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Do you laugh when people say the comics are Canon


I read comics and watch movies and I have to laugh when some buffy fans says the comics are canon.the buffy comics folks tells us they are canon so wecan buy it. If buffy was ever rebooted or the shows comes back. I guarantee you they will ignore the comics.

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Yes, but until then, they are official continuations. That's what makes something canon.

You are sin.

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Well, the events of the comics get added to the characters' bios online, Joss himself oversees and writes them, so... I'd consider them canon.

Why don't people take the comics seriously?

The Walking Dead is based entirely on comic books.

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Because they're terrible.


"I'm in it for the power and the free robes." - Harry Stone

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Yes I agree the comics arent actually canon. Too few people actually know about them and their quality is intolerably low, especially the earliest ones. I never before or after have read a comic where I couldnt tell the identity of the characters from the drawings, or had trouble to know if the current frame showed the same or different characters than the previous one.

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Only because the story lines I've read about are absolutely farfetched and ridiculous, even for the Buffyverse. I'm assuming because you can do a lot more in comics than on television. I guess they're considered canon, but I just personally choose to ignore them. And it helps that I don't read them too...

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Your loss.

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Dawn turning into a giant, Dawn and Xander dating, Buffy dating a female slayer, a character named Twilight, killing off Giles, etc. No thanks.

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For the record, Buffy didn't date a female slayer... she just had sex with her. (probably just let Satsu go down on her)
And Twilight was a pretty intriguing villain in the beginning because we didn't know who he was under the mask.
Giles dying sucked but the series was always about changing the characters- for better or worse.
And like it or not, the comics are canon- it's not even a question. If they ever do a movie or something new for tv, the legitimacy of the comics or at least some of the plotlines might change but unless that ever happens- Joss has said the comics are canon. I laugh when people refuse to accept that just because they don't like them.

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Yeah, well, most of the same actors from the original Star Trek series lent their voice to the animated series; and I believe Gene Roddenberry was involved too. But once they went back to live action with the movies and subsequent spinoffs, they pretty much ignored it, and it isn't generally considered canon by most people.

The point of that being, it doesn't really matter who's involved, or even what they say at the time; so long as there remains the very distinct possibility that they may ever dismiss the work of the comics, it's at best pseudo-canon. Take it with a grain of salt, and if you're willing to accept it, warts and all, great, but you shouldn't expect the entire fandom to be on board with it; because it's a completely different medium, which has a major influence over the nature of the material. We can reasonable assert that had the narrative continued as a live action series, that most if not all of the stories would be completely different, just by virtue of the limitations of a live action production and the budget concerns that go with it. It seems improbable they would maintain any, much less all of the stories as hard written continuity, if it was ever revisited in a live action format, because most of the viewers aren't like to have read them nor are going to read them, just to be familiar with where the story picks up. It would be far easier, and arguably probable, to ignore the comics - just as Star Trek has done with the many novels and most of the comics that have been written about any given character or setting; or even, as I understand it, the Star Wars non-live action materials as well - and start from a reference point that is approachable to all audiences.


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I take them as canon until something else comes along

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I take them as canon until something else comes along
So you agree with the OP, they arent actually canon.

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the buffy comics are as canon as the star wars expanded universe comic series.

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So you agree with the OP, they arent actually canon.


That's not what he said at all.

Imagine that they made a new Buffy live action movie tomorrow and one year later they made yet another one that took the previous one out of continuity. Does that mean that the first movie wasn't canon for a while? No, it doesn't... The movie was canon and if there hadn't been any new movies made it would have continued to be canon.

The comics aren't any different from that.

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they're pretty much confirmed canon. Whedon himself is involved. The actual content of the comics is *interesting*. There are some highs and lows. A lot of the things in season eight (like mecha dawn, Buffy's power boost, the involvement of the us army) do seem like the writers are unloading ideas that couldn't be done with a tv budget. Season nine and ten do tone it down a bit to the series' benefit. at least the ideas are fresher than most shows than run for a decade and pretty much spiral into nowhere.

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Well they are canon so laugh all you want because it won't make it any less true.

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What does that mean though, to anyone, for something to be "canon"? I think that's an important distinction, which I haven't really given much thought beyond whether or not I should care that the events happened or not. But what does it mean to say these stories are canon (versus invariably other Buffy-verse stories that are not canon) and they implications they have for any of us?


"I'm in it for the power and the free robes." - Harry Stone

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Buffy had millions of fans. Roughly 10,000 read the comics.

Joss can say whatever he wants; the fans have spoken on how seriously they take those pieces of *beep*

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If you don't think they are cannon, then they aren't cannon. This is just a story.

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I don't care. I ignore the comics.

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Sure they're canon I guess. But I prefer how season 7 ended. The rest take place in an interesting alternate universe for me.

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