Who was more evil? Ivan Korshunov or the Joker from the Dark Knight?
Who was more evil? Korshunov or the Joker
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shareI really am tired of this. Whenever I visit any hit action movie's Message Board, there has to be at least one thread started by someone who compares that movie to one of Nolan's Batman movies. I wouldn't be surprised if someone posted in "Schindler's List" Message Board asking, "Who was more evil? Amon Goeth or the Joker from Dark Knight?"
Some folks are die-hard fans of Nolan's Batman movies, I get it and that's cool with me but do they have to compare every movie with them? Nolan's Batman movies aren't some sort of Hollywood benchmark against which all movies must be compared.
Just for a second, imagine if someone had posted this exact thread that you have started, in the "Dark Knight" Message Board. How ridiculous would it appear?
Mr McGee, don't make me angry. You wouldn't like me when I'm angry!
Oh really? I haven't seen any of those threads apart from here so maybe you would like to provide links to back up your statement there.
We will destroy Gotham.....Let the Games begin!
Oh really?
I haven't seen any of those threads apart from here ...
so maybe you would like to provide links to back up your statement there.
I checked a few of those boards and hardly found any of what you are talking about i think you are exaggerating a bit there.
The OP didn't seem like a troll or a fanboy to me really. Maybe either a fan of both movies or a fan of Gary Oldman in both movies who thought they both had an evil antagonist and wanted peoples opinion on who was the most despicable? Maybe you should check his post history before jumping all over his post with the "oh i'm so sick of this" kind of attitude.
Don't like it? Don't read it, simple as.
What has the fact that i like the Dark Knight got to do with this? I also love Kubrick, Tarantino, Scorsese and quite a few others along with Mr Nolan. I could just as easily jump all over your avatar and say "you must be a Burton fan and hate anything to do with TDK blah blah blah".
I'm a fan of Burton as well for what it's worth.
We will destroy Gotham.....Let the Games begin!
I checked a few of those boards and hardly found any of what you are talking about i think you are exaggerating a bit there.
The OP didn't seem like a troll or a fanboy to me really.
Maybe either a fan of both movies or a fan of Gary Oldman in both movies who thought they both had an evil antagonist and wanted peoples opinion on who was the most despicable?
Don't like it? Don't read it, simple as.
What has the fact that i like the Dark Knight got to do with this?
I could just as easily jump all over your avatar and say "you must be a Burton fan and hate anything to do with TDK blah blah blah".
I'm a fan of Burton as well for what it's worth.
The Joker was crap in DK. All he did was destruction. Korshunov was a great villain.
shareThe Joker would kill anyone and not show any remorse. He would probably be laughing maniacally while standing over the dead body. He was the living embodiment of psychotic. And as such, is he truly evil because of his insanity?
Korshunov was also a ruthless killer. He was cold, calculating, and deliberate. He would kill anyone if it served his purpose. He would have blown the President's daughter's head off in front of her mother and father to get what he wants. He doesn't show much remorse either. After executing Jack Dogherty, Korshunov makes a glib remark about Dogherty being an excellent negotiator.
It's hard to say who is more evil. I suppose it comes down to motivations. Korshunov is motivated by patriotism. He wants Russia to be one great nation again, and he's willing to go to extremes to see that that happens. The Joker has more self-interests like greed or a vendetta against Batman, etc. So despite his insanity, I would say the Joker is more evil because he kills for selfish reasons and I suspect he finds killing more pleasurable than Korshunov does.
As an aside, it seems weird trying to justify murder. Murder is murder.
Totally agree with you. Couldn't agree with you more. Because at least Korshunov had a motivation. Joker was killing for his own pleasure. So I totally agree with you on that. I think that Korshunov wanted what he felt was for the best interest of his country, but the methods that he used were evil.
shareThe Joker. Korshunov had a cause. He was a zealous patriot who could justify anything with his love for his country.
The Joker killed people and wreaked destruction because he felt like it.
Both are bad people, but at least Korshunov has a motivation. In his mind, he is a patriot fighting for his country.
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Totally agree with you. Korshunov had a motivation whereas the Joker was killing people just for his own amusement. The Joker was far worse. I'm glad that we agree on that.
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