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Why is no credit given to A Fistful of Dollars???

posted 17 years ago by IndustrialWaste
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Just a question. Dont get me wrong I love both of the movies, but Last Man Standing flows in the exact same direction, right down to when Eastwood gets beat down in a warehouse, and than hides in order to jump out when the other men come back so that he may escape. Even the reason he was captured in the first place. The only difference is dialogue. Not much dialogue in the Ugly Trilogy. Oh, and instead of the man with no name its John Smith. My only problem is give credit where it is obviously due.

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[–] leforcat 17 years ago

Last Man isn't a remake of A Fistful. Both films are remakes of Yojimbo, as you can read here on the site, so, I'm afraid, that's where the credit should go, only.

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[–] RX_Kingx86 17 years ago

thats because fist full of dollars is based on Kurosawa's work on Yojimbo,You can say otherwise considering im pretty positive Yojimbo was written and filmed before Eastwood's movie ever was. So the only credit that should only be given is the fact its a western, and not an ex-samurai, battling 2 rivaling Yakuza trying to take over one town.

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[–] seimus006 17 years ago

i was just wonderiing the same when i saw it

[–] timberwolf530 17 years ago

If I remember correctly, the hotel owner calls Clint's character Joe in Fistful, and the Hotel owners name is Joe in Last Man, so that is kind of a tribute there.

[–] Dachunde 17 years ago

The credits of the movie mention 'Based on a story written by some dude & Akira Kurosawa' the two who originally wrote & directed 'Yojimbo'.
No mention of RED HARVEST though, the novel that started it all.

In order;

Red Harvest - Book
Yojimbo
Fistful of Dollars
Last Man Standing.

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[–] satorujk 17 years ago

Fistfull didn't legally require the rights to remake Yojimbo in the first place, hence there can't be any affiliation without legal problems.

[–] Pharaoh-in-de-Nile 17 years ago

Which is ironic as Kurosawa didn't acquire any rights to film 'Red Harvest'!

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[–] ghoultown 16 years ago

I thought that Yomjimbo and Fistful, ect... were referencing it without actually adapting it.

[–] ContinentalOp 16 years ago

They are obviously loose adaptations of 'Red Harvest'; 'Yojimbo' is original but it is still an adaptatuon with a scene from another Hammett story 'The Glass Key' thrown in (the beating scene).

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[–] bradjanet 14 years ago

"Fistful" is an almost scene for scene western relocation of "Yojimbo" and though the connection to "Red Harvest" by Dashiel Hammett is controversial, having just re-read "Red Harvest", I can say without doubt, that the story is so similar as to be almost certainly the source of all 3 films.

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[–] Wakanohana 14 years ago

I just finished reading Dashiel Hammett's "Red Harvest" (1929), which inspired Akira Kurosawa's "Yojimbo" (1960), Sergio Leone's "Fistful of Dollars" (1964), and Walter Hill's "Last Man Standing" (1996).

When I say "inspired by" I mean that the plot of Red Harvest is not at all like any of the listed films. I could find only two directly-borrowed ideas: in the book and in every one of the films, a gang hideout is fire-bombed and the gang leader is shot as he comes out trying to surrender. And in the book and every one of the films, the main character never uses his real name. He is a detective in Red Harvest, a ronin or unemployed samurai in Yojimbo, a gunslinger in Fistful of Dollars; I think he was a Prohibition-era gunman in Last Man Standing but it's been too many years since I saw it.

Red Harvest has four separate gangs plus a corrupt police chief and a corrupt owner of the only newspaper. In all the films there are only two gangs for the Man With No Name to play against each other. Red Harvest itself would be too complicated to turn into a movie -- too many important characters, too many unlikely plot twists, too much convenient guesswork by the detective though it all makes sense.

In some ways the Coen Brothers' "Miller's Crossing" (1990), which is a complicated gangster film with a lot of plot twists, also seems inspired by Red Harvest. The character played by Gabriel Byrne ends up playing everyone against everyone else.

[–] aagar99 10 years ago

Wrong
Toho the studio that helped fund the picture Yojimbo got involved and filed a lawsuit against Leone and company, this civil lawsuit was eventually settled out of court into which Kurosawa and Toho received 15% of the film’s worldwide gross and exclusive distribution rights for Japan, Taiwan and South Korea. What’s more funny is that upon receiving the junction from Kurosawa, Leone ran around town showing off the letter to anyone he saw exclaiming, “I have Akira Kurosawa’s signature!”

Not only was Sergio Leone a plagerist but a dickhead aswell.

[–] TheEnigmaticRonin 16 years ago

- Why is no credit given to A Fistful of Dollars???

given to Yojimbo, in the opening credits

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[–] aagar99 10 years ago

A Fistful of Coincidences 21/05/2014
https://november11th.wordpress.com/tag/sergio-leone/

Let’s observe the two films back to back and try to see if Leone or Kurosawa was telling the truth: The stranger that comes into town in Yojimbo is a ronin with no name, while in AFFD a nameless gunslinger enters a town. They are both startled by the sight of a dog carrying a human hand in Yojimbo, and in AFFD a dead body is carried out by a mule. The two films have two families or clans fighting over control of their town. The two protagonists gather information from a crazed bell-ringer, they both get harassed as they enter the local tavern owned by a kindly barkeep who befriends them and helps them on their quest, both the barkeeps getting captured in the end, forcing the protagonist to rescue them in both films. Both of the characters in the film kill henchman and asks a cooper to make a couple of coffins for the men they will kill. The list continues on and on, both of the protagonists have rivals within one of the families, Yojimbo with the gun wielding Unosuke and the rifle wielding Ramon in AFFD. The only real differences really is the end, where Mifune throws a kitchen knife to incapacitate Unosuke, and the MWNN blocks all the bullets of his enemies and Ramon’s with a steel shield under his poncho. This video of the two films can really tell you right from the visuals on how this movie was plagiarized:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eyq4SsoX524&feature=youtu.be

Toho the studio that helped fund the picture got involved and filed a lawsuit against Leone and company, this civil lawsuit was eventually settled out of court into which Kurosawa and Toho received 15% of the film’s worldwide gross and exclusive distribution rights for Japan, Taiwan and South Korea.

A Fisful of Dollars is a shameful scene-for-scene unauthorized remake of Kurosawa's Yojimbo.

[–] jaime_dvette 14 years ago

Because it's a remake of Yojimbo, not FFOD.

[–] Smoku 10 years ago

thats funny. Maybe because all those movies including Kurosawa Yojimbo were based on Red Harvest novel by Dashiel Hammett?

I actually met couple of those retarded fanboys couple of years back and they were ranting how the Last man standing was a poor version of Kurosawa's movie. Those kind of idiots should really learn a thing or two or read some books before saying such atrocities.

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