Overrated because of her death. - Selena (1997) Discussion

[–] DarthAckbar (2076) 10 months ago

I don't think she was Mexican, she was born in TX

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[–] OnanTheBarbarian (12121) 10 months ago

Tex-Mex. But her audience was Mexican-American.

Okay, the reason I'm cynical, is because I had Chicano friends who suddenly loved her after she died, but never even listened to her or Tex-Mex music. Just at the time it was very eye rolling.

Really dude, she was a very obscure artist when she died. The murder made her famous.

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[–] DarthAckbar (2076) 10 months ago

i'm sure you are right, that kind of thing has definitely happened before

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[–] OnanTheBarbarian (12121) 10 months ago

I remember going to lunch with a Latino friend right after she died. I was telling him she was overrated and he told me to keep my voice down because other Latinos would be offended. Haha.

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[–] DarthAckbar (2076) 10 months ago

whoops! lol

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[–] TimeTunnel (4769) 10 months ago

And you opened the next OP why?
https://moviechat.org/nm1203495/Mindy-McCready/65db8c094e1a13098447b2eb/Was-she-a-murderer

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[–] OnanTheBarbarian (12121) 10 months ago

Because her story was linked in MovieChat's "You May Like". I googled her and the story was interesting.

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[–] TimeTunnel (4769) 10 months ago

Ok, and now you bastard follow it that all women are bad.
Get it.

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[–] OnanTheBarbarian (12121) 10 months ago

I used to fuck a Latino guy who was a rather successful LA DJ on the Spanish-speaking circuit. We dated for like 5 years.

He taught me all about Mexican and Central American music. There are several different styles, and it's a very fun and creative genre. Sorry, I've listened to Tex-Mex music, the style which Selena played. It's an awful American countrified ripoff of real Mexican music. I'm sad this girl died. But her music was schlock.

It was her beauty and her death which got her on the radio, not her talent.

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[–] strntz (12442) 10 months ago

Overrated? Well, she's no Ella, but her talent was plus plus in today's entertainment world. I honestly only know her through the Jennifer Lopez movie, but I looked at some live video of her. She had looks, she could sing, she could dance. Other than looks, Selena was leagues ahead of Tay Tay.

So if we use today's metrics for judging her talent, it doesn't seem she was overrated.

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[–] OnanTheBarbarian (12121) 10 months ago

Okay, I'm sure she was a talented artist. I'm just saying when she died in 1995, even Mexican-Americans had never heard of her. She and Tejano music were rather obscure.

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[–] strntz (12442) 10 months ago

One of my wishes for an instrument that will never exist is what I wistfully describe as an "Alternate Timeline Tablet" a device you can enter a historical event and modify any parameter you want, push "play", and see the change in history. Imagine plugging in Hitler being shot back in 1932 or preventing Lincoln from being shot in 1865... sigh...

If I had such a device, I would change Selena's unfortunate murder and see what would have happened to her career if left unimpeded. I would also love to see where Buddy Holly would have gone if he didn't die at just 22 years old. I wonder if he would have written movie scores that Rogers and Hammerstein would have envied.

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[–] liscarkat (18536) 10 months ago

Buddy Holly probably would have gone on to nostalgia popularity like other 1950s rockers such as Little Richard and Chuck Berry. It is extraordinarily unlikely that he would have composed musicals to surpass Rodgers and Hammerstein.

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[–] strntz (12442) 10 months ago

But we'll never know. He died at 22..

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[–] OnanTheBarbarian (12121) 10 months ago

👍

Or what if Janis Joplin and Jimi Hendrix didn't die when they were 27? They still hadn't even created their masterpieces.

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[–] VonFisch (354) 7 months ago

Agreed that her national fame came after her death, but I don't think she is overrated at all. She had a phenomenal voice, and if you watch her live performances, she has no off-key moments and I think is as good as Whitney Houston on delivery. Seems to be a very energetic entertainer.

I think she was on the cusp of national fame when she was killed, what with starting to record the English crossover album. I think she was more regionally known. Tejano music is based in Texas, and I'm sure she her popularity, and in parts of Mexico, is because of the frequent traffic between Texas and Mexico, bringing the music with them.

She couldn't have won a Grammy and drew those kinds of crowds if she was overrated.

What area of the country were you then?

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