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Why did Will feel the abuse was his fault?



I'm seriously asking, I do know a bit about abuse & its victims.

But Will didn't seem like 'the type' to feel that way. He didn't say much about his nasty foster parents either.
He just said the guy made him choose his abuse weapon. What could Will have possibly done, even in his own mind, to deserve that???



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Isn't that how it usually goes, though? It's easier to believe it's your fault than to believe that someone who's supposed to care for you can be that callous, vicious or abusive. I'm not sure I ever met anyone who was abused who didn't have that feeling at one point or another, deep down. And that's how the abuser always rationalizes it, right?

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Exactly.. It's not a logical conclusion for him to have reached which is strange considering in the rest of his life, he has a very practical, logical mind, but that's just the way it often works.. abusers play on their victims insecurities and eventually convince them that they are at fault.. Perhaps he felt that it was his fault for making his abuser angry or even for not defending himself.. We don't know but it's a belief a lot of real life victims hold.

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The abuse happened when he was a helpless, little child who couldn't defend himself mentally or physically. A small child at a young age, believes his/her parents are always right, therefore self blame is only natural. There is a natural, organic hierarchy built in to a parent child relationship, when abused can be fatal for a child's future.

Will had no way to defend against it, even in the present. The trauma get's preserved at whatever age it occurred. Let's say the trauma occurred at 3 years old. Will could be 25 but parts of his emotions have stagnated and arrested in development due to that trauma.

Will struggles to form close connections with people and has a profound distrust. He struggles in most relationships and has a fear of intimacy. All of this stems from a child being distrustful of their parents.

In summary, your future is your past. Unless of course, you can change through personal growth or seeking help. This can occur at any age and depends on the person's genetics and general outlook/coping mechanism for life. Some can recuperate and become stronger, other's will deteriorate. Since it's a hybrid and multi-faceted, it's often obscured why some do better than others.

Not being able to forge relationships opens someone up to feeling lonely, depressed and anxious all the time. Therefore it is paramount that any individual get's help. Attachment disorder will often lead a person to a path of suicidal thoughts and self destructive behaviour if left untreated.

PM any questions, I've had a similar background and I'm in deep therapy. Hope this response edifies someone.

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That would be a pretty good reason. Other than his pack of losers, who else liked him, at all?

So no wonder his stepdad turned out to be a "no nonsense" SOB who to top if off was also abusive. Lucky he didn't get shot.

The girl sure took off once she got to really know him, right? Can you blame her? How wants to stick around for his BS?

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Excuse me, she left to go to medical school, which had been her plan all along.

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I'm a clinical psychologist (retired) and I worked with (saw in therapy) many scores of people who've been abused as children -- and then placed in one foster family home after another when their behaviors in each successive foster home led to failure and placement in yet another. Quite a few had been in 8 or 10 (& a few even more) by the time they were 18. And I also worked with the new foster parents.

I agree with "visual_sky" who said:

"The abuse happened when he was a helpless, little child who couldn't defend himself mentally or physically. A small child at a young age, believes his/her parents are always right, therefore self blame is only natural. There is a natural, organic hierarchy built in to a parent child relationship, when abused can be fatal for a child's future."


Some of the very predictable things I saw was that -- when a child was removed from their parents because of being abused (by a parent) and placed in a new foster home, whenever the new foster parents tried to make up for the "lack of love" that child had experienced in their original home, although that child seemed to relish that at first, usually within 6-8 weeks their behaviors increasingly became such that punishment seem deserved. When it was given, as usual, there then began an increasing escalation on both sides until the child was necessarily removed and placed in another home.

For awhile, I thought this was a "loyalty" to the original parent(s)--as if saying, "I must forgive you (mother or father) for treating me that way--you see, everyone treats me that way (so I must deserve it)." Perhaps it was that in some cases. What I found MOST helpful was to work with the foster parents to get them to understand and predict when those misbehaviors would occur and to use "atonements" or "make ups" (doing something good to make up for the misbehavior rather than getting punishments or restrictions). AFTER they'd done this for awhile, it was THEN that I found it useful to begin seeing the child or adolescent in therapy.

(And I taught this technique for over 20 years to much appreciation to many agencies and therapists who dealt with these children to much appreciation for its helpfulness.)

BUT, that said, while this film does have a VERY hopeful, uplifting, redemptive theme, I also found it kind of a pastiche, a collage, a quilt, of various psychological reactions and traits without having a realistically believable integrated narrative. We're asked to believe Will has a one in 10 million mathematical intelligence and ability plus a one in a million (or more) photographic memory for all kinds of things we never see him read.

JMO

P.S. (ETA) -- And among parents who abuse their children, in my experience about 70-80% have themselves been abused as children. And among those parents who have been abused as children, when they become parents, all have had some really serious problems in their parenting which they've passed on to their children.

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I've done a bit of counseling work as well. I had a 30 something woman who was forced to give up a baby when she was 16. It pretty much destroyed her. It marred every relationship and interaction and friendship in her life. She grieved at the loss of what she felt was her first true love and her soul mate (he was also a teen).

She turned into a sobbing mess as well, when I used those exact same words. It TRULY wasn't her fault she was forced to give up the baby. Things were a lot different for girls back in the late eighties in small town America. She was too far along by the time she came clean about the pregnancy. Boyfriend had already abandoned her. She truly loved him and didn't want to give up this piece of him. But there were no support systems in place and both her parents were determined she was NOT going to keep the baby. They didn't want her to ruin her life. However, by taking this important choice away from her, THEY damaged her beyond their wildest imagination.

It was not Will's fault he was beaten and abused. There wasn't anything he could have done to stop it. He have known that on the surface, but when Sean violated his space bubble and really got him to ACCEPT and believe it, that was a huge breakthrough.

Not the greatest or most accurate depiction of therapy, but a good watch.

All typos are hereby blamed on my iPad.

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Who said he did? That was just Sean's way to get through to Will to confront his inner demons.

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Interesting point.
When Sean finally got through, though, Will's reaction was: "I'm so sorry"

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Not seeming 'the type' I think was part of his way of covering up the insecurities underneath.
He never felt good enough, probably down to the abuse.
He covers it up with bravado and and 'logic'.
Parents not caring and belittling you takes a lot to get over, and in one way or another stays with the person forever.

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