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The backstory to the 'I'd never eat here anyway' Trent diner quote

posted 16 years ago by ob-6
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During the director commentary, Liman (or Mirrone, I don't remember) said that the "I'm the Azzhole??" line when Trent is standing up in the diner was actually after the scene was supposed to cut. He was yelling at someone off camera who had rolled their eyes at his ad-libbing.

This explains why the line doesn't make sense. Obviously, if you are eating in a place, you can't tell someone "I'd never eat here". But if you are just an actor yelling at the owner or a worker in a diner you are filming in, it might make sense.

So that makes me very curious - how tense was the filming of the diner scene to make Vaugn go off like that? Obviously someone called him an "azzhole" for him to respond like that. I thought they were friends with the diner owners (and why would the owners or workers interject themselves into the shooting process anyway?). But - if Vaughn is just yelling at one of the film crew, why would he say he would never eat there? That seemed like a personal dig at someone... So it doesn't make sense to me.

Anyone have further details from behind the scenes that can clarify this?

[–] sheehys 16 years ago

this is funny... i would love to hear a response as well.

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[–] ob-6 16 years ago

Well, the director did say he was responding to someone off camera. And his first words were "*I'm* the azzhole????". So I do think someone may have called him that. Our only hope to know what really happened is to hope that Favreau chimes in :) (He has said that he reads imdb)

If you listen to what he says after that and realize he is speaking to someone in real life and saying "I would never eat here" it makes you wonder who he is talking to.

[–] youresomoney 16 years ago

I always attributed those lines to his character being drunk, and the "I'm the *beep* line being a response to the reaction he was getting from the other customers in the diner for being so belligerent and unruly. I've never watched with the directors commentary, but I have heard some not-so-friendly things about Vince Vaughn, so I can completely believe that this happened. Very interesting.

[–] ecking 16 years ago

It doesn't mean someone called him an *beep* it just means that someone may have rolled their eyes in a way that made it look like they thought he was one. Like: (mentally)"this guy's an *beep* eyes). "What are you rolling your eyes about? You think I'm some kind of *beep*
Obviously that's not what's said but I'm just making an example of how you can feel like someone thinks your an *beep* even though they didn't say anything.

[–] gbsparta48 15 years ago

The OP is entirely incorrect. Don't make posts about "insights" into movie "background stuff" when they are completely off-base.

Was he ad-libbing? Potentially. Was something going on? No.

It was funny. One poster said it best - he was playing the part of a drunk guy in diner. It is very, very, very believable (everything he said). He was drunk and making a scene. The only thing I can guess is that the OP does not drink alcohol (which is fine I don't judge) and has never been drunk in public. It is a very realistic scene. In fact, I've been drunk before and used that line in a diner after the food came and 1) it was bad and 2) I just wanted to cause a scene.

I've met Vince Vaughn in Chicago on the street (he seemed drunk, as was I) and he was very nice. Not sure where the "not-so-friendly" comments are stemming from. If anything he was a little out of it, but definitely not mean or anything.

This was a bizarre thread by the OP. I feel bad calling him out, be he totally swing and missed here.

[–] blister329 15 years ago

The OP didn't make "insights" into "background stuff." He asked a question that pertained to comments that were made by the director in the commentary. Not sure what's w/ the personal attacks or the pointless Vince Vaughn anecdote.

"They shoot horses, don't they?" RIP Sydney Pollack

[–] gbsparta48 15 years ago

No blister, you are wrong. Like the opposite of incorrect. I'm not sure what else to say other than a big "no" to everything in your post. Go read the original post before you come dancing in so late. It's really annoying when people do that. Get your facts straight.

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[–] full_can_of_beer 15 years ago

in like every VV movie he goes off on someone, its just his humour.

[–] kdmacd 11 years ago

"...wrong. Like the opposite of incorrect..."

WTF...? Since when is 'wrong' the opposite of 'incorrect'...? It's exactly LIKE incorrect!

[–] Nathan_Arizona 10 years ago

Dude, when you correct someone; you must be correct first!

Ironically, he'd grown so fat only work-out pants would fit him.

[–] nashlicona 15 years ago

Hey it's prolly just my boy Vinny cuttin it up and having a good time ya know what i mean. Let him do his thing, whatever or however the lne came about...ITS GENIUS!

[–] FilmCricket07 15 years ago

I thought he said it because he was drunk and belligerent.

[–] ob-6 15 years ago

Since noone really has an answer so far (or misunderstood that my question is based off the director's commentary) I thought I would say that one possibility that has occurred to me is that Vaughn is reacting to someone rolling their eyes at his ad-libbing (as per the DVD commentary) by using the "azzhole" line, BUT once he realizes that the cameras are still rolling, he recovers and tries to make that line make sense, by adding the "I'd never eat here anyway" comment. So maybe the "I'd never eat here anyway" is acting and is not really actually directed at a real person.

For those of you who continue to misunderstand, listen to the directors commentary. The "I'm an azzhole" line is confirmed there to be directed to a real person on the set after Vaughn thought the scene was over and is not acting.

Back to my original post, if anyone with insider info wants to shed some light, that would be very interesting.

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[–] BingoFlip20943 13 years ago

Funny thing about that line, and I just realized this (probably because of this thread) is that he starts the scene by saying "There she is, Ms personality! Nothing but smiles, every time I come in here!" about the waitress. He would never eat there, but he comes in so often he's used to a cranky waitress? Either he was just messing around about the "nothing but smiles" lady, or that line at the end was improvised. Because they don't make so much sense together.

[–] jslavik 13 years ago

I always took it that all of it happened as a result of his being drunk. The line about the waitress always smiling was simply making fun of her because she looked miserable.

[–] jonroknrol 12 years ago

I was at the National Association of Broadcaster's convention back in 2010(it may have been 2009?) and attended an interview with the editor of this film. He talked about the fact that Vince Vaughn WAS in fact speaking to someone off camera, but if I remember right it was a producer that didn't quite "get" what he was doing with his ad libs. They liked what he did, so they used that take.

The editor was telling the story to explain the fact that sometimes you have to use the cuts you have...if I remember correctly, he was saying that the cutaways to Favreau had him watching with a straight face, but when it cut back to Vaughn you could hear Favreau laughing.

Hope that helps a little.

[–] Harmon30 12 years ago

I thought it was a funny scene but I also thought that VV came off like an obnoxious jerk. If I was the guy he yelled at in the diner I'd have popped him one.

[–] Degree7 9 years ago

If I was the guy he yelled at in the diner I'd have popped him one.

Yeah, sure you would have. ^_^

~ I'm a 21st century man and I don't wanna be here.

[–] ob-6 12 years ago

Thank you! That sound right. I would have loved to see that interview. Mirrone (the editor) is a genius in my books.

I still am confused by the "I'd never eat here" comment and wonder if he might have been talking to someone who worked at or owned the diner, or if he just realized the camera was still rolling and brilliantly recovered the scene. I guess it was the latter.

But if I ever have the chance to ask any of the guys involved in the film a question, this is what I will ask. I'm sure the set was tense since they only had one day (I think) to film a ton of important footage.

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