intangible qualities in it that are difficult to put into words, but are apparent to those watching the film. Especially kids. Many have a nostalgic love for Godzilla's Revenge, while still acknowledging its many flaws.
Might be the best word to describe the difference between films like Godzilla's Revenge and GINO. A campy film can be bad, and still be loved. GINO was just bad, with no redeeming qualities. It was a cheap, poorly crafted Jurassic Park ripoff that took NOTHING from Godzilla except for the name, and that was purely for marquee value. It got Godzilla fans really excited, and then let them down horribly.
To quote James Rolfe "It's not a real Godzilla movie".
Anyway. Check out the 'Godzillathon' reviews James did a few years back. Fun to watch in and of themselves, and an interesting look at REAL Godzilla films from an honest fan.
"Check out the 'Godzillathon' reviews James did a few years back."
I have, dude. I sent you one of them in the previous message! :p
You know what? I'm not a Godzilla fan. So, I guess my opinion doesn't really matter. I just enjoyed both American versions as fun movies. And besides the 1954 movie, I really doubt I'll watch anything else. I have only one life, you know, and I have to spend time with care! :p
Many people on this board prefer the 98 Godzilla because he looks like a real monster and not a man in a fat rubber suit!
No it didn't. It looked like a computer generated, non-real, popcorn critter. The guy in the suit was FAR more effective. When combined with excellent set pieces and fantastic camera work, the original 1954 Godzilla looked terrifying. Music was very effective as well. Gino had none of that good stuff. It was just crap.
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How did you figure out that he replied to me, Ben? Which he did actually, and got me confused! :p I still don't understand though what he meant with "Godzilla 2014 fans are idiots who prefer the look of a man in a fat suit as opposed to a REAL looking monster like in Godzilla 98!". What does he mean when he says "Godzilla 2014", the new movie? But Godzilla looks like a real looking monster in BOTH movies, no matter if people hate the American versions or not. Although I'm a guy who's kind of tired of all these CGI effects in general, and prefer old school practical effects ("E.T.", "Gremlins", etc.), but I can't say that the old Japanese Godzilla effects and costumes are successful...
How did you figure out that he replied to me, Ben?
Two ways: one, how the replies line up in the thread; two, I get a notification when someone responds to me.
As for Godzilla 2014...yeah, he means the new movie. Go to that board and you'll see how often megamouth posted the same thing there, too. When someone like him has an opinion, it's like listening to an endless loop.
He's on ignore now, so I won't be reading his annoying words anymore.
"Godzilla 2014 fans are idiots who prefer the look of a man in a fat suit as opposed to a REAL looking monster like in Godzilla 98!"
Your sentence doesn't make sense. You say that the new Godzilla movie fans prefer a man in a suit as opposed to a CGI Godzilla? But...it was a CGI Godzilla in the new movie! So, how are they fans of it?
"It just shows "original" Godzilla fans are MORONS living in the 1950s!"
No fan is a moron. If some people prefer the old Godzilla movies, it's respectful. As it's respectful people who prefer the CGI versions. The morons are the obsessed fans of any kind who don't accept a different opinion.
"To put it simply, Tim Burton took a series of graphically violent trading cards depicting an invasion by skull faced martians and turned it into a kiddified spoof of alien invasion films."
First, the movie was fun. Second, I didn't know/remember it was based on those cards, and I don't care, because like I said, the movie was fun. What would you think of the movie if you never heard of the existence of those cards?
This movie fails miserably as a Godzilla film as it has nothing to do with Godzilla. This movie fails miserably as a giant monster movie as the giant monster is a pussy that does nothing but run away from the military.
It's one of the worst movies ever made and an insult to any fan of Godzilla or giant monster movies.
This movie fails miserably as a Godzilla film as it has nothing to do with Godzilla. This movie fails miserably as a giant monster movie as the giant monster is a pussy that does nothing but run away from the military.
What did you want him to do? Throw rocks to enemies and then joyfully dance, like in the Japanese versions? It's a scared animal. Scared animals run and cause havoc.
It's one of the worst movies ever made and an insult to any fan of Godzilla or giant monster movies.
I strongly believe that there are at least 1,000 movies out there worst than this.
I don't judge any hardcore fan who was disappointed with this movie. But all this hate, calling it "one of the worst movies ever made", is somehow overreacting, in my opinion. It was a pop-corn movie like all the others. The "Transformers" movies, yes, they're terrible, especially 3 and 4, because it's all mindless bombardment of visual and sound effects, with ridiculous plot, annoying characters, and cheesy dialogues. I didn't see any of this in "Godzilla". My only objection was Broderick, who can't fit in a blockbuster movie, he has a "rom-com" face. If the main character was someone "stronger", it would work better. reply share
It's a scared animal. Scared animals run and cause havoc.
It wouldn't be Godzilla anymore,then, if it runs away. Fans aren't necessarily expecting Godzilla to throw rocks or dance (and that only appears in one movie), but they at least want a Godzilla that fights back, whether it's the army or another giant monster. That's one thing the originals films are consistent on.
Godzilla is a unique monster with a specific behavior and characteristics, such as his trademark "atomic breath," which the monster in this movie lacks (yes, there's a scene where the monster seems to breath fire, but if you look closely at that scene, the fire is actually coming from the burning cars in front of the monster and not his mouth). Also, the monster in this movie is easily killed by missiles. In all the original films, Godzilla is a monster that cannot be killed by normal weapons(in the original film from 1954, it's the new, dangerous invention of a scientist that finally kills Godzilla, and it cost the scientist's life). This is really going back to what TheUnknown837-1 said about making Superman call the cops instead of fighting criminals and having him die from a switchblade.
This movie essentially created a new monster, which I think isn't too bad of a monster and is in fact actually cool on its own, but it only only looks different from the original, it acts different from the original and lacks the abilities that make Godzilla what he is. Godzilla is an established character with an established lore. Any adaptation of something will have to follow its source material faithfully, especially if there's a large fanbase for it. You know that if they make a new Batman movie, one that has nothing to do with the continuity of the previous films, it will still keep Batman's trademarks like his cape, cowl, utility belt, and bat symbol, because 70+ years of comics, movies, cartoons, etc. have established that that's what makes Batman who and what he is.
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"Can you explain to me why people hate this movie so much? This movie obviously wasn't made for people who like "Downton Abbey" or "Desperate Housewives", this movie was made for people who like "Godzilla" movies (and destruction-monster movies in general). So, what exactly did they expect to see? Ok, I agree, Mathew Broderick wasn't the perfect choice for the leading role. And? What else? What, they wanted to see more monsters? Ok, there weren't, it was just Godzilla fighting soldiers, air-crafts, helicopters and stuff. That was their problem? They didn't like how Godzilla looked? How he fights? What?"
You wanna know the REAL story why this movie disappointed at the box-office? The makers of the movie (Devlin-Emmerich) got into a fight with Speilberg when they released the first teaser trailer for 'Godzilla' which showed a huge foot stomping on a T-Rex skeleton in a museum (an obvious dig at 'Jurassic Park 2: The Lost World' which was released the previous year). Then they cast rotund actor Michael Lerner as Mayor Ebert in the movie while his sidekick is another actor named Gene (another dig at famous critics Siskel and Ebert, which was a TERRIBLE move that angered most film critics in the US - thereby ensuring that most critics panned the movie out of spite) so in two moves, Emmerich managed to tick off both his seniors in Hollywood AND the film critics as well. Nice.
The design of the monster was another sticking point: People were used to a guy in a fat suit, and what they got was something radically different. The smaller size of the monster was critiqued: It was too small when compared to previous incarnations. The funny thing is: If you watch the action sequences and understand the basic plot as to WHY 'zilla came to New York in the first place, the design makes perfect sense: The Monster wants to hide/build a nest and the tall buildings allows it to remain hidden from a distance. Plus most of the action sequences (which were better and more thrilling than most of the previous 'zilla movies) would NEVER have worked with a bigger monster.
Plus, the story went through a large number of re-writes. Initially Godzilla was the GOOD guy and had to do battle with another monster to SAVE New York - but the FX needed to render the second beast would have pushed the budget past the 150 Million mark (which the studio didn't want to spend - Godzilla '98 was already over budget by 30 Million when the initial budget was 100 Million) so re-writes were the order of the day. They also shoe-horned a love interest to attract females, which explains why the two leads were so awkward with each other. The only character that wasn't affected by the re-writes was Jean Reno's - which is why he was good while the others sucked.
Another reason why the film did badly was that the previous year, "The Lost World" was released. That was a horrible movie that disappointed a lot of people, and the sight of little baby Godzillas chasing the heroes down narrow stairways and office lanes too closely resembled the Raptors chasing the heroes down narrow corridors in the previous movie. People felt that they were watching a re-tread of the previous film instead of a true-blue Godzilla flick - which resulted in ZERO repeat viewings (this explains why the movie sank like a stone).
But the MAIN reason why the movie didn't do as well (which nobody talks about openly) is that it was a co-production between Japan and The USA - and the US movie industry is paranoid about NOT letting any movie which has foreign money in it do well at the box-office. The Hollywood Studios DO NOT want any competition at the domestic box office. That's why so many movies from (non-european) countries with strong domestic output get side-lined, edited to an unrecogizable mess, shafted to limited release or are left to die a natural death on a crowded weekend. Prime examples of these are Bulletproof Monk, Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within and the DragonBall movie. A more recent example is 47 Ronin which was shafted even before it's release and Seventh Son which got zero publicity and a limited theater release despite making oodles of moolah overseas - probably because both of them were foreign co-productions which had the bulk of their funding overseas while their Hollywood partners receive a limited stream of the revenue. And there you have it.
Don't worry about it mate. You'll only hear the diehard Godzilla fans say it's one of the worst films ever. You know the guys who are obsessed with men in rubber suits using power ranger fighting styles to battle giant cyborg chickens controlled by space monkeys. lol. Them and film snobs hate it, but to the average Joe like you and me it's actually a pretty decent disaster movie. A flawed one at that, yes. But a lot of people you'll see on the street actually don't mind it. You only hear of the extreme hate because it's the Internet and raging film nerds have nothing better to do than to go the Internet and hurl abuse at a movie or call you retarded because you like a film they don't. It's pathetic. But that's the Internet for you lol.
Or you'll actually hear people, "average jokes, mate" say it's a *beep* movie and only for those with the mentality of a four-year-old. Grow up and wake up. It sucks, and most people will say it sucks.
The makers of the movie (Devlin-Emmerich) got into a fight with Speilberg when they released the first teaser trailer for 'Godzilla' which showed a huge foot stomping on a T-Rex skeleton in a museum (an obvious dig at 'Jurassic Park 2: The Lost World' which was released the previous year).
Me too, when I first saw that teaser trailer back then, my mind went immediately to the very fresh "The Lost World". So what? They were different movies. I don't know if it was an obvious hint to "The Lost World", but I can see it as irrelevant, it's just like saying "forget about T-Rex, I'm Godzilla, and I'm bigger". You know, T-Rex existed in movies (and in reality, of course!) even before "Jurassic Park". "Godzilla" coming out a year after "The Lost World" was a coincidence. It would come out anyway. No? Did Emmerich and Devlin really get into a fight with Spielberg about this?? As a fact??
And I think that that fuss with the Ebert-Siskel reference was exaggerating. I found it harmlessly funny actually. It was a fact that they weren't big fans of blockbusters like this, so they just put it as an inside joke. And the actors resembling to them made it even funnier! http://media.baselineresearch.com/images/224821/224821_full.jpg I don't understand why some people take some things so seriously...
"The design of the monster was another sticking point: People were used to a guy in a fat suit, and what they got was something radically different. The smaller size of the monster was critiqued: It was too small when compared to previous incarnations. The funny thing is: If you watch the action sequences and understand the basic plot as to WHY 'zilla came to New York in the first place, the design makes perfect sense: The Monster wants to hide/build a nest and the tall buildings allows it to remain hidden from a distance. Plus most of the action sequences (which were better and more thrilling than most of the previous 'zilla movies) would NEVER have worked with a bigger monster."
I don't understand why people say that Godzilla was small in this movie. He wasn't small! He certainly looked bigger than the man in the suit Japanese versions! The new Godzilla looks significantly bigger, but what does it matter anyway? They were both big. Size doesn't matter! (Unlike what the poster of the '98 movie says!) But reading your paragraph, I understand that you justify Godzilla's size, and you say that this was the right choice. No?
"But the MAIN reason why the movie didn't do as well (which nobody talks about openly) is that it was a co-production between Japan and The USA - and the US movie industry is paranoid about NOT letting any movie which has foreign money in it do well at the box-office. The Hollywood Studios DO NOT want any competition at the domestic box office."
So...I'm a head of a big Hollywood studio...I make a movie with Japan co-producing it...I put a lot of money...and I want it to fail. So, what you're basically saying, is that the Columbia-TriStar guys were retarded. Right?
And anyway, the question wasn't why this movie failed at the box office. Many good movies fail at the box office for many reasons. The question was why all that hate. I think I hadn't seen a Godzilla movie in my life before I saw Emmerich's movie. And I had a great time. I saw a huge monster destroying a city, that's what I paid for. It wasn't a masterpiece, and it had its flaws, like Broderick (nothing wrong with him, he's just not for blockbusters), but I can't think of myself walking out of the theater saying "oh, what a terrible movie, I wasted my money!". Have you seen "Transformers 3 and 4"? THESE are terrible movies... And they did awesome at the box office. That's life.
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"And I think that that fuss with the Ebert-Siskel reference was exaggerating. I found it harmlessly funny actually. It was a fact that they weren't big fans of blockbusters like this, so they just put it as an inside joke. And the actors resembling to them made it even funnier! http://media.baselineresearch.com/images/224821/224821_full.jpg I don't understand why some people take some things so seriously..."
Actually both Siskel and Ebert have been vocally supportive of blockbusters that have good scripts - it's just the brainless ones that irk them. At the time their show was the best known and most watched movie review show in the US so taking a pop at them was a cheap and dumb move - it alienated the reviewers who critique your movies and gave the perception that Roland Emmerich had gotten a bit too big for his boots.
"But reading your paragraph, I understand that you justify Godzilla's size, and you say that this was the right choice. No?"
Yes. The original Godzilla (which towered over skyscrapers) was a mutated dinosaur. By contrast, 'Zilla '98 was an iguana which was changed due to exposure to atomic radiation - it would have been ridiculous to make him bigger.
"So...I'm a head of a big Hollywood studio...I make a movie with Japan co-producing it...I put a lot of money...and I want it to fail. So, what you're basically saying, is that the Columbia-TriStar guys were retarded. Right?"
Groan. No dude, At the time Columbia-TriStar was owned by Sony (which it still is) and Sony wanted to develop some of their Japanese properties into viable international blockbusters. The OTHER companies (which weren't owned by foreign investors) didn't want that to happen - so they launched a smear campaign against Sony Pictures.
P.S. Bizarre as it may seem, there ARE cases of studios wanting their own product to fail. For example, if a new studio head arrives, the first thing he does is dump the previous studio head's product. Case in point being Adam Fogelson the head at Universal Pictures, who greenlighted '47 Ronin' which cost 175 million to produce. After Adam was pushed out of his post, the movie was dumped at a crowded date with minimal publicity and was left to die a slow death at the box-office by the new heads at Universal. Why? So that the new heads can claim that THEIR upcoming product is better than the previous ones! Miramax head, Weinstein is another creep who edits non-European films until they are practically unrecognizable - all just to spite directors he doesn't like.
"And anyway, the question wasn't why this movie failed at the box office. Many good movies fail at the box office for many reasons. The question was why all that hate."
The heads of the studios didn't want competition from young upstarts like Devlin and Emmerich - Spielberg, Zemeckis, Ridley Scott and Tony Scott all had suffered some sort of commercial disappointment in the 90s. Also, the perception was that Emmerich had gotten too big for his boots and was incredibly arrogant. Plus, the funding for many of their movies cam from foreign sources - so most of the profits went overseas. Plus, Godzilla is a property that was owned by Toho, which was a Japanese company - if the property was a success, then the residuals would have gone to Japan instead of staying in the USA. Also, Hollywood is worried that if ONE foreign-owned property is a success, then the foreign entity holding the rights may suddenly grow a brain and realize that they DON'T NEED The American studios to produce their films - they'll seek financing elsewhere, produce the movies themselves and get foreign actors for the parts - shutting the Hollywood movie studios out. THIS is THE reason why they're so paranoid about allowing Foreign-owned properties from becoming Box-Office successes.
P.S. If you're wondering why they don't have a problem with producing a Godzilla movie NOW it's simple - the international box-office is greater than the US one for the Hollywood studios.
"I think I hadn't seen a Godzilla movie in my life before I saw Emmerich's movie.And I had a great time.I saw a huge monster destroying a city, that's what I paid for."
I saw a couple of Godzilla movies - on the small screen. Godzilla '98 was the first time I was the big lizard in all his glory on the big screen for the first time! Enjoyed it thorougly! In fact, I actually saw Godzilla '98 and the latest version of Godzilla back to back on my big-screen TV and safe to say, I enjoyed the '98 version more, believe it or not!
"It wasn't a masterpiece, and it had its flaws, like Broderick (nothing wrong with him, he's just not for blockbusters), but I can't think of myself walking out of the theater saying "oh, what a terrible movie, I wasted my money!" Have you seen "Transformers 3 and 4"? THESE are terrible movies... And they did awesome at the box office. That's life."
Broderick was a recipient of the 'Bar Mitzvah' style ethnic nepotism prevalent in Hollywood, i.e., he got the lead role because he's a 'semite' in an industry run by 'semites'. BTW, I thought that while some of the characters were miscast, the characters in Godzilla '98 were much more better, funnier and memorable than the boring zombies in the latest version of Godzilla. Heck, Jean Reno and Hank Azaria MADE 'zilla 98 memorable - I liked and cared about their characters. I cannot remember any of the people in the new Godzila movie. BTW, you're right - Michael Bay makes TERRIBLE movies. Only difference is, Michael is a Hollywood insider who is a white American re-hashing an intellectual property owned by an American toy company - so all the profits go back to the US. That's all that matters. Quality be damned.
Ok, I read and agree with everything you say, more or less. Just one clarification though (unrelated to Godzilla!).
"Miramax head, Weinstein is another creep who edits non-European films until they are practically unrecognizable - all just to spite directors he doesn't like."
You mean he did that when he was in Miramax, or now in The Weinstein Company, or both? So, why does he accept projects from directors he doesn't like to make movies in his company? :p