MovieChat Forums > Sleepers (1996) Discussion > question about ralph fuergeson

question about ralph fuergeson


Brad Pitt is his lawyer, wouldn't he recognize him as one of the kids he abused?

reply

Brad Pitt isn't his lawyer he's an ADA, except for prep work he would have had very limited dealings with RF. Secondly Nokes himself couldn't figure out who John and Tommy were even after giving him some time to think about it even though they seemed to be his pet peeves and thirdly Ferguson probably abused lots of kids all of whom he figured weren't worthy of remembering, as Tommy says to Nokes 'I can see how you might forget. We were just something for you and your friends to play with...you gave us so much more to remember you by'. Of course he didn't remember Pitt's character.

There's a moral to this story Del Boy but for the life of me I can't find it!

reply

so them not interacting much actually explains it. If he and Brad Pitt's character went over depositions together and what not, I'm sure he would have easily recognized him regardless of how many kids he abused. Or at least, find him to be familiar. The thing with Noakes at the restaurant was just like 5 minutes of interaction. I just think if you see someone every day for a period of time, you would remember having met them before, many many years before. Kind of like how a teacher remembers a good chunk of his or her students, may not remember every single name, but the face would totally ring a bell.

reply

I'm sure he would have easily recognized him regardless of how many kids he abused.
Sure is a very definitive word, how are you so sure? Just out of interest.

There's a moral to this story Del Boy but for the life of me I can't find it!

reply

First of all, I'm assuming that the kids he abused, he also interacted with them elsewhere (cafeteria, prison yard), so its not like its just he takes the kids, does his thing, and then never sees them till the next time. Maybe I have a strong memory, but I remember people even if I haven't met or interacted with them. For example, I've been out of high school for a long time, and pretty much lived else where since. When I went back home recently, I saw this other dude at the library, who seemed really really familiar. Turns out he went to my high school. We never interacted, I didn't know his name. We weren't in the same grade. We had probably just seen each other several times from a distance. Yet, I still recognized him. You just don't forget faces. Names, probably. But faces almost stayed etched in your head.

reply

You just don't forget faces.
Not in my experience. Many of my former teachers walk past me on the street even those I had a good relationship with, in fact one teacher in particular I saw a few months back didn't remember me even though I had him for two subjects for three years. Think about it, how many thousands of kids did this guy come across in his time at Wilkinsons and you maintain he should remember one? In any case it's been well documented that conscientious abusers themselves repress their crimes out of guilt. That's not just sexual abuse but even parents who physically abused their children have been known to repress their acts.

There's a moral to this story Del Boy but for the life of me I can't find it!

reply

Interesting. I guess there are definitely a lot of factors at play. But like you said, Brad Pitt's character and Ralph Fuergeson probably didn't interact that much anyways. Plus, he would be much older, his mannerisms very very different from when he was a kid, and there were several kids being abused as well.

reply

People who are bad with faces are one of the main reasons why innocent people end up in jail.

reply

So you see someone from your past and think they look familiar, but don't remember who they are, but you expect this guy to remember everything?
Logic fail

reply