How was the twist realistic? Everything up until the twist felt very realistic, more or less, and then all of the sudden we find out that Sydney has killed John's father? That twist feels more idealistic than the idea of Jimmy being a disgruntled pimp. And even if Jimmy did tell John, what the hell is John going to do about it? Is John suddenly now a hard boiled gangster after learning a couple meager cheats in a casino? Would John go after Sydney himself, or would he enlist in the help of Jimmy and his cronies to hunt him down and kill him? That seems far more unrealistic. Does Sydney simply not want him to know because he doesn't want to lose John as a friend? Because it doesn't seem like these two will ever cross paths again, and it also seems like it would be easier to lose John as a friend, rather than to mess around with large amounts of money and murder somebody.Setting all that aside, it seems like Jimmy would more or less kill Sydney if he didn't give him the money. If that's the case, why even throw in the fact that Sydney killed John's father if it's pretty much just a straight-forward robbery? What should have been said is, "Give me the money or I'll kill you and then tell John what you did in Atlantic City!" Not "Give me the money or I'll tell John what you did in Atlantic City!". This twist doesn't have much simplicity or realism in it.
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LotsaMotsa
11 years ago
I see your point. If I were Sydney I wouldn't want John to know about it regardless of whether or not hed do anything about it. I think the twist serves as a great way to reveal motivation. It explains why Sydney didbt just walk out on John during the motel room scene when the easiest thing to do would just say the hell with it and walk out. The twist really helps explain his motivation and why he's so invested in an idiot like John
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franzkabuki
11 years ago
Idealistic? That`s what the whole film`s about - and why PTA insisted upon titling the movie "Sydney".
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SloppyJ30
10 years ago
What I found unrealistic was that Syd would just randomly walk up to some complete stranger sitting on the sidewalk and offer to be his Yoda. I assumed the entire time that we were going to learn something that motivated Syd's "adoption" of John. Therefore, I don't even consider the shot-the-father-in-the-face thing a twist at all.
No details to add context for Syd's actions would've meant no foundation for the entire story, and the whole story would've made little sense. The other stuff that bothered you doesn't seem out of place at all to me. Jimmy tells us that he found out Syd was a hard-ass in his youth, so the idea that he still had it in him to take care of Jimmy on his own is no surprise.
Syd had been consumed with guilt over killing John's father years ago and made it his mission in life to atone as much as he could. If he was sincere in this mission -- which by all appearances he was -- then the idea of John finding out about his past was much more horrifying than any threats of violence or loss of money at the hands of Nick Fury. Jimmy sensed this, and used it to his advantage.
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zee944
9 years ago
It's really a pathetic rant considering the actual reason of Sydney's wish never crossed your mind. The plot and the motivations are rather simple, but it still seem too complicated for some people.
Unrealistic twist? And no reason for Sydney to conceal the truth? You gotta be kidding me.
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