' ... tell them how to bring those sons of bitches down.'
How, by having other pilots commit suicide by flying up into the hearts of the other mother ships?
shareHow, by having other pilots commit suicide by flying up into the hearts of the other mother ships?
shareThose are NOT the mother ships. There was only ONE mother ship; that was the one that Hiller and Levinson blew up with the nuclear bomb.
shareThose are NOT the mother ships. There was only ONE mother ship; that was the one that Hiller and Levinson blew up with the nuclear bomb.
Seems to be a question you're not allowed to ask, degrimstead. Buggered if I understand it, though.
I asked much the same thing myself a couple of years back, and somehow opened a massive trollfest, with huge steaming piles of shyte being dropped on me from a great height by people on very high horses. IMDb gets pretty ugly at times, but some of the replies I got were bordering on the pathological.
I still don't get what their problem was, except maybe that some people are incapable of thinking something through, and turn into psychos just because they can. In the film, all the missiles fail, even when the "primary weapon" bay is opened; the only thing that seems to work is a plane physically flying into the primary weapon, and the pilot dying, just as it's arming to fire.
So what is it they're supposed to tell the other cities as the way to defeat the weapon? As you said, the only thing that seems to fit is that other pilots die by flying into it, and only while it's arming to fire. Is that what they're really trying to say?
Gakk, I love this film, but some of the dialogue really makes no sense at all. 👀
You might very well think that. I couldn't possibly comment.
they tell the other cities that a missle must be fired at the open ship, it has no shield anymore, in russels case he comited suicide because his misile was stuck and had no other option than fly into the ship himself, if they had more misiles he wouldn't have done that and the ship was destoyed too.
shareNo zyppy, that's not true.
Everyone else knew about the shields going down -- that's what Nimzicki was so scornful of, co-ordinating a world-wide counter-strike "with a window of only a few minutes". But when it came down to it, they'd fired all their missiles, and the ship was still intact. As the Pres says, "they're just not doing enough damage".
It's only when Russell makes the primary weapon backfire on itself, that the ship blows up from the inside-out. So, as the OP pointed out, it appears the only way to actually bring the ships is for someone to fly a suicide mission.
You might very well think that. I couldn't possibly comment.
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Yeah, nice try (I'm being generous), and you got to do your habitual thing of flinging insults at people. But as you said, you're no rocket scientist. 
You might very well think that. I couldn't possibly comment.
But when it came down to it, they'd fired all their missiles, and the ship was still intact. As the Preas says, "they're just not doing enough damage".
It's only when Russell makes the primary weapon backfire on itself, that the ship blows up from the inside-out. So, as the OP pointed out, it appears the only way to actually bring the ships is for someone to fly a suicide mission.
Case tried to fire his missile, but it jammed. If it hadn't jammed and he could have hit the weapon, it would have been destroyed without a suicide run.
Casse's missile would have in all likelihood not made any real impact either. He was firing from the same crappy angle that the President did.
Casse's missile would have in all likelihood not made any real impact either. He was firing from the same crappy angle that the President did.
I think that he had a better shot after seeing where the President had shot.
If missiles were no more effective than fighter jets, then why are missiles used in battles?
No. The user above is correct.
When the stars are the only things we share
Will you be there?
-Benjamin Francis Leftwich
THANK YOU for your thoughtful response! Sorry I didn't see it till now. Yeah, being called a "troll" for simply asking an innocent question is kinda stunning. But I think the real trolls are the ones who go around accusing everyone of being trolls, ha ha, or just calling people names. Anyway I agree with everything you've said.
shareCase strictly made his decision because that thing was armed & jammed. In other words, he had seconds to determine his options: 1) send it into the ship's firing weapon and sacrifice himself, 2) eject from the ship and waste a great opportunity to use it; 3) let it blow itself up with him in it when he runs out of time and still wastes the use of it as a weapon. He committed suicide because that was only the viable option at his fingertips. Great way for him personally to make himself a hero after 20-30 years of misery and go out gracefully without the twisted cobwebs in his screwed up head.
shareThey can probably find 20 or so people willing to do that if it literally saves the world and all the millions more people who would get killed by the aliens otherwise.
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Well Randy Quaid did it.
How, by having other pilots commit suicide by flying up into the hearts of the other mother ships?