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Anti Conspiracy movie! Warning!


The whole character of Mel Gibson, the crazy, weird, lonely guy who does nothing else than collecting information to make sense of what is happening around them.

That's what they want you to think the conspiracy theorists are.

They want you to belief these theories are made up by wackos while the truth is actually the opposite. Conspiracy theorists are just very skeptic but intelligent thinkers who are actually RESEARCHING information instead of just swallowing what the media has to say about it.

Then the movie gets rediculas after around 30 minutes, making the viewers very aware of the fact that these theories are way weird to be treu in real life.

Why belief the government while the people with the most power on this earth are actually politicians in the first place?

Just THINK on your own.


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Dude, the movie is about a conspiracy theorist who is right after all...

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"Conspiracy theorists are just very skeptic but intelligent thinkers who are actually RESEARCHING information instead of just swallowing what the media has to say about it. "

No, conspiracy theorists reject everything the media & government says & will make up theories to back their claims & reject any piece of evidence that points out that their "research" is wrong. They're very closed-minded people & are not skeptical in the least. To be skeptical means to listen to both sides & keep an open-mind. Conspiracy theorists are unable to do that. They have their belief & will only believe in "evidence" that supports the belief. They will also insult & berate anyone who believes otherwise. They believe themselves to be intelligent & use these conspiracies to make it seem like they are smarter than the people who believe in the media & government.
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I rarely see conspiracy theorists look for falsifiability in their own theories.

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They only made this fictional movie so people would associate real conspiracy theories as being fiction too. Either that or they are just laughing in the conspiracy theorists faces saying "Yes, we exist. What do you think you're going to do? We'll kill you if you try to get in our way."

Come, fly the teeth of the wind. Share my wings.

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Who trusts the C.I.A.? It should have never been created.





Obama is a war criminal. Romney is a liberal democrat.
Ron Paul 2012!

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Conspiracy theorists question consensus reality by examining evidence in detail. Some theorists come to conclusions which are provocative and bewildering yet still retain a sense of plausibility. Disinformation is widely used to discredit such theorists by mixing factual information with misleading data.

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Just consider that the gov. will use you, then toss you out there twisting in the wind like Chicken Little. Some questionable gems like, Bay of Pigs, Gary Powers U2, Oliver North, Nixon was willing to throw some of his gang under the bus, Oswald was a patsy (what an odd thing to say). Seeing the gov. trash an economy, what a few peeps?

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Weird, I thought this was a recent post.

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While not every conspiracy theorist is a whackjob, not every conspiracy theorist is sane and rational either. The thing is, anyone can say anything they want, they can make up wild claims about clandestine goings on and they never need solid proof, just stuff like "Durr.. 9/11 happened on 9/11.. which is like 911, the number you call for emergencies".

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Lol you sound like my dad who happens to be a big conspiracy theorist.

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To be a conspiracy theorist first you have to develop a theory, then ONLY search for the evidence to support a theory, & then reject all the other evidence that disproves it.

You have to essentially do the opposite of the Scientific Method.

And then you have to readily accept a lack of evidence as proof while discounting hard evidence that disproves the theory.

The information that you research is then left in an echo chamber, making it essentially very easy to believe that somehow a few thousand people broke into the WTC & wired it with explosives without anyone noticing, a few dozen more hijacked jets to use as decoys, a few dozen more shot missiles at the WTC while a few hundred worked on the Pentagon and yet hundreds more paid off the global news...

And that is easier then, in their minds, than the answer to a simple question: In the Age of Wikileaks, an Age that makes it easier to leak information than the Pentagon Paper Era, why did no one come forward?

You have to be a special kind of short bus riding crazy to believe in modern day conspiracy theories.

"Few people understand the psychology of dealing with a highway traffic cop."

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So since 9/11 was brought up...

When the 9/11 Commission Report was released it had lots of 'plot holes' and what seemed like missing information. I am not a theorist nor do I believe that report is 100% truthful. I am a normal citizen who has questions and wonder about the validity of that report. Why is someone negatively labeled when they don't believe everything the government says? Are we expected to take their word and move on? Even if things don't add up?

For example, if my bank charges me a fee that I know I did not incur am I supposed to leave it and pay it because the bank is always right and never makes mistakes? No, most of us will call the bank, explain the situation and get it corrected. The bank (which is made of humans working on computers) made a mistake just like the government can. Unfortunately, we can't just call the government and get a simple answer like this example.

This is why I wonder why the 9/11 Family Steering Committee was created. A group of family members of the actual fallen victims that day who also didn't believe the information from the Commission Report who sought an independent investigation. They also had a long list of specific questions for the government found here: http://www.911independentcommission.org/questions.html

As far as the collapse of the 3 buildings that day in NY; yes, some don't know a third building (WTC 7) which suffered no impact at all fell just like Towers 1 and 2; is questionable too. We saw how the 3 buildings fell the same way in pancake fashion even though each building was impacted differently. The buildings were constructed on heavy duty fireproof steel so it would be expected that the top parts impacted (above aircraft crash) should have tipped over to the side of impact and the bottom part should have at least remained in place. There are architects and engineers who can confirm this yet it's not questioned. WTC7 was NOT hit by an aircraft but fell the same exact way as the Towers. Does this seem logical to you?
Furthermore, there are videos of first responders and others who were present who were told that WTC7 is coming down ('being pulled' which is a demolition expression). Also, both BBC World (Jane Standley) and CNN (Aaron Brown) reported the collapse of WTC7 before it actually happened. How did the media already know beforehand? Why wasn't any of this in the 9/11 Commission Report?

Lastly, there is the Pentagon crash. Many have pointed out the inconsistencies between the plane measurements and the damage that was actually done to that building. The Pentagon is supposed to have state of the art heavy surveillance at all times. So what happened that day? Did they turn it off? There is testimony from then Secretary of Transportation Norman Mineta who testified the following at the 9/11 Commission: "There was a young man who had come in and said to the vice president, 'The plane is 50 miles out. The plane is 30 miles out.' And when it got down to, 'The plane is 10 miles out,' the young man also said to the vice president, 'Do the orders still stand?' And the vice president turned and whipped his neck around and said, 'Of course the orders still stand. Have you heard anything to the contrary?' Well, at the time I didn't know what all that meant." This testimony was also NOT in the 9/11 Commission Report. Are you starting to see a pattern?

I only noted a few points to hopefully get you questioning things around you. Always do your own research and find out what makes sense to you. To answer the person above, I found many 'leaks' to the events that happened that day and presented just a few. People have come forward but you are either omitted or you are labeled a conspiracy theorist and lose credibility instantly. There have been many historical events where the government's actions have been suspicious and controversial from wars to assassinations. But to know why or for what purpose, we may never know the truth...

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See, there you go, what you are doing is ignoring all the information that disproves your theory...it goes against the Scientific Method.

If you want to prove you are right, so the world believes it, you have to be willing to accept the evidence that disproves what you are saying and adjust the theory to account for, until you come to a point where it is either disproved or proven.

By cherry picking the details like you are doing, then using false analogies to support your claim, you aren't proving anything...except that you aren't willing to actually test your hypothesis.

"Few people understand the psychology of dealing with a highway traffic cop."

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