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lawyer said Poe would serve for 1 year, but he served 7. howcome?


lawyer told Poe that if he pleaded guilty he would serve for 1 year, but Poe served 7. why did it happen?

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Considering Poe never should have been charged in the first place on the grounds of SELF DEFENSE, I'd say it's because he's the worst lawyer who ever lived.

Just goes to show you. Don't trust your soul to no backwoods southern lawyer, 'cause the judge in the town's got bloodstains on his hands.

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Thanks Vicki Lawrence ... Hahahaha

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Classic!

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I was surprised too. Usually pleas like that involve a binding deal, hence plea deal.
I was also surprised it was a federal case. Was that bar's parking lot (inexplicably adjacent to an oil rig) on federal land or something?

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Its not self defense when you can just get in your car and leave. He chose to fight them.

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He couldn't just leave when they were beating the crap out of him. That was a classic case of self-defense.

Reportin' live for Black TV: White folks are dead, we gettin' the f*@# outta here!

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He couldn't just leave when they were beating the crap out of him. That was a classic case of self-defense.


You need to watch the film again. He was at his car with the door open, and his wife was already inside, he was about to get in and he turned around and went after the dickheads who were still behind a fence, nowhere near him and not threat to anything but his self-esteem at that point.

It was ego self-defense.

Did they deserve an ass whoopin? Yes. Do I think he should be convicted? No.

But that is not the law and there was nothing in this film that showed true legal self defense. It showed a man who was trained in lethal combat choose to engage and assault the bullies instead of just going home and *beep* his wife.

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If his car stalled and they came at him, then it was self defense, what he should have done was pull a wire and say to the court, the drunk disabled my car and try to engage me and my pregnant wife, it would have looked better. Ah, whatever.

Spoiler alert for them spoil sports out there! Y'all like spoiled milk, stop crying over it!

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A Judge does not have to respect any type of plea deal. The judge went harder on Poe because he was military and felt he should have handled the situation better than any normal civilian as he was trained in deadly force. Not saying that is the right ruling, but that was the justification.

It's a horror film. People live, people die and you'd better start running!-Scre4m

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They do have to respect an actual plea deal. In fact they actually sign off on it. They can always reject any plea deal but in that case the defendant is free to take his chances and plead not guilty.

They don't have to respect a defendant pleading guilty based on his lawyer's suggestion without a deal in place though.

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If he plead guilty the lawyer said he would serve a year but Poe said he would not plead guilty so when they found him guilty the sentence was longer.

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i thought he plead guilty

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"i thought he plead guilty"

He did; to manslaughter.

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That was the only thing they charged him with.

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His public defender was an alcoholic that didn't give a *beep* I'm pretty sure the bright red nose and bags under his eyes are a nod to this.

Welcome to the world of criminal defense.

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"Even if it is incorrectly."

And there was no appeal? LOL!

But there couldn't have been; other wise the movie might not have happened.

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Although I agree the whole court proceedings were a crock, that was and is typical justice in the south

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Nothing makes a lot of sense in this crap movie.

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This is a great movie.

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Bad lawyer

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