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why did William H Macy's character have to die?


I enjoy this movie but I can't really watch the ending because of this. William H. Macy's character was a true hero. He saved the president, came up with the idea of the parachutes and helped the President fly the plane, and his reward? Getting shot to death and dying along with the traitor agent while everyone else gets saved? WTF! I mean the movie was close to ending did they have to kill him too? And nobody mentions him at all despite all the heroic things he did.

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@ShriekoftheVulture Come on, we're talking about William H. Macy here - the ultimate sad sack. You can't expect him to get off scot-free.

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I wish WHM lived in this movie but was dinosaur chow in Jurassic Park 3.

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I felt bad for his character too, but then, in real life you don't get a pass just because you are noble :) Crap can happen to anyone.

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my guess: he smelled bad.



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It was a tough pill to swallow, but my guess is that it was intended to make the viewer truely dislike and have distain for Gibbs' character. Up to that point everyone knew he was bad, but it was a final reminder of the severity of his role and just how much damage he really did. Bear in mind he really didn't do anything to piss anyone off since much earlier in the movie. It was intended to really make everyone feel happy when he was finally killed off.

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and very large pill too.



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That part bothers me too.....

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This is a very violent and mean-spirited movie really. I mean I know it's the bad guys who do the killing and they all get what they deserve in the end but...I don't know. It's difficult for me to enjoy it really.

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I rewatched the movie again and honestly his death ruins the entire movie for me. Such a cruel, pointless death and the fact no one mentions him after despite all the heroic deeds he did just made me feel sick

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I agree with your take on it, Shriek, but ultimately it's Hollywood shorthand -- they didn't have a spot in the script to give the Traitor a motivation or explanation for his actions, so they deal with it by simply making him a turd of a person and having him kill one of the good guys unreasonably. Most of the audience goes out of the cinema without giving it a second thought.

If there'd been some kind of epilogue, I'm sure he would have been mentioned. But by that point the film was running low on fuel as well, so I guess they opted for the quick close.



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I didn't feel sorry for him for many reasons:
- ever since the hi-jacking started, he knew his life was hanging on a thread
- he didn't flinch, he kept eye-contact with his killer and tried at least a last desperate move in the name of duty, anyway, he faced death and died as a hero
- it was a situation where only one man could be saved so he was willing to let the President go anyway... and die, so by the time of his death, his chances of survival have considerably shrunk, and maybe he would have died a much painful death hed he stayed in the plane and ... waited. I

But the reason why I didn't feel sorry for him is because I felt much sorrier for the poor guy who was rescuing them, in fact, I couldn't put his death out of my mind for the rest of the film ;
- here's a young man who's saving people and is doing one hell of a job at that
- he probably pictures himself receiving a medal with Dad, Mom and his brother Joshua in the audience
- he knows he's risking his life but he expect a 'natural' accident, the rescue belongs to the 'resolution' part, terrorists were killed, so he didn't really consider the possibility of being killed
- he didn't even have time to see his death coming, one second he's asking the President to come, and the second after, a bullet ejects him from the plan, and he vanishes into the sea like a Kleenex thrown in a trashcan. WTF

For some reason, at that point I didn't even care for anyone to die or survive, I know innocent people ought to die in such movies, but that very death upset me.

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By that point, his fate was sealed. He was already going to die since they only had time for one more trip before the plane crashed into the water. If it weren't for that, Gibbs wouldn't have revealed himself to be the traitor and thus, he wouldn't have been killed.

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Should have had in the script that he was saved before the plane started to crash

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