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A couple of questions from a first time viewer


Hello all. I just saw this movie for the first time. I'm in hopes someone can clear a couple of things up for me.

1. What was the meaning behind all those close up shots of the necklace worn by Shelly Knight? Did I miss something?

2. Was Kate involved in the actual kidnapping? Or did she come into the story later down the road. Not sure but when Shelly Knight makes the man say "It ain't over till the fat lady sings" I was assuming he said this to her during the abduction. Then she has Kate Say "silence isn't golden", so is this just simply her way of thinking that Kate knew all along, or is there more revealed here?

I would of loved to of seen any deleted scenes that help with the murkyness, but there isn't any on the DVD;(

thanks to all that answer
tom

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I saw this movie a long time ago and don't recall every single detail.

I'm really not sure of the significance of the necklace. If I remember correctly didn't it have a locket with a pic of her son inside? Or was it a gift given to her by her husband at the time Jimmy was taken. I know it ties into Jimmy somehow but again I don't exactly recall.

The 2nd question is very interesting. From what I recall the movie never really tells you exactly at what pt Kate comes into the equation. No she wasn't involved in the actual kidnapping and I really don't feel she approved of it at all but she goes along with it as an unwilling participant for fear or just general mental manipulation at the hands of her sadistic husband. Her weak character is the one problem I had with this movie. I felt regardless of any amount of manipulation that she was experiencing at the hands of this man, she should have made the effort to do something, anything really, from leaving him to calling the authorities, standing up to him, whatever. That's the 1 stretch if you can call it that the movie makes you have to accept. That's why at the end of the film when Doris extracts her revenge she says 'Silence isn't always golden'. Meaning she was just as guilty as him for keeping quiet about it.

But then again one could also make the argument that as messed up as she knew this was, she was a willing participant because she really liked this guy and she knew that in order to raise a family with him this just had to be done. So she accepted it as such. But I really don't think the movie portrays it this way. It's clear that she's pretty disgusted and fed up with the whole arrangement. Then again one could also argue that she was a willing participant at 1st and then somewhat got tired of it later on. Either way her character is extremely weak in this film.

My interpretation she's just really *beep* up in the head. Suffers from some kind of clinical depression and extreme feelings of worthlessness and is therefore easily manipulated by her husband and is willing to go along with things no matter how messed up they may be. In other words I'm pretty sure she knows better but just doesn't have the mental and physical strength at this point to stand up against it. But make no mistake I am by no means making her out to be innocent. You can find read about this discussion here

http://imdb.com/title/tt0119547/board/thread/18089412


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Kate must have known. There is no other explanation for why she flipped out when Ray wanted to tell Jimmy the truth. And why would he tell her they needed to tell him if she didn't know what that something was? I doubt it was the fact that she wasn't really his mother, it had to have been the whole truth, otherwise she wouldn't have been so upset, would she?

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I assumed the "truth" Ray was talking about, and what Kate wanted to keep from Jimmy was the fact that he's the boy's father. I don't know if she knew he was stolen or not.

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Yes. I take it that Kate was married to Ray while he ws in the service. Ray kidnapped Danny/Jimmy to satisfy Kate's desire for a child and thus to hold on to her.

Yes, her character was weak. Who else would stay with a guy like Ray all that time.

That said, John Savage does a great job of giving believability and some sympathy at least for his motive, if not his actions.

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1/ "Little boy blue and the man in the moon" is a song lyric from a 1974 folk song by Harry Chapin called "Cat's In The Cradle". The necklace is a crescent moon so I assumed that is what it referenced.

2/ No she wasn't involved in the actual kidnapping. But she was complicit in the covering up of the kidnapping afterwards hence "silence isn't golden". She kept her mouth shut instead of reporting the fact that her husband had come home with a 6 month old baby with whatever ridiculous lie he told her.

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1. I thought the same thing.

2. But Mrs. Knight couldn't have known that Kate new about the kidnapping. For what she new, Kate might have married Ray after the fact and she might think Jimmy is Ray's son from previous relationship. Knight didn't know about the forced incest or anything else in that family. She only new that Ray was the one that has taken her son from her.

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No, but I think the "Little Boy Blue" book was her tip-off that Kate knew. Remember, Kate first hid it in the crossbar of the clothes hanging setup. She saw Doris coming & must've moved it to Jimmy's shack so Doris would find it. I.e. Kate wanted the truth to come out. Unfortunately for her, it led to her being punished for her part in the decade-long cover-up.

Remember too, Kate helped cover up the murder of Andy, the P.I.

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