Has to be when Carmen is impaled near the end, and then, minutes later, she is FIRING AN ASSAULT RIFLE!
Then she, Rico, and Carl happily saunter off into the sunset.
Not sure what happened with that scene, but it really holds this movie back.
The "brave soldiers doing their patriotic duty to protect the home of the brave land of the free from invading beasts in a glorious war of extermination" is obscene propaganda. And this movie exposes it, mocks it.
The soldiers in Starship Troopers, are people whose lives are being shattered by the system, to make them angry, and the system channels this anger to perpetuate its own obscene existence. The general of the human army - Sky Marshal Dienes - is hiding in a closet, concerned only with his own survival, willing to send everybody else to die.
What is important to understand is that that we in our society are subjected to propaganda, where the soldier, the policeman, the secret agent, are presented as positive models, and the war is presented as something glorious.
War is not glorious. It's horror. You kill people like you. It's obscene to present war as something good.
So what Verhoeven does, is trying to show you the war as an obscene concept. Those soldiers killing those bugs have the minds of little kids pissing over an ants colony. They behave like a gang of rapists, the guns become sexual organs, substituting the true sexuality they are not allowed to experience - remember how they shower together, sexually unaware, and how Dizzy and Rico get to have sex once, for 20 minutes, before going to war.
The propaganda today is trying to brainwash you with this:
1. you are a loser
2. become a soldier/cop/secret agent
3. fight for your country/nation/freedom/democracy
4. the army makes you a man
5. everybody will respect you for being a soldier/cop/agent of the state
6. the girl you didn't have the guts to tell her you like her before going to war, will now want to fcvk you hard.
7. the father of the nation will approve of you.
When in reality, your masters send you to kill another man just like you, who was sent by his masters against your masters, as both your masters and his masters want control of everybody else.
I take it you never served and probably don't know anyone who enlisted.
sharegood thing we're talking about a movie then.
shareConsidering the number of Paul Verhoeven's friends and family whom he saw die during WWII, I think he is entitled to his opinion on the 'glory' of serving one's country. This movie is not against a defensive military. Rather, it is a brutal satire of the fascist aesthetic and the amoral nature of the military-industrial complex.
That you seemingly cannot differentiate the two is a testament to Verhoeven's overarching point.
,Said the Shotgun to the Head--
Saul Williams
This would make sense if we saw any evidence of the military in Starship Troopers being used in unnecessary offensive action. Instead the only military action we see is to defend the Earth against an enemy bent on our annihilation.
There are all the *trappings* of a fascist "military for the sake of having military" setup, but it's not supported by the script. I don't know if this was intentional by Verhoeven or an oversight - I'm just pointing it out.
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Philo's Law: To learn from your mistakes, you have to realize you're making mistakes.
This would make sense if we saw any evidence of the military in Starship Troopers being used in unnecessary offensive action. Instead the only military action we see is to defend the Earth against an enemy bent on our annihilation.
Did an analysis of the reality we're in as highlighted by this movie hurt your feelings?
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"If I wasn't paying attention, that's a plot-hole"
"If I didn't like it, that's a plot-hole"
LOL what a clown
shareFirst off, I think this is a great film. Secondly, regarding the scene, yeah it's one of those where you have to suspend disbelief, but there are multiple points in the film where that happens.
Now, as to the comments by criztu, the only reason you are able to write drivel like that is b/c of the very "brainwashed" servicemen who fought (and sometimes died) in multiple wars for your sorry butt. I really enjoy your take on war, as you have never seen even a minute of actual combat. True, there is some propaganda today by the U.S., but nothing on the scale of previous countries and it certainly is not brainwashing by any stretch of the imagination. War is dirty, but I wouldn't classify it as obscene (I actually use that word very sparingly). Often the objective is to kill the enemy, but not always and even when killing the enemy it can often be in protection of others or taking (or holding) a position that will save lives (and possibly help win the war for your side). So, when you enlist and serve some time, let me know. They take new recruits up to at least 35...
"Courage is being scared to death- and saddling up anyway"
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You preaching about propaganda is a little ironic after that post.
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The whole film is just a touch over-the-top, like that.
It's just the style of film.
You are taking the movie too seriously. This is a satire. The whole movie is, and is supposed to be a joke. That is one reason why it is so good --- it is funny and really stupid.
Girl was tough, to say the least.
You want something corny? You got it!