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Why do people hate this movie so much?


Sure it's not a great movie but I enjoyed it since it was entertaining, flowed at a fast pace and it's a fun movie to watch, I tend to like movies that are a little on the kooky side.

I give Batman & Robin a 7/10

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I think it is certain age groups who don’t like it. It seems to be everyone who was a teenager or older when it first came out in 1997 hates it while those who were younger at that time or didn’t exist yet like it today. Also there are those who think Batman has to be dark and serious and can’t stand campiness

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It is badly made with it feeling like gay campy, being a rehash of Batman Forever and having an actor who was playing himself as both Batman and Bruce Wayne.

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I don't think that it was so much that Batman & Robin was campy. I mean, Tim Burton's movies (especially Batman Returns) had in their own way, campy, fantastical, larger-than-life elements. I mean, Burton after-all, was initially an animated for Disney and his films often times, feel like live-action cartoons.

The problem with Batman & Robin is that the campiness wasn't played "straight". What I mean is that the film doesn't seem to have an internal logic if that makes sense. There's for example, no reason for Batman to pull out a credit card other than for the sake of a cheap sight gag. There are way too many non-sequiturs like that in the movie, that don't really do anything to further the plot or make sense within the context of the scenes.

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The campy Batman feels ancient, it isn't where Batman is at, it worked at the time of Adam West Batman but since then a lot had changed.

When the movies where coming out the comics had matured a great deal with Frank Miller's stuff, A Death In The Family, The Killing Joke and Knightfall.

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Had the Tim Burton Batman movies not existed, this one might have had a chance. Nobody wanted to see a "campy" Batman by the time this was released.

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Forever and B&R was a slap in the face by the fans who invested in Tim Burton and Michael Keaton.

When B&R came out everyone was hoping they would've returned the franchise back to it's darker roots, they didn't do that they went the way it is, the camp trend of the 90s was ending.

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I saw all four at the cinema when they first came out.

Batman ~ 8/10
Batman Returns ~ 9/10
Batman Forever ~ 7/10 then, 6/10 now
Batman & Robin ~ 3/10. I hate it with a passion. Complete about turn from the darker aspect which Burton had given us and which fans had wanted to see oncreen for so long. Clooney looked embarrassed in the suit (after seeing it I realised why - at least he had the good grace to apologise - several times - for his part in this crappy movie).

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Because Clooney lacked the edge the play Wayne. It was just too goofy.

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He was just playing himself both as Batman and Bruce Wayne.

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He absolutely was. With Keaton and Bale I could buy that someone might not recognise them, but with Clooney they'd be saying 'Hey, that's Bruce Wayne!' in a second.

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Clooney is a flashy starry guy compared to Keaton or Bale, and he has too much of a Stallone/Mel Gibson type voice to be Batman.

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I had no problem with his Bruce Wayne. I thought he made a pretty good Bruce Wayne. But Batman? Noooo.

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Bruce Wayne shouldn't sound like a superhero what's so ever, Keaton and Bale doesn't look or sound like a superhero but guys who would need to dress up as a bat for effect.

Clooney has this dead face expression and when you put the cowl on him he looks off compared to Keaton or Bale.

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Because we all want to see Arnold as the good guy and not the bad guy. Same reason why many hate The Terminator

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Lol! You made me laugh, Milsey! The problem wasn't that Arnold was the bad guy. It was just that casting someone like him as Mr. Freeze is just dumb. Arnold isn't good at playing scientists.

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He isn't good at comedies either. But hes great as John Matrix. Father of the year in 1985

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You just have to have been there in 1997 to understand how big the hype was for this movie which made it seem so massively disappointing. Plus it was a movie made to sell toys.

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