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Spanish/Mexican Stereotypes


Are there any? If so exactly what examples? Is it like Greek Wedding kind of as far as the exaggerations of the stereotypes?

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well, I'm not mexican although latina and a comun stereotype is the one when matthew perry's character went to mexico and had to ride an animal to get to the village. I didn't like that part.
And also her parents were cartoons!!..nobody is like that!
anyway I enjoyed the movie only because I love Matthew Perry.

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Come on now, bonita, you haven't met met hispanic people like these? I'm half mexican and lived for years in Laredo and I KNOW people like Chuy and the parents. And you know what? I've ridden donkeys in Mexico.

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agree raiden1969. I'm half Mexican, live in San Antonio, have been in Houston/San Antonio for a good part of my life. Except for the 10 years my parents divorced and my mom took me and my brother to live in San Francisco (blech). My mom is the white one, dad is Mexican. Anyway, while I was there in California, I went to high school and that's where I met my husband. He's very white bread. This is why this is our favorite movie. My family lives 3 hours away in Houston and it kills me to live to so far. However, every family gathering-which is really for any good occasion-we have our immediate family of Aunts, Uncles, Cousins, Grandparents, that's about 25-30 people. When you add in the extended family of my dad's Cousins, Aunts, Uncles, etc. we have close to 100. My husband's family is back in California, and they talk on the phone just on holidays for like 5 minutes (not saying white people do this, but showing the way our lives concur with the movie). He has no idea his cousin's names and it's been years since he's seen Grandparents. In my family, my cousin's are like brothers and sisters, aunts and uncles are like second parents. My husband STILL can't get all my aunt's names right, and can't figure out why my cousin Stephanie is like a 3rd cousin, once removed, but we keep in touch like first cousins. What he does like is when all us women make sure the men have their plates at dinner first. Funny, we're not like that in real life at all, but at supper, we go back into habit of fixing the guys plates so they don't miss the game.

It's kind of funny, my husband looks alot like Matthew Perry. MP has always been my favorite actor-even while I was married. So one night we were in a coffee bar with another couple and these girls were giggling in the corner. When my friend's husband got up one of the girls came up to him and said, "Your friend (my husband) looks just like Chandler on Friends!" We all had a good laugh out of that one, then later when we got home I looked and was like, "You kind of do!" So now it's a big joke. Then this movie comes out-however-I can't say I look like Salma.

Huge post, I know, but just wanted to reiterate that, yes, many Hispanic families are like this. My dad looks alot like Edward James Olmos does in the movie, just not as agressive, more laid back, but is very serious about his little girl. When my husband asked me to marry him, I was happy, said yes, then immediately said, "Did you ask my dad first?"

I'm sure I'll notice more similarities, if so, I'll come back and post. Thanks for letting me tell my point!

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Great post! Hope you folks are still married!

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Edward James Olmos is NOT in Fools Rush In....

The dad is played by Tomás Milián, a very reliabe veteran Cuban actor. Watch him Sydney Pollack's Havana, or Andy Garcia's The Lost City

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what a lovely post. Not long enough! Loved it and you know I posted in another comment that I loved, loved the family togetherness of this movie. Family is everything. I get the cousins thing. I am French Canadian and I have cousins who are cousins, no matter what!

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Yeah my Dad and my brother rode a donkey in mexico a few years ago. There are places like her grandmothers where there is still no electricity. And my family is very similar to hers. Lots of gun toting guys and women serving the men their plates, etc. etc.

"When I see you, I don't know why, but I remember.....Him." H.A.T.E.

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You forgot to mention another, and not the least:

When Alex's parents see Isabel for the first time, they think she is the house cleaner...

I was a bit shocked to see how many stereotypes were used in this movie, and how it was ssssoooooooo predictable (probably because of all these stupid stereotypes).

I mean, for some examples: (these are not only stereotypes, but fast-easy-written-and-food-for-the-masses-scenario too)

- Alex has a friend who encourages him to divorce and to have fun with girls.

- Alex's parents are white and have money (they wear polos, travel by helicopter, have nice haircuts) vs. Isabel's parents are latinos and poor.

- Alex prefers the poor latina to the rich white girl.

- Alex and Isabel are getting angry for matters of religion and faith.

- Isabel says she's going to abort, but finally doesn't (and doesn't tell Alex).

- When Alex turns back to Mexico, of course, Isabel has already left.

- Isabel's grandmother gives her a lecture, and that's what make her understand what she has to do.

- Isabel shows Alex the Grand-Canyon, and tells a typical story about "We are all the same, no matter where we live".

The problem is not that they showed that in Mexico you travel by donkey. The problem is that they tried to make it funny, like something strange. In addition, the way Perry was exaggerating the movements was ridiculous. Even not funny. (Matthew Perry trying to play Jim Carrey is not funny).

All this was so loud and heavy ! Watching this movie this evening, I couldn't stop asking myself "For whom this movie was written ?"...

I forgot one of the most stupid stereotype:
Isabel dancing on coloured and sunny music while preparing the meal.

Anyway, I enjoyed a lot the landscapes.

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Um, Isabel NEVER said she was going to abort? Where on earth did you get THAT from?!?!?? At the start, she was adamant she was keeping the baby, plus, she is a staunch Catholic. Abortion NEEVVVVEERRR entered her mind. It was ALEX that wanted her to have an abortion. Unless you are thinking of when she was in the hospital, where the dialogue made clear that had a medical emergency and MISCARRIED (hence there is no more baby - she LOST THE BABY). You don't get admitted to hospital, for an abortion. The dialogue and scenes made it clear she had problems with her health and told Alex she miscarried. NOT aborted!!



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> Are there any? If so exactly what examples?

I'm not sure if this is a stereotype, but that father is one serious misogynist!

When he arrives at the work site and yells at the guy, he basically says the guy needs *his* permission to marry the daughter, and calls the guy a thief.

So, basically, he's saying that a grown woman can't make a decision by herself. She has to get permission from a 'man' first. Is she allowed to make any decisions on her own, or does she have to ask his permission for everything. Does he tell her what, when, and where to eat? Whom to date? Where to work?

Further, by calling the guy a thief, he's basically saying the woman isn't a person, she's *property* ! He's saying he *owns* her! In that case, how much would he charge for her? What value does he assign to her? Is she worth more than three goats, for example?

And ... what is wrong with the wife and sisters and all the other women in the group. How can they stay around this archaic sicko? If they had any respect for women in general, or themselves in particular, they'd refuse to be around that creature. (I cannot, in good conscience, use the term 'man' for that thing) They should certainly never allow that thing to be part of their daughters' lives, or let that thing ever procreate again.

Ah ... rant over. Thank you for letting me vent.

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err idk about you but most fathers are protective of their daughters, especially if she's his only girl. no father wants to think that their little baby is out there in the world potentially making out with someone let alone having sex, its normal, this isnt anything to do with him being a misogynist =/

as far as the property thing goes, fathers dont want their daughters to grow up and not need them anymore, they dont see them as property. and to say that the women in this movie shouldnt be around him is just, honestly stupid. hes not some crazy psychotic man, youre looking wayyyy too into this, we let yall think what you want and then do what we will anyway lol thats just how it is.

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Lets just poke a little fun at people and things and cultural differences without calling someone a sicko mysogenist etc etc? There are as many stereotypes about the WASPs in the movie as there are the Latinos.

This movie has so many similarities and parallels of my own marriage of 26 years. She is Latina and I am the WASP. The dinner at the Fuentes was such a reminder of my first vists to my in-laws and their extended family. I didn't come from rich parents, but my family dynamic was similar to Alex and I much prefer my wife's family. They've accepted me and I love them dearly.

The scene on the boat at Cinco De Mayo where they discuss religion is a crack up for me. "of course the baby will have to be Catholic" and Mr. Whitman says "and what exactly is wrong with Presbyterian?" Mrs. Fuentes says "Presyterian is not really a religion." My sister-in-law said almost exactly the same thing when she was told I was Protestant. "Protestant is not really a religion"

Movies exagerate, don't get so shook up that the donkey ride was overdone. It's pretty damn funny to see whitebread Danny Whitman from New Canaan Connecticut ride a donkey. It wasn't meant to be degrading to poor people in Mexico who have to ride donkeys. Geez, lighten up a little. Even the two Mexican men they pass are laughing hysterically at the sight of Danny riding a donkey.

If you didn't like Mr. Fuentes character then you wouldn't think much of my father-in-law, Uncle Robert, or Uncle Abe, but I can tell you that even though they have the same cultural background and some of the same attitudes as Mr. Fuentes they are good, decent men, with hearts of gold, who far from perfect have always loved and cared for their families.

I love this movie. I love Salma Hayek. I don't care for Matthew Perry but I can't criticize his performance in this particular movie. It was just what this story line needed.

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The scene on the boat at Cinco De Mayo where they discuss religion is a crack up for me. "of course the baby will have to be Catholic" and Mr. Whitman says "and what exactly is wrong with Presbyterian?" Mrs. Fuentes says "Presyterian is not really a religion." My sister-in-law said almost exactly the same thing when she was told I was Protestant. "Protestant is not really a religion"


i'm half mexican, half costa rican, and even though my sister had a catholic priest at her wedding, it was outdoors at a vineyard so my mom swears up and down it didn't count. lol

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Are there any? If so exactly what examples?

I'm not sure if this is a stereotype, but that father is one serious misogynist!

When he arrives at the work site and yells at the guy, he basically says the guy needs *his* permission to marry the daughter, and calls the guy a thief.

So, basically, he's saying that a grown woman can't make a decision by herself. She has to get permission from a 'man' first. Is she allowed to make any decisions on her own, or does she have to ask his permission for everything. Does he tell her what, when, and where to eat? Whom to date? Where to work?

Further, by calling the guy a thief, he's basically saying the woman isn't a person, she's *property* ! He's saying he *owns* her! In that case, how much would he charge for her? What value does he assign to her? Is she worth more than three goats, for example?

And ... what is wrong with the wife and sisters and all the other women in the group. How can they stay around this archaic sicko? If they had any respect for women in general, or themselves in particular, they'd refuse to be around that creature. (I cannot, in good conscience, use the term 'man' for that thing) They should certainly never allow that thing to be part of their daughters' lives, or let that thing ever procreate again.

Ah ... rant over. Thank you for letting me vent.


that's not misogyny, that's called being old fashioned and a gentlemen. have you ever heard of a dowry? thank god they didn't have one in this movie or you would have keeled over and died.

I'm half mexican, half costa rican so i don't think of this movie as much of a stereotype as much as it's MY LIFE STORY. lol

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that the lady is 'fiery'. and speaks spanish.




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