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sorry, i've never seen this movie. im not sure if i want to after reading the summary. why would you want to seduce your own dad??? what on earth is wrong with this character?
sharesorry, i've never seen this movie. im not sure if i want to after reading the summary. why would you want to seduce your own dad??? what on earth is wrong with this character?
sharemaybe she wants to be loved.
shareso do i, but i wouldnt sleep with a relative
shareYeah, how sick.
shareWell, it's probably because she most likely has a mental illness;
the Electra Syndrome is a problem that is actually diagnosed, where a girl wants to be with their father,
as the Oedipus syndrome exists for men wanting to be with their mothers.
I don't think it was simply that she thought, 'Hey, my dad's really cute. Let's kill my mom so I can have him.' It was a combination of things... perhaps the need to be loved, or a mental imbalance.
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It's just a movie.
shareI just saw the movie this morning on Lifetime Movies and all the clues were there for the daughter's twisted attraction to her father:
The mother did the "tough love" thing with the older daughter, Ellie, while the father was overly permissive toward her. Then there was the fact that both parents were unfaithful to each other. Ellie actually witnessed her mother's liaison with the next-door neighbor, Lawson, and the viewer can infer from Ben's and Lena's dinner conversation after Karen's murder that they were intimate before his wife was killed. In fact, Ben probably promised Lena that he would divorce Karen and marry Lena. Remember the "green card" remark that Lena made?
And it's not shown, but Ben acknowledges that he's crossed the line by occupying the same bed with his daughters after his wife's death, first with the two of them, then that night on the sofa with Ellie. That why Ellie had the power to blackmail him into sending Lena away after his wedding to Lena.
So, the whole family was totally messed up. It's not difficult to understand why Ellie easily fell into that trap of first admiring dad because she was his favorite and he spoiled her, then missing him when he was staying away in the evenings, probably with Lena, and--from her point of view--mom was just mean to her and dad! Perfectly fertile ground for an Electra complex!
In peace,
Debbie Jordan
www.imaginetheworldatpeace.com
I don't think Ben crossed the line by allowing his daughters to sleep in his bed after their mother's murder. A situation like that can cause serious fear and trauma. And when he cuddled up to Ellie, he thought it was Karen - he was asleep after all. The family bed can be a very comforting situation, especially after a trauma such as the one that family had just experienced.
BUT.
The couch situation was entirely different. There was something very sexual about the way they lay together, and that whole conversation they had before falling asleept (the "kiss me like a movie star" talk) was disgusting. Was she implying that he stuck his tongue in her mouth? Ugh. And even if he didn't, bending you daughter backward and pressing your lips against hers ala Bergman/Bogart is just plain inappropriate and borderline pedophilia.
What a weird, twisted movie.
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And it's not shown, but Ben acknowledges that he's crossed the line by occupying the same bed with his daughters after his wife's death, first with the two of them, then that night on the sofa with Ellie. That why Ellie had the power to blackmail him into sending Lena away after his wedding to Lena.
It's the Electra complex
shareI've read all the posts here, and with regard to the "Electra" and "Oedipus" syndromes, I want to say that the Electra syndrome is, in my estimation anyhow, probably much more common. My mother was a wonderful person, and I loved her with all my heart, but I can say with all honesty that I didn't want to diddle her. My dad, though... Well, come to think of it, I didn't want to diddle him, either. I mean, not even a little bit.
Listen, I've had a little something to drink tonight, just forget I said anything. :-[
Terence
wow.. im sorry i just cant see trying to seduce my dad.. thats very very sick and gross..i love julia stiles but this movie..ranks
Whats your damage heather?-veronica sawyer
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I wouldn't want to murder my parents, beat my kids or wife or sleep with my parents, but those things do happen and an actor shouldn't be judge harshly for portraying a character, that's what they do... That wasn't Julia's story or her wishes, it was a character she played...
Bill Steward
she was mentally insane basically...
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