I counted the amount of F-Words in this movie and there's 429 and if anyone can try to prove me wrong they can actually watch the movie and stop screwin around.
Movies like this suck like when they rely on audiences that rent movies for this *beep* language. I mean casino was tolerable because it at least was entertaing and had a good plot but this one is like a *beep* comedy for the poor. Thats all i have to say.
http://tinyurl.com/4sm5q - Wikipedia's list of highest F word usage in a film (had to tinyurl it because of IMDb's censor)
Of the 49 movies they list, Nil By Mouth has the most F bombs (470). It also has the highest per minute (3.67). They do say it's not a complete list, but how could it ever be?
EDIT: looks like The Devil's Rejects may have more now, but it's not ranked.
I've worked with and had contact with people who use the F-word like punctuation. Others just slip it into their conversation every other word or so. This is not exaggeration or intended to turn people off the film, it is telling the truth. Many people don't have the vocabulary to express themselves properly so rely on profanity. Superb film, well cast and acted. Ray Winstone and Cathy Burke deserve special mention, outstandingly good and very believable.
This film is representative of one of the big parts of British film industry to try and portray it as realistically as possible, to expose the audience to the full brutality of the topic. The language used hits home the hostile world that these guys live in day in day out, it's what makes it such a great film, just in the same way that Kes is depressingly bleak and that rat catcher is also so claustrophobic. If youpay attention to the film you do come away from it thinking quite hard, just in the same way that i watched American history X for the first time. Don't judge it just 'cause it doesn't suit your political tastes, with a film like this you have to adapt your views in analysing this film, not the other way round, not every film you watch should have to be Hollywood gliz glammer and comfort.
In fact in certain places and among certain groups of people not to swear all the time...men ,women and children alike, marks you out as being "different" and can even provoke hostility.So it is reflecting one aspect of Brit society..like it or not.
As an Essex/East London dwelling Brit who goes to West Ham a lot I'll have to say that the use of the word 4uck is very common in people of a working class background or the people who wish they were gangsters. Value is put to being tough and language like that is used to show masculinity. Right or wrong (I'm sure someone will now criticise society in general for being "wrong...) this film is a superb representation of people, families and socila groups that anyone from London will have encoutered.
As for swearing being gratuitous or just bad, think about Glen Garry Glenross, which has swearing throughout but reserves the big moment for Pacino's famous outburst. That's more shocking than just saying a particular word a lot isn't it? It's just a sound made in your mouth so perhaps just watching and taking in the film will lead to a better appreciation of it. Alternatively we can have a discussion of whether Thelma and Louise says "and" too much.....
Mmmmm, I am an essex girl ( please notice the absence of white stillettos and handbag dancing), I used to use the F word all the time, at the end of every sentence infact ( Or maybe the beginning I cant quite remember), Anyway, 18 yrs ago I moved futher North and the Norvenners kindly pointed out that I swore too much and they aint nevver errd anyfink like it, soooooo I have learned to swear only in the company of swearers alike. Its just a word like any other and If you knew the history behind the word then it isnt really a swear word at all :-).
Yes, Im a canadian but I have lived in south London, and this movie does reflect the way people speak in this area, its just the way it is. In fact, these characters are all very real, I met them all!
Fraggle Rock isnt just a muppet show.
ps I want the soundtrack to this movie, will trade first born son!
Using F word after F word real or not is just stupid. It completely obscures the drift of the plot. How are you supposed to get the film if all you're hearing is f words. 400 and something f words in a film that is just over two hours long?
Its funny that many of you posters above call the OP ignorant, because he doesn't understand the "realism" or is "American" (now that's just ironic), but you can convey a society plagued with violence and corruption without pervasive use of foul language.
That depends on your usual exposure to the word I guess. I'm a civil servant (I work for the queen don't you know) & I'd estimate hearing over 20 f ucks a day at work but I've only ever heard one c u next tuesday...so it isn't just the province of the working classes as you all so patronisingly think.
I don't really think it's a matter of class or whatever, but just a "people are people" thing when you really think about it. People talk one way at home, another at work, and still ANOTHER when they're in unfamiliar company, and it's all very natural.
I live and work in nice, relativily quiet (though crime and murder is a little high for it's medium size), religious Mobile, Alabama, and on a daily basis I get the full spectrum of language habits from people I know. Many of my co-workers almost never swear, at least not when they're at work anyway. Some swear quite a bit; some can let loose when angry/irritated, though hardly use the 'F'-word as punctuation. Others still swear fairly commonly. I myself have several modes of speech, and can go entire days without using words stronger than "ass" or "damn". Other days (rainy days...bad days...whatever), I go from dusk until dawn spewing the F-word like a smokestack. So, it depends...on one's mood, moral qualms (some think it's crude or wrong), and the company one is keeping at any given time (swear with my buds? *beep* YEAH! Swear with my dad? F%CK NOOO!).
Personally, I find it an interesting topic, but am never really offended by words, only by the occassional concept. And my fave film is Pulp Fiction, which is no blushing bride when it comes to vulgarity itself.
There's a lack of logic and consistency in the way obscenities are graded. Many people who are offended by these expressions are quite churchified, but will take more offence at 'for f---'s sake' than 'for Christ's sake'. Seems to me that to take the name of coital activity in vain should be less likely to get you into hell than using the name of their lord and saviour. Likewise, 'bugger off' is considered less odious than 'f--- off'. A moments reflection makes you wonder why.
Using F word after F word real or not is just stupid. It completely obscures the drift of the plot. How are you supposed to get the film if all you're hearing is f words. 400 and something f words in a film that is just over two hours long?
Its funny that many of you posters above call the OP ignorant, because he doesn't understand the "realism" or is "American" (now that's just ironic), but you can convey a society plagued with violence and corruption without pervasive use of foul language
Utter rubbish.
You can convey violence without swearing (sweeny todd anyone), but why should you?
You write whatever you want to write, and then it's upto people to watch it or not.
You don't want some pious nobhead sat on your shoulder while you create art, realism and drama saying 'Oh, couldn't you change that world to 'flip' coz I can't handle real words?'
Same as you don't want someone barging in and saying 'ere, stick the F word in that line 10 times - it'll be fackin' awesome!'
You write what feels right.
I really didn't even notice the swearing in this, no more than anything else anyway.
I was more surpised in Beowulf when Ray didn';t get to shout 'I'm fackin' Beowulf you slaaaaags! Ave it!' :-)
You clearly don't see the irony of criticising a film for using bad language (which is a poor point in this instance as it is an accurate portrait) whilst using bad language to express your opinion. Dear oh dear.
God, reminds me of working in a "chain" video store (not Blockbuster, the other big one in Canada). I mean, of course ANY customer service job can drive you nuts, and yes, I got hit with EVERY question that the video store guy gets asked in "Clerks". (My fave was "Oh man, I saw this movie, it was the most hilarious thing I'd *EVER* seen, I'd love to see it again, but the only thing I remember about it was that it had a cow in it." "Remember any actors in it?" "Nope." "Remember anything that HAPPENED in it?" "Nope." "Remember ANY part of the title?" "Nope, nothing except that it was probably the best movie I'd ever seen!" Now they let us use imdb, reference books, whatever could help us, but this guy was beyond help. Or so I thought. After ignoring all other customers and all my other duties for 45 min I found the frickin movie and didn't even get a thanks out of it!!!!)
Sorry for the babble. Yeah, all the time we got people in that wanted to know what a movie was rated, or if the movie was okay for their 6 year old, or if it had "too much" violence, sex, whatever. Dude, YOU'RE the parent. That's why I don't have kids. My favorite was two 30 year old women come in and ask for a movie with "no swearing, no violence, nothing that could upset them". So I point them to the Family section. "Oh no, those are KIDS movies.". Actually they weren't, they were ALL the movies without swearing, violence, etc.; it just so happens that if someone makes a movie like that THEY'RE MAKING IT FOR FLIPPIN 9 YEAR OLDS!! So I had to dig through the comedy section trying to find something G rated that "wasn't too much like a kiddie movie".
People are insane. You wouldn't BELIEVE how many requests movie studios, distrubitors, stores, etc. get for "cleaned up" versions of PG or "higher" movies, like the kind that airlines get. I'll never understand that for the frickin life of me. If you want to live in a pretend land where everybody lives in a fairy tale, then watch Disney flicks. Don't try and get the "clean" version of Nil By Mouth.
My friend has it down. He's got an "alt and cult" (his phrase) independant video store. If somebody wants something fit to show in church, they don't even enter his store. And he's making a great living at it, while Blockhustler is going broke in every country in the world except for the US, because the rest of the world doesn't have enough people with their heads in the sand I guess.
"How many F-Words can one stand in a movie?". Jezus H Krist. People actually have a threshold for these things? "Well, anything under 3 a minute is okay, but as soon as you start hitting that 3.001/min, I have to shut it off, otherwise I throw up and go into convulsions.". Like, give me a break.
"(My fave was "Oh man, I saw this movie, it was the most hilarious thing I'd *EVER* seen, I'd love to see it again, but the only thing I remember about it was that it had a cow in it." "Remember any actors in it?" "Nope." "Remember anything that HAPPENED in it?" "Nope." "Remember ANY part of the title?" "Nope, nothing except that it was probably the best movie I'd ever seen!" Now they let us use imdb, reference books, whatever could help us, but this guy was beyond help. Or so I thought. After ignoring all other customers and all my other duties for 45 min I found the frickin movie and didn't even get a thanks out of it!!!!)"
"(My fave was "Oh man, I saw this movie, it was the most hilarious thing I'd *EVER* seen, I'd love to see it again, but the only thing I remember about it was that it had a cow in it." "Remember any actors in it?" "Nope." "Remember anything that HAPPENED in it?" "Nope." "Remember ANY part of the title?" "Nope, nothing except that it was probably the best movie I'd ever seen!" Now they let us use imdb, reference books, whatever could help us, but this guy was beyond help. Or so I thought. After ignoring all other customers and all my other duties for 45 min I found the frickin movie and didn't even get a thanks out of it!!!!)"
Zombie55, if you do end up watching the movie, let me know if it was worth all that time, and energy, and frustration, and if it truly IS the "best movie ever made". Thanx.
"And people wonder why I beat hookers..." - Tig, Sons Of Anarchy
Someday I will. But the trouble is at the moment it is unavailable to rent or buy on DVD (or Blu-Ray for that matter) at all here in UK, and it doesn't look like any of the film channels (such as the independent FilmFour) are going to show it here anytime either. But if I may track down a cheap copy of it on eBay, I will try and give it a go and let you know all that I think about it. Thanks for the tip DJ-Ren.
(Though I must note, I still have A LOT of movies, including the cinema releases of nowadays that may soon come out on DVD that I've got to explore and check out, as well as work and studies, which means I really have no idea when I may actually have the time and money to track down and watch "Buying the Cow". But nah, it doesn't even seem like a particularly good film to me based on what I've read about it!)
Zombie55 said: "Though I must note, I still have A LOT of movies, including the cinema releases of nowadays that may soon come out on DVD that I've got to explore and check out, as well as work and studies, which means I really have no idea when I may actually have the time and money to track down and watch ["Buying The Cow" or other movies]..."
I'm with you 110%. I've put myself on an emergency "full stop" when it comes to renting movies, buying movies, or even going to video stores or places-that-sell-DVDs. I've had to - because, as Zombie55 said above, there's (literally) 3000+ movies that I *OWN* that need to be watched (or at least filed, or, at the very least, STACKED in such a manner that I can find them when I want to watch one of them, instead of dumping the movies in my spare room whenever I get them), then there's the whole work & studies thing, then there's Xmas coming up, so even though I may occassionally go to play.com and go into cardiac arrest by the movies that are selling for 3 pounds that I can't even GET in N. America, (but that I can order brand new for probably about $10 w/ S&H from the UK)... I just gotta put the brakes on. At least until I finish watching the last season of Lost...
"And people wonder why I beat hookers..." - Tig, Sons Of Anarchy
sounds to me that dawson's f--kin sad, for sitting all the way through the film just to count the amount of 'F' words there arem instead of enjoying a good film... well done your a retard.