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Was Korshunov evil or was he misunderstood?


I mean he was fighting for his country. And he would only kill if his demands were not met. So was he evil or was he just misunderstood? What do you think?

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he just needed some better vodka.



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Really. Was he evil or misunderstood?

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Russia is a complicated country, he's not incorrect, it is run about gangsters and crooks. The state is as bad as Korshunov. It's easier to get rid of a terrorist than a corrupt govt. The whole thing is infected with a kinda virus. So now i don't think he's evil but he's completely, misguided and a idealogical zealot. You couldn't really talk to him rationally. If he didn't look like gary oldman i wouldn't care much about him.

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Evil. He murdered innocent people.

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Which innocent people did he murder other than the ones on the plane?

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I think you need to go back and reread your question. He killed innocent people. The innocent people he killed were on the plane. Therefore when I talk about him killing innocent people I am referring to the innocent people he killed on the plane.

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Misunderstood. Not everything he did was right but he was fighting for a good cause.

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As with all terrorists, he's on the wrong side of history. He's probably misunderstood and resorting to "evil" tactics which will cost him the moral high ground.

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I'd say more towards misunderstood. He may be wrong in his tactics and ultra-patriotism but he is right that Russia has a lot of problem. Many (mostly from Western Europe or the USA) may hate to admit it but Russia and other post-soviet states are in a worse state than they were during the USSR especially in regards to poverty and crime.

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This is not true...in the last days of the USSR even the food supply was an issue.
Corruption and police related violance has become a problem since Putin has taken over.

Many police officer had to serve in Chechnya what brutalized them.
AS for the corruption: the justice has become a cue ball of Putin, and it is also Putin who puts his people in the key positions of the Russian economy.


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This is not true...in the last days of the USSR even the food supply was an issue.


Some could argue because they were heading towards the capitalism of modern Russia though, and in any case poverty, crime and violence is worse in modern Russia. Putin is a gangster so it is no surprise to me that there has been a rise in crime. Russia didn't sort out its problems, it rushed in totally the wrong directions. Instead of giving more freedom of expression coupled with more control of the industry for workers and less centralized government authority, they decided to go capitalist which has made unemployment heavier... just as it did in former East Germany. For its faults, unemployment was not one of them in the DDR. Most East Germans miss the DDR for that problem, even if most are happy that they can be unified with their brothers.

That being said, I am do not support the fascist coup in the Ukraine and support all of Russia's efforts against them, just as I supported their defense of South Ossetia from Georgian aggression and violence.



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Evil. If he got what he wanted, he'd show his true colors and stop talking about what he believed. It's all in the "I got parachute" bit.

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Initially I found him to be misunderstood because he was representing himself as someone who meant no harm to the people on board as long as he got what he wanted and felt was best for his country. He made good points to the President's daughter and the President himself about how he and the President were not too different. Also, airplane hijackers that don't intentionally crash planes into large buildings seem like reasonable people in the post-9/11 days.

However, he became evil when he revealed that he was not going to free the hostages even after Radek was released. That's when all bets were off, and Korshunov got the ass-kicking he deserved.

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Totally agree. By the way who was more evil? Korshunov or Wah Sing Ku from Lethal Weapon 4?

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He executed innocent people and was going to kill a young girl. You're an idiot if you think he was misunderstood.

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By the way who was more evil? Korshunov or Wah Sing Ku from Lethal Weapon 4? Also Korshunov didn't kill the young girl because he got what he wanted. I mean he wouldn't hurt anyone if he got what he wanted. Am I right? I mean he spared the girl after the president negotiated.

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He still would have killed her if he didn't cooperate. He also executed an innocent woman who by his own admission was a nice person, and did not deserve to die.

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Who was more evil? Korshunov or Wah Sing Ku from Lethal Weapon 4? And who was more evil? Korshunov or the Joker from The Dark Knight?

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"I mean he wouldn't hurt anyone if he got what he wanted."

Oh, okay. As long as he only murders people so he can get what he wants, he's clearly just misunderstood. Killing innocent people just so you can get what you want isn't the very definition of "evil" at all!

I gather you'd think it was fine for someone to hurt you or kill your loved ones, if they only did it to get what they wanted?

You are not right. You are wrong. Good, not-evil people do not consider other people to be worthless pawns who it's perfectly fine to kill if doing so will get you something you want. Good, not-evil people do not point guns at twelve-year-old girls and prepare to pull the trigger just because they want something and consider their desires more important than anything or anyone else.

Jesus, are you seriously asking this? What is wrong with you?

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Who do you think was more evil? Korshunov or the Joker from The Dark Knight?

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Oh, okay. As long as he only murders people so he can get what he wants, he's clearly just misunderstood. Killing innocent people just so you can get what you want isn't the very definition of "evil" at all!

No, in 2016 it isn't anymore. Not when real-life airplane hijackers in the same position as Korshunov decide to take that plane and use it as a weapon to kill thousands more innocent people on the ground in addition to those on board, without providing our government with any opportunities for negotiation. Not when people with access to automatic weapons go into gay nightclubs and just shoot everyone on the spot. Korshunov had control of a plane and all of the automatic weapons in it and did nothing close to what Mohamed Atta or Omar Mateen did. No one is saying Korshunov was a good man. He was a bad man. But evil is a harsh word that is usually reserved for the other guys I mentioned or for people like Hitler, Mao, Stalin, etc.

Korshunov could have killed innocent people on any other flight if that was all he wanted to do (assuming he was crafty enough to somehow get automatic weapons onto a regular flight). But the reason he boarded Air Force One was because his objective was not to kill innocent people, his objective was to put a gun to President Marshall's head and force him to release Radek. If he or his men had gotten hold of the President when they first took over the plane he wouldn't have given a rat's ass if all the other passengers escaped, and might have even preferred it that way so as to avoid anyone else being the savior of the plane. It wasn't until he was under the impression that the President escaped that he felt the other hostages were the only bargaining chips he had left. He had a much happier tone in his voice when he declared to the Veep that he held the President hostage than when he had 50 people who were not the President.

With all the horrible things that were said about Radek, I wonder if Korshunov really felt his country would be better off with Radek in charge again. Or, was he just trying to get 15 minutes of fame by getting the President to renege on his way too cocky "we will not negotiate" speech?

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What the hell is wrong with you? He killed innocent people to get what he wanted, and his takeover began with gunning down lots of innocent men, including the pilots, before he even started threatening hostages. He’s totally evil and your excuses for his actions are creepy.

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