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The criminals were acting in self defence


In the "shotgun Ed" scene, the criminals were acting in self defense, and were murdered. Just watch the scene very carefully and think about it very logically. Sorry, but I only remember Exley's name. The second cop straight up murdered the first criminal. He had his hands up while he was shot. So since the second cop murdered the first criminal, the second criminal shot him in self defense. Self defense also constitutes the defense of another person. Then Exley shot the second criminal. Since he shot him while he was acting in self defense, that means Exley murdered him. Then the third criminal tried to shoot Exley, but Exley shot him first. Since Exley murdered the second criminal, that means the third criminal tried to shoot him in self defense. Again, since Exley shot him while he was acting in self defense, that means he murdered him. Shooting the fourth criminal while he ran was also murder. It's usually legal to shoot a fleeing felon if they pose a severe threat to society, but in this case, since all his friends were just murdered right in front of him, running was a non-violent form of self defense, so Exley once again shot him while he was acting in self defense, which means he murdered him.

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Before the Miranda Act in the early 1970s, cops could do all the stuff they did in this movie which is set in the 1950s. Just like Dudley Smith says at the beginning. You could beat a suspect to get him to confess to a crime you think he committed. You could shoot a criminal to death who you knew committed a horrible crime on the off chance he could get a lawyer to clear most of the charges. That's how it was.

There is a movie starring Gene Hackman called The French Connection based on an actual corrupt cop named Popeye Doyle who actually would rob evidence lockers and put drugs on guys who just got released so he could arrest them and have them go back to prison for something they didn't do. And he got away with it. I'm sure that guy is not in a nice place now.

1, 2 Freddy's coming for you. 3, 4 better lock your door.

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I'd argue the cops can still do those things today. They're technically illegal, but the cops do it all the time and rarely get punished for it.

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Like I’m going to respect anything that an unimaginative asshole who thinks it’s witty to call himself “Mike Hunt” has to say.

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There is a movie starring Gene Hackman called The French Connection based on an actual corrupt cop named Popeye Doyle who actually would rob evidence lockers and put drugs on guys who just got released so he could arrest them and have them go back to prison for something they didn't do. And he got away with it. I'm sure that guy is not in a nice place now.


Holy crap! I had no idea!

I'm old enough to remember the The French Connection, but it's mostly famous now for its legendary car chase. It never dawned on me that the producers (IF they knew) would whitewash a cop's abuse of power like that. Unreal...

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What do you think your corrupt, evil CIA are doing? Various Presidents detested them.

Illegal, immoral things by an illegal, immoral ''agency''.

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Criminals permanently removed from the landscape equals no more crimes committed by them. Total deterrence as far as those individuals are concerned. The world is a cleaner, safer place the second they're gone. Exley performed a valuable service for society.

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Exactly! No mention from the WOKE OP that the criminals abducted and gang raped a woman for days on end. Quit comparing a stupid movie to real life.

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Yeah but that other cop turned out to be corrupt tho.

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