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JJ: "This is the direction our country is going in...." (11-22)

posted 8 years ago by pvd295
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WOW! Judge Judy gave us a classic moment of how secluded she is from the 'working class people' with her statement on her show 11-22.

There were two sisters present:

The older one/plaintiff was 25, said she was laid-off from her full time job at CitiBank in June, and is now working part-time as a cleaning woman (and now enrolled to college, as well, I believe). She lives on her own.

The younger sister/defendant was 22, works part-time as an admissions clerk in a health-care facility, where she gets (on average) 25 hours per week. She lives with her mother, who is 54, and a full-time nurse (I believe she said nurse).

SO Judge Judy looks at Byrd, and said the 25 year old and the 22 year old work part time, while the 54 year old mother works full time. "This is the direction our country is going in."

Wow, Judy! It's time you woke up and smelled the Onion Bagels!

The direction the country is GOING IN? It was 'going in' that direction back in 2006-07, when the housing market started to crash and brought the economy down along with it.

It's BEEN IN THAT PLACE for the past 8 years, since Wall Street nearly collapsed, unemployment skyrocketed, America bailed out the big banks, most people lost their homes and no one could find suitable employment for months, if not years. We are still recovering from the biggest economic melt-down since dinosaurs roamed the earth, and you think this is a NEW direction????

Does JJ really think people are choosing to work PT jobs over FT jobs? Seriously? People are lucky to find 'a job' these days - no matter the hours...they just need an income.

DOES SHE NOT WATCH THE NEWS? Has she been listening to the political speeches for the past 18 months from the candidates? Both Trump and Clinton have promised "Jobs, jobs, jobs....full time jobs!" to make the economy strong again. Too many people are under employed or unemployed, still. Big corporations are 'saving money' by not offering FT jobs with bennies.

Most companies are splitting FT positions into 2 PT jobs - 19 hours each - just NOT to pay benefits. Many companies are hiring PT workers for FT positions, but not taking a chance on an employee right away - they are making them work PT for at least a year or two, before they promote them to FT and offer benefits. Many companies are staffing open positions with 'temp help' and 'independent contractors' - and then offering the remaining hours as a PT job. It doesn't matter if you have the qualifications and degrees or not - if you want the job, you take PT.

Major retailers shuttered thousands of stores in the past few years - getting rid of everyone from management to clerical. Macy's is going to close over 100 locations after New Year's, Sears is on the brink of closing down all together, and JCPenney just flushed out all the dead-weight from the past five years - closing stores and laying off hundreds of employees. Same with WalMart - shutting down Sam's Club and some WalMarts. CVS announced it's laying off nearly 1,000 people in this fourth quarter and looking at locations to close in 2017!

Please Judy - read the papers and watch the news....before you make your editorial comments on the air. It's not the 1980s anymore.

"Splodey heads keep splodin' " - Sarah Palin, 7-1-16 

[–] misterbfd 8 years ago

That's why the change candidate won the election. 60-some-odd percent of Americans surveyed said they think the US is on the wrong track. It's the reason for Brexit, which Donald Trump said was going to happen despite the popular thought that it wouldn't and efforts from people like Obama urging the people of the UK to vote against it.

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[–] engle_james 8 years ago

I think what JJ meant was that it shows how times have changed when 2 young and healthy women work part time while their 54 year old mother works full time, i.e. the new generation is getting lazier and lazier...

[–] pvd295 8 years ago

I think what JJ meant was that it shows how times have changed when 2 young and healthy women work part time while their 54 year old mother works full time, i.e. the new generation is getting lazier and lazier..

That is exactly what she meant, which couldn't be further from the truth - which is why I wonder if she's been aware of 'the new economy' which hit America (and the world) on that fateful day in October, 2008 ? Apparently, she hasn't.

"Splodey heads keep splodin' " - Sarah Palin, 7-1-16 

[–] engle_james 8 years ago

Well, in this case she was right- the mother is working full time and her young daughters are working part time.

[–] Tatmanlulu_BACK 8 years ago

I think what JJ meant was that it shows how times have changed when 2 young and healthy women work part time while their 54 year old mother works full time, i.e. the new generation is getting lazier and lazier...

Am I missing something here? I thought it was common knowledge that a person in their 50s, who should be well established at such an age, is more likely to have a successful full time job than a 20 something just starting out in the work world and trying to make it. My dad is in his 50s and works as a full-time engineer making bucko bugs. I just turned 30 still trying to find decent paying job that can afford today's cost of living, let alone a comfortable one or one under my degree. You're saying it should be the other way around and I should be the one more likely to have a successful full time position. I am so confused! A 55 year old man who has been in the workforce for 30 years should be in a position of having made it. A 20 something isn't in the position to have made it yet. Not to mention as Pvd stated, 50 somethings didn't start out in the same economy or inflated cost of living world as the younger generation. There's college tuition, all the dinky paying jobs that can't afford anything, economy issues, etc. There are so many reasons why this is flawed.

[–] Syn84 8 years ago

mother, who is 54, and a full-time nurse (I believe she said nurse).

Sorry bro, but this is where your story about "bad economy" falls apart ... How is a 54 year old woman able to find a full time job; yet, a 22 and a 25 year olds aren't?

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[–] pvd295 8 years ago

Sorry bro, but this is where your story about "bad economy" falls apart ... How is a 54 year old woman able to find a full time job; yet, a 22 and a 25 year olds aren't?

I doubt the mother 'found a full time job' at 54, or in the past 8 years. At 54 (and I believe a nurse) I'm sure she has been working full time for the past 30 years (or when she graduated nursing school) and when there were actually full time jobs to be found.

The two daughters, however, entered the job market at the height of the economic collapse when FT jobs were hard - and still hard - to find. They were 17 and 14 respectively when the economy collapsed.

As I said, it's not 'the direction we're headed in' , it's 'the place we've been parked in' for the past 8 years, though no one told Judge Judy it seems.

"Splodey heads keep splodin' " - Sarah Palin, 7-1-16 

[–] Syn84 8 years ago

Before I left the USA few years ago, I was responsible for interviewing and hiring new employees. We were actually encouraged to hire younger people - preferably those fresh out of college with little or no experience. Why? Because they work for much less money and they're so happy that they have their first job after college so they don't complain about anything. They also require no accommodations and health insurance for them is much cheaper.

It appeared that almost every person above the age of 40 that I hired couldn't be at work before 8:30, but couldn't stay past 3 because of his/her childcare problems and needed to visit a doctor twice per month. And there were constant complains about anything and everything ("its too hot, its too cold", "I don't like my cubicle", "we need a different brand of toilet paper" ...) ... It was worse than running a daycare.

So being younger, in many cases, has its advantage.

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[–] MiketheMechanic 8 years ago

So being younger, in many cases, has its advantage.

Except in experience...I'd much rather hire someone who can only work 5 or 6 hours a day and has a lot of experience versus someone fresh out of college with a million ideas and zero knowledge on how to implement them..

[–] Syn84 8 years ago

Both sides have ups and downs.

In my field of work (social work), older people had a lot of problems adjusting to constant changes with paperwork, policies, technology, etc. Teaching them how to use a tablet in the field was a nightmare. We were also salary workers (not hourly) so our job sometimes required to work more than 40 hours per week and that was always a problem for older people - they had to pick up their kids from day-program, school, it was always something why they couldn't stay an hour longer.
And despite their experience, they tend to be much less productive because they spend too much time complaining (usually about temperature and/or bathrooms) and also too much time going to lunch, going to bathroom every 20 minutes, making numerous phone calls every day with ex-husband/wife ...
And they also require a much larger salary and they go to doctors more often, so health insurance premiums were higher ...

In the end, I usually went with younger candidates ... You get much higher "bang for the buck" - they require more initial training, but its works out better in the long run.

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[–] Tatmanlulu_BACK 8 years ago

Both sides have ups and downs.

In my field of work (social work), older people had a lot of problems adjusting to constant changes with paperwork, policies, technology, etc. Teaching them how to use a tablet in the field was a nightmare. We were also salary workers (not hourly) so our job sometimes required to work more than 40 hours per week and that was always a problem for older people - they had to pick up their kids from day-program, school, it was always something why they couldn't stay an hour longer.
And despite their experience, they tend to be much less productive because they spend too much time complaining (usually about temperature and/or bathrooms) and also too much time going to lunch, going to bathroom every 20 minutes, making numerous phone calls every day with ex-husband/wife ...
And they also require a much larger salary and they go to doctors more often, so health insurance premiums were higher ...

In the end, I usually went with younger candidates ... You get much higher "bang for the buck" - they require more initial training, but its works out better in the long run.

What difference does it make? Most older people have jobs that they have been in for umpteen years, which is different from a young person who is just starting out. You're speaking to an older person looking for work. Majority of older people are established where they aren't looking for work. And from what I have seen and been told, job experience trumps everything else. Yea, as between an older person who is looking for work and a younger person, the younger person may get chosen just because the job feels they can get over on low balling them so they aren't earning enough to take care of themselves. But then you come back to the same issue of crappy jobs and why a young person isn't as likely to have a full time job as an older person, because the garbage salaries we are only offered in this environment of inflated costs.

[–] d_henderson1810 8 years ago

Maybe you are demanding too much from your employees, Syn84.

You complain about older workers complain too much.

Also, it doesn't sound like you understand that a job is a too way street. You have to make some concessions to employees.If you're not prepared to do that, then don't hire anyone. Stick to doing all their jobs yourself, then you don't need to pay anyone a wage. Now, you doing all the jobs will take up all your time, but you can't have everything.

Sometimes, it sounds like employers are looking for reasons NOT to hire people, rather than reasons to hire someone.

No-one MAKES an employer advertise for workers. It comes from necessity. So, then, the question is, how much are you prepared to meet the worker halfway in order to have someone else do those jobs, even if you have to begrudgingly pay them for it.

[–] Syn84 8 years ago

Maybe you are demanding too much from your employees, Syn84.

22-year-olds never had a problem meeting my demands (they're actually not my demands, they're company's demands. I don't set up policies, but I have to follow them).

Also, it doesn't sound like you understand that a job is a too way street. You have to make some concessions to employees.If you're not prepared to do that, then don't hire anyone.

As I said before, I rarely had problems with younger employees. They learn much quicker, they're more flexible with work schedules, they have no problem being supervised by a 25-year-old (many older employees did) and they work for much less money.

So, then, the question is, how much are you prepared to meet the worker halfway in order to have someone else do those jobs, even if you have to begrudgingly pay them for it.

I have no problem meeting people halfway (although younger employees usually don't require to meet them halfway - maybe 80:20). However, I do have a problem paying somebody more money who will spend less time at work, be less productive, require more accommodations, etc. Why would I do that?

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[–] d_henderson1810 8 years ago

I work in a newsagency (which is the Australian equivalent of a general store). My parents run it, and we find that, when it comes to hiring workers, older people are much better.

We had young people work. But once it becomes summer, they pull sickies to go to the beach, or they have a new boyfriend or girlfriend, and they blow off work to spend time with them. Also, today's youth have an entitlement mentality, and threaten to sue for unfair dismissal if you fire them, even if it is for continued incompetence or stealing from the till.

Conversly, we have had older workers, who are much better. Many of them have a stronger work ethic, need to money for their family, if they are retired, they have more time, and are looking for something to do. They were also raised in an era where commitment and promising to be there to do the job was a big thing. They are also more thankful for the opportunity, and take the job seriously.

I wonder if you prefer younger workers because they are easier to manipulate, younger people won't have their own ideas, which may contradict yours, are easier to boss around, and you don't have them get as many medical problems as old people (so you don't have to offer medical), or they won't retire or die on you as much. Is that it?

[–] MiketheMechanic 8 years ago

I work in a newsagency (which is the Australian equivalent of a general store). My parents run it, and we find that, when it comes to hiring workers, older people are much better.

We had young people work. But once it becomes summer, they pull sickies to go to the beach, or they have a new boyfriend or girlfriend, and they blow off work to spend time with them. Also, today's youth have an entitlement mentality, and threaten to sue for unfair dismissal if you fire them, even if it is for continued incompetence or stealing from the till.

Totally agree. I work in a college and most of the workers in my office are college assistants (who are also students).

Can't tell you the number of times most of them have called out sick or arrived late. There's one guy who's a recent college graduate and working for us part time but he has such a sense of entitlement attitude surrounding him that it's limiting his success.

I've been at that job for over a decade and have seen them come and go, some having the same attitude as their predecessors.

[–] pvd295 8 years ago

otally agree. I work in a college and most of the workers in my office are college assistants (who are also students).

Can't tell you the number of times most of them have called out sick or arrived late. There's one guy who's a recent college graduate and working for us part time but he has such a sense of entitlement attitude surrounding him that it's limiting his success.

I second that.

I work in a university where we have college students who are employed (that is they get a paycheck, not volunteering) in our department. The majority of these kids (aged 18 - 25) are 'coddled', as that is how they've been treated all their lives. Many of them pull 'no show/no call', arrive 15-30 minutes late, or call out sick a few minutes before their shift (and we work in a busy department and depend on them). One student who pulled a no show/no call last week told me (his direct supervisor) that I should text him an hour before his shift each day to remind him he has to work (he's a 23 year old grad student). WTH??

Once they get to work, they pop open their laptops and start their homework...even though I have a list of fifteen things they need to do on their shift (which is on average 2 hours long). In the last half hour of their shift they get to about three things.

I do blame my boss for this (he runs the department, so everything goes by him), because at 40 , he has no backbone. Therefore, these students face no consequences for their actions (except an email reminding them that they should call if they're not going to show up, etc). He knows what's going on and why things are not getting done - I've told them countless times about the laptops opening right away for homework- and he does nothing. He's guilty of coddling them as well. I have had talks with him about this reminding him we are doing them no favors - what is going to happen to them when they graduate and get the jobs on Wall Street which they're aiming for?

What kills me is the fact that these students are taking jobs away from people who really need to work. I have plenty of friends in their 40s and 50s who would be thrilled with these jobs, and would show up on time, etc. But instead we staff about nine student workers who can't get the simplest jobs done...because they don't have to.

"Splodey heads keep splodin' " - Sarah Palin, 7-1-16 

[–] Tatmanlulu_BACK 8 years ago

I second that.

I work in a university where we have college students who are employed (that is they get a paycheck, not volunteering) in our department. The majority of these kids (aged 18 - 25) are 'coddled', as that is how they've been treated all their lives. Many of them pull 'no show/no call', arrive 15-30 minutes late, or call out sick a few minutes before their shift (and we work in a busy department and depend on them). One student who pulled a no show/no call last week told me (his direct supervisor) that I should text him an hour before his shift each day to remind him he has to work (he's a 23 year old grad student). WTH??

If they weren't looking to be coddled, you couldn't lead your sugar daddy lifestyle though, Pvd!!!

[–] Syn84 8 years ago

I wonder if you prefer younger workers because they are easier to manipulate, younger people won't have their own ideas, which may contradict yours, are easier to boss around, and you don't have them get as many medical problems as old people (so you don't have to offer medical), or they won't retire or die on you as much. Is that it?

Nope.

We were contracted with state of Wisconsin, so they came with all policies and rules. It doesn't matter what ideas I, or employees, had - what state decides goes. So no, I had no problem with other people's ideas since their ideas were as worthless as my ideas were.

I'll admit that younger people are easier to boss around. I'm their boss, so if they're doing something wrong I need to be able to tell them that without receiving "that kid is ordering me around" attitude. If my employees (regardless of their age) did everything like they were supposed to - they would never see me.

Re: medical & retirement - those were company's policy, I had nothing to do with that.

Now, on average I supervised app. 18-20 people. I did the hiring of people on my team and I completed training. I had step by step instructions of every document that we dealt with on a daily basis. And still, 2 or 3 months down the road many older employees were struggling to complete it correctly. Or when we got tablets and employees were required to take them on home visits - older employees were constantly struggling to use the tablet because they couldn't learn how to use it.

In addition to all this, older employees usually have kids and if they're divorced (which many were, but I can't ask that question at the interview) it was constant "come late, leave early" issue. They couldn't start before 8:30 because day program doesn't open until 8, but they had to leave at 3 because day program closes at 3:30. So its a salary (not hourly) job - yet, they worked only 6.5 hours per day. And that's actually if everything is perfect - often they had to come late and/or leave early because their kid is sick or because they have to meet plumber at their home, etc.

Now, if people can finish their work in those 6.5 hours - great, no problem, they can come and leave whenever they want. But in most cases their work would be missing/incomplete and they're complaining how they're overwhelmed with work. When I brought up that they're only working 6.5 hours instead of 8 and that they're welcome to take their tablet home and work from home for remainder of time, they would get offended that I recommended that they take work home.

So those are my main reasons. I'm not gonna say that every younger employee worked out (on average 4 out of 5 did) or that every older employee didn't (on average 3 out of 5 didn't).

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[–] pvd295 8 years ago

In addition to all this, older employees usually have kids and if they're divorced (which many were, but I can't ask that question at the interview) it was constant "come late, leave early" issue. They couldn't start before 8:30 because day program doesn't open until 8, but they had to leave at 3 because day program closes at 3:30.

I think you're referring to 'older people' as those in their late 20s/30s/early 40s as I know those in their late 40s/50s/60s don't have those problems (usually). Those are the 'empty nesters' whose kids are grown and out of the house (away at college). If they're in their early-mid 40s, most of them have kids in high school (with their own semi-independent lives) or just starting college.

I know where I work is mostly the 30-somethings who have 'child' issues, and always running late. Dropping off at school, picking up at day care, baseball, ballet, skating, having to leave early for parent-teacher meetings, etc.

So where I work, we have the 18-24 year old 'coddled' students, who know there's really no consequence to any of their misbehavior (and think nothing of just up and quitting at an 'outside job' as I've heard plenty of those stories).

Then we have the 30-somethings who are tethered to their children's lives, and their dependability is run by their children's schedule (instead of the other way around).

The only ones I work with are those in their late 40s, 50s, 60s who are dependable and responsible.

"Splodey heads keep splodin' " - Sarah Palin, 7-1-16 

[–] Syn84 8 years ago

I was actually referring to those in their late 40s or early 50s. Its been about 2 years since I worked at that company, but if I remember correctly I had about 5-6 employees in that age range and most of them had kids who weren't even teenagers yet. Plenty of 30s year olds have those problems too, but from my experience they don't mind working few extra hours from home in order to catch up and they're also able to learn things at the much faster pace.

My main problem with older employees was their inability to keep up with changes (learn new stuff). In social work field there are constant changes and there shouldn't be a reason why it takes somebody 4 months to learn how to use a different form - especially if during those 4 months I corrected them and reminded them to use appropriate form.

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[–] Tatmanlulu_BACK 8 years ago

I think you're referring to 'older people' as those in their late 20s/30s/early 40s as I know those in their late 40s/50s/60s don't have those problems (usually). Those are the 'empty nesters' whose kids are grown and out of the house (away at college). If they're in their early-mid 40s, most of them have kids in high school (with their own semi-independent lives) or just starting college.

I know where I work is mostly the 30-somethings who have 'child' issues, and always running late. Dropping off at school, picking up at day care, baseball, ballet, skating, having to leave early for parent-teacher meetings, etc.

So where I work, we have the 18-24 year old 'coddled' students, who know there's really no consequence to any of their misbehavior (and think nothing of just up and quitting at an 'outside job' as I've heard plenty of those stories).

Then we have the 30-somethings who are tethered to their children's lives, and their dependability is run by their children's schedule (instead of the other way around).

The only ones I work with are those in their late 40s, 50s, 60s who are dependable and responsible.

Pvd, if you have such an issue with the younger generations, why do you only date them and cut off people of your own age you dirty old coot? /: \ You're probably upset these kids in your line of work have no romantic interests in someone of your advanced years.

[–] pvd295 8 years ago

Pvd, if you have such an issue with the younger generations, why do you only date them and cut off people of your own age you dirty old coot?

I'm professional enough to separate work from social life. If ever you find a job, and actually work in life, you may be able to do the same thing - if you're professional enough.

"Splodey heads keep splodin' " - Sarah Palin, 7-1-16 

[–] Syn84 8 years ago

Best advice in life: Don't sh!t where you eat.

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[–] d_henderson1810 8 years ago

Why don't you offer on-the-job training to your employees, syn84? Either you want them to know how to use it, or not. But no, you would rather not hire older people because you are ageist. You don't even try to help them get better.

Also, it is prejudiced to assume that all young people know how to use tablets, or all old people don't.

Also, I don't get the "kid" thing. Most older workers have adult children, who are moved out, married and have their own families and lives. I doubt that they would need to go home to tend to them. Whereas younger people often have babies or young children, who get sick, and need their mummy or daddy to look after them at home. They also often need to leave during the day, because they have to pick the kids up from school, or have to attend a meeting with the principle, because Johnny got in trouble at school again.

Many older workers we hired are retired, and don't have children at home, so I don't know what you are talking about there.

You will be elderly one day, syn84. I hope you make enough money to support yourself so that you don't need to work, and won't be hired by ageist employees who think like you.

Let's face it. Many employers have a "God-complex" and like having the power of who they choose to hire and fire, on whatever criteria they can get away with.

[–] Syn84 8 years ago

What makes you think that we don't offer on-the-job training? Do you think we just throw them into the fire on day 1 and watch them fail?

I told you before that I personally completed training of every employee (regardless of their age). Every new employee didn't have to follow productivity numbers for the first six months. They also didn't had a full case load until 6 months later. Social work ain't rocket science - people should be able to learn it in 6 months.

If there were changes coming (and usually there were) then we had a group training. So employee receive the exact same training on new stuff that I do. And yet, they're still struggling few months down the road on how to enter authorizations properly - despite doing that on a daily basis.

Re: kids, I already mentioned it above it - I had plenty of employees who were in their late 40s or early 50s and they had kids who were not even teenagers yet. True, many employees in their 30s also had young kids, but from my experience their 6.5 hours per day was much more productive than older employees' 6.5 hours per day. And people in their 30s were willing to take their tablets home and catch up on paperwork - which is something that people in their late 40s and 50s were rarely willing to do. People in their late 40s or 50s were usually tired of work and wanted to cruise into retirement.

I know that I'll be that age someday. And if I can't meet job requirement (and one of them is to work 40 hours per week) - then I deserve not to be hired.

We had young people work. But once it becomes summer, they pull sickies to go to the beach, or they have a new boyfriend or girlfriend, and they blow off work to spend time with them. Also, today's youth have an entitlement mentality, and threaten to sue for unfair dismissal if you fire them, even if it is for continued incompetence or stealing from the till.
Conversly, we have had older workers, who are much better.

You work at the general store, so you pay your workers probably a minimum wage or maybe little more than a minimum wage. So you probably hire students.
At my former company the minimum starting salary is $47,500 and we require a bachelor degree. See the difference? We don't hire every C- student that's looking for the summer job for a minimum wage.

Let's face it. Many employers have a "God-complex" and like having the power of who they choose to hire and fire, on whatever criteria they can get away with.

Of course I like that power. If my employees mess up - I get blamed too since my job was to supervise them. So you're damn right that I want to hire and fire whoever I wanted to. If I'm gonna be responsible for their actions - of course I want a power to hire and fire people.

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[–] d_henderson1810 8 years ago

So you are telling me that not one younger person in your employee has ever had to leave work early on account of their children, or hasn't picked up the training, or refused to take work home?

Are you also telling me that not one older worker has picked up training straight away, has not had any troubles with their kids, and has been more than happy to work from home?

Maybe it is YOUR fault. Maybe you are hiring the wrong people. I mean, if all you employ are exlempary young workers, or incompetent older workers, whose fault is that?

Why don't you hire an older worker who has previously worked in your industry before, and has years of experience? Who knows, they might not only be an expert of the system and has used a tablet in their job previously, but can train others to use it as well. When you choose older workers, are you picking those EXPERIENCED in your field, or just whomever wants a job?
But maybe you are afraid that they might know more than you, so your position is threatened (I don't know whether you are a manager, answerable to a boss, or it is your own business, making you the boss).

My business paying minimum wage doesn't mean that there still isn't an important job to do, or an excuse to slacken off. It doesn't justify young people (in my experience) saying they can't come to work one hour before shift, meaning we have to find someone else to do it, all because some young people prefer bed to early morning work.

Like I said, I don't know if you are a manager answerable to someone else, or your own boss. But if you are your own boss, I doubt that you will fire yourself if you can't do the job because you are too old. More likely, the business would go under, but then you will be old enough to retire anyway. If you are a manager, even if you are fired, you would get a very healthy redundancy package, so you will be okay. I don't know about other older workers who are looking for jobs who are too young for age welfare, but too old to be hired by ageist bosses like you who think of them as invalids.

[–] Syn84 8 years ago

Dude, do you even read my comments? I answered most of your questions already. But I don't mind doing it again.

So you are telling me that not one younger person in your employee has ever had to leave work early on account of their children, or hasn't picked up the training, or refused to take work home?

No, I'm not telling you that. I clearly said previously that on average 4 out of 5 younger employees worked out in the long run.

Are you also telling me that not one older worker has picked up training straight away, has not had any troubles with their kids, and has been more than happy to work from home?

No, I'm not telling you that. I clearly said previously that on average 2 out of 5 older employees worked out in the long run.

Maybe it is YOUR fault. Maybe you are hiring the wrong people.

Maybe. But then people of all ages would struggle. Not just a specific age group.

I mean, if all you employ are exlempary young workers, or incompetent older workers, whose fault is that?

I hire the best candidate from a group of people who apply for a job. Its my fault i an incompetent older worker applies? And no - I wouldn't hire them if they're incompetent - regardless of their age.

Why don't you hire an older worker who has previously worked in your industry before, and has years of experience?

What makes you think that I don't hire those type of applicants?

When you choose older workers, are you picking those EXPERIENCED in your field, or just whomever wants a job?

Our starting salary is $47,500 (which is extremely high for a social work field), health insurance is only $50 per month, we offer 6 weeks of paid vacation per year and a flexible working hours. We require a minimum of bachelor degree and a minimum of 2 years of experience. So do you really think that we would hire just anybody?

But maybe you are afraid that they might know more than you, so your position is threatened

If that was the case (which it wasn't), who do you think that my biggest threat would be - an ambitious 25-year-old or "cruise-to-retirement" 55-year-old? If I was truly threatened for my position, wouldn't it make more sense to hire a bunch of incompetent older people - not a bunch of ambitious younger workers who wanna advance in their job?

My business paying minimum wage doesn't mean that there still isn't an important job to do, or an excuse to slacken off. It doesn't justify young people (in my experience) saying they can't come to work one hour before shift, meaning we have to find someone else to do it, all because some young people prefer bed to early morning work.

Well, it kinda does. You get what you paid for. So your job and my former job couldn't be more different. Kids can lose their minimum wage jobs - they don't care because they can find another one like that tomorrow.

As I explained about, the job in my field require a bachelor degree and experience since we offer a pretty good salary, vacation, health insurance and flexibility. So people who apply for it are a lot more educated and qualified than those people who apply for a job in a general store.

I don't know about other older workers who are looking for jobs who are too young for age welfare, but too old to be hired by ageist bosses like you who think of them as invalids.

I don't see them as invalids. I will hire anyone who can do a good job - regardless of their age. But whether you want to admit it or not - older people have struggled to keep in a today's high-tech, fast-pace moving world.

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[–] Bookmanmovielover 8 years ago

Except in experience...I'd much rather hire someone who can only work 5 or 6 hours a day and has a lot of experience versus someone fresh out of college with a million ideas and zero knowledge on how to implement them..

I couldn't agree with you more, Mike

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[–] tankitty 8 years ago

I couldn't agree with you more, Mike

So glad I agree. This thread wouldn't have been complete without my approval.

[–] aname-38202 8 years ago

I bet you grew up watching Jerry Springer every day.

[–] Tatmanlulu_BACK 8 years ago

Sorry bro, but this is where your story about "bad economy" falls apart ... How is a 54 year old woman able to find a full time job; yet, a 22 and a 25 year olds aren't?

This has to be the most peculiar question I have heard on IMDB bar none?! Are you really questioning how a 50 something could be working full time and have a successful income while a 20 something is not?! Why not go all the way and express how odd it is that a 50 something could have a home they own while a 20 something does not? lol!

[–] Tatmanlulu_BACK 8 years ago

This is not the first time Judge Judy has shown a total lack of awareness to what's going outside of her filthy rich, upper-class bubble. She has made plenty of statements that leave people in the middle, working, and lower class lifestyles who live much harder lives that she does perplexed. Judy has always had a more upper class lifestyle so it's not hard to understand why she could be so ignorant of the things we in the middle, working and lower class go through.

I always cringed when she says things like "MOVE" as though "DON'T LIKE IT, JUST MOVE," as though a move with all the research into a new place, physical hassle, monetary considerations, regional considerations, family and relative considerations is something one can do at the drop of a hat. Sure, when you're made of money like she is you can move anywhere the hell you want at a drop of a hat and not even consider costs.

Another one I cringe at is when she talks about "today's youth" talking and texting on their cell phones right during job interviews and dressed like they are going to the beach. Errr... yea, that's not what's going on in the middle, working and lower classes at least by and large, Judy. That may be what's going on when grandma makes 45 million dollars a year, can afford 6 or 7 mansions and spreads her wealth to her closest loved ones but not outside of that bubble.

Another one I love is "He's not working, he's a bum. Go and get a job." I am sure most of us in the middle class would love to be working if it was as easy as just going out and getting a decent job that could afford to pay bills. Going out and getting a job is up to a hiring manager, Judy. And when 90% of jobs couldn't allow you to live in a rat hole in the ghetto, you can't just go out and get any ole' job or COLLECT CANS.

[–] engle_james 8 years ago

True story here- when I was a kid and my dad was unemployed or laid off, you know what he did? He collected cans! He walked the side of the road and would come back with 2 or 3 trashcans full of cans, which we would smash with our feet and condense into one bag. So I always got a kick when JJ used to tell people who didn't have a job to collect cans. She doesn't say it anymore because she knows today's generation wouldn't bother to do that.

As far as JJ screaming "don't like it? Move," I see where Tatmanlulu is coming from, but I see the other POV, too. When a tenant doesn't pay their rent, that can cause the landlord to suffer serious financial hardship, especially if the tenant is not paying rent in order to save up for a new place, but claims they're withholding rent because of some questionable problem. Ultimately, I agree with JJ- if you live in a place and the landlord won't pay for an exterminator, the answer is not to stay and not pay rent, the answer is to move. My favorite excuse is when a tenant will claim "the apartment wasn't legal in the first place." That doesn't mean you can refuse to pay rent, it means you can... "MOVE!"

[–] pvd295 8 years ago

So I always got a kick when JJ used to tell people who didn't have a job to collect cans. She doesn't say it anymore because she knows today's generation wouldn't bother to do that.

She doesn't say that because she's probably been made aware that it's illegal to do that in most cities and counties these days, as just about every place has their own 'recycling program' in effect, and the city recycles aluminum cans to help their tax base.

I know in my city, there's a $50 fine if you are caught going through people's recycled bins and 'collect cans' to make money on your own. People collecting cans can't afford $50 to make $5. At least she's up-to-date on that.

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[–] engle_james 8 years ago

My dad didn't go through other people's recycling bins- he walked on the road and picked the cans off the side of the road. Hopefully THAT'S not illegal! Besides helping my dad make ends meet, it helped to clean the streets.

[–] Syn84 8 years ago

Ultimately, I agree with JJ- if you live in a place and the landlord won't pay for an exterminator, the answer is not to stay and not pay rent, the answer is to move.

+1.

JJ yells "move" only to those who want to live rent free.

True story here- when I was a kid and my dad was unemployed or laid off, you know what he did? He collected cans! He walked the side of the road and would come back with 2 or 3 trashcans full of cans, which we would smash with our feet and condense into one bag. So I always got a kick when JJ used to tell people who didn't have a job to collect cans. She doesn't say it anymore because she knows today's generation wouldn't bother to do that.

Uber and Lyft are also always hiring.

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[–] Tatmanlulu_BACK 8 years ago

Again, getting a job is not this easy "COLLECT CANS, GO UBER" mentality you're promoting, Syn. 1.) Uber won't hire you unless you have a certain type of car: four door, certain size, relatively new, etc. 2.) You have to have an Andoid telephone and a lot of people do not use Androids, like my whole family. We all have iPhones 3.) Not everyone trusts a perfect stranger from God only knows where with them privately in their vehicle, especially a young woman. It can easily be a dangerous job. 4.) Here in northern US states, I also don't want to be slipping and sliding in snowy Wisconsin weather conditions in my car, responsible for the lives of other people at that. Again, not this simply "GO OUT COLLECT CANS, GO UBER" mentality. Getting a job is not simple as ABC. At the end of the day, getting it depends on hiring managers, you have to meet certain requirements, you have to make enough, etc.

[–] pvd295 8 years ago

Uber and Lyft are also always hiring.

They are, and they are also firing just as quickly.

If you get a certain amount of 'bad reviews' in one week's time from your passengers, you're off their list and you need to re-apply (and probably not get rehired). They run a very tight ship there (two people I know have become Uber/Lyft drivers over the past few months) and very strict with hiring qualifications (as Tatman referenced above) and keeping you employed.

"Splodey heads keep splodin' " - Sarah Palin, 7-1-16 

[–] Syn84 8 years ago

They are, and they are also firing just as quickly.

If you get a certain amount of 'bad reviews' in one week's time from your passengers, you're off their list and you need to re-apply (and probably not get rehired). They run a very tight ship there (two people I know have become Uber/Lyft drivers over the past few months) and very strict with hiring qualifications (as Tatman referenced above) and keeping you employed.

I drove Uber on Fridays and Saturdays for a year before I left the USA.

From my experience, its really not difficult to keep a decent ratings. Uber require (I believe) a minimum 4.5 out of 5. Two "secrets" about getting a good rating - keep your car clean and be able to follow directions. Its not a rocket science. I heard from some passengers how some Uber drivers couldn't find them or got them lost ... people have to be really dumb to do that since Uber application has a GPS. How difficult is it to turn left when the GPS tells you to turn left?

Uber is not really strict about qualifications either. You have to have a clean driver's record and a 4 door car that's not older than 10 years. I used a 2008 Honda Fit, which is a small economy car (the only cars that are smaller than Honda Fit are Smart and Fiat 500). So I'm not sure what "strict hiring qualifications" you're talking about.

Its the simplest and the easiest way to make money. It didn't even feel like work; it felt like running errands. I actual miss it because where I live now they don't have Uber.

Uber is not any different than other jobs. You have to do meet job requirements and Uber's requirement is to pick up and drop off a customer in timely manor. And think of "keeping your car clean" as "keeping you clothes clean" for any other job.

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[–] pvd295 8 years ago

I'm not sure how long ago that was when you drove for Uber (you said before you left the USA), but they have really tightened up in the past year or so, as their service has become more popular and their reputation has been under the microscope with some questions about personal safety, etc.

You have to do meet job requirements and Uber's requirement is to pick up and drop off a customer in timely manor. And think of "keeping your car clean" as "keeping you clothes clean" for any other job.

That may have been a couple of years ago when they were first starting out. They want to be taken seriously as a company as they grow, and they've become very strict in every single aspect of their service. It's not just keeping your car clean and driving to the destination in a timely manner.

When they first started out they needed employees to get their business off the ground. Now that they're pretty established, they are much more selective.

"Splodey heads keep splodin' " - Sarah Palin, 7-1-16 

[–] Syn84 8 years ago

Could you please be more specific? What exactly are they strict about?

I checked their web-site. These are their requirements. They're very reasonable and identical that they were about a year ago or so when I drove for them the last time.

Uber Driver Age Requirements
You must be 21 years of age or older.
You must have 3 years driving experience. If you have recently moved from another state, you may have to verify your driving history. Keep your out-of-state drivers license. You might need it.

Other Uber Driver Requirements
You need to have in-state car insurance in your name.
You must have in-state car registration. It does not need to be in your name.
You must have an in-state Driver’s License.
You must have a Social Security Number for a background check.

Background Check
Clean driving record.
Pass a background check.

The background check is done by a company called Hirease. It will take a few days.

Background check: make sure that in the past 7 years you have had…
No DUI or drug-related offenses.
No incidents of driving without insurance or license.
No fatal accidents
No history of reckless driving.
No criminal history.

Uber Driver Car Requirements
You must have a vehicle (or purchase one) that meets the Uber Car Requirements.

The UberX vehicle requirements are:
4-door sedan, must seat 4 or more passengers excluding driver.
Year 2001* or newer.
In-state plates.
No marked, taxi, or salvaged vehicles.
Pass Uber vehicle inspection.
The car must be currently registered, but your name does not have to be on the registration.

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[–] pvd295 8 years ago

Just what you mentioned above, and you have to maintain a rating of 4.5 or better to keep your position - so you're virtually at the mercy of your passengers to keep your job.

I'm curious - of all the applicants they get to drive for them, how many pass the above qualifications?

"Splodey heads keep splodin' " - Sarah Palin, 7-1-16 

[–] Syn84 8 years ago

Just what you mentioned above, and you have to maintain a rating of 4.5 or better to keep your position - so you're virtually at the mercy of your passengers to keep your job.

Well if you do your job correctly then you shouldn't have any problems getting a high rating, right?
I was one of top rated drivers in Milwaukee - my average was 4.89 out of 5.00. I'm sure I got plenty of lower scores due to my car being very small and uncomfortable; however, at the same time most of people just care about how clean your car is and how quickly you can get there. People choose Uber over taxi mainly because they don't have to wait for too long. So as long as you're at the pickup address within few minutes - you should be ok. Cleanliness is another important aspect. I used to get rid of dust once per week and I also went to carwash once per week. In addition, I kept a small cordless vacuum ($50 on Amazon.com) in my car so every time I dropped off the customer I would vacuum the leg area.
So be quick and keep a clean car. In 99% of the time it will get you 5 stars. You will not please every customer, but you shouldn't have any problems staying above 4.5 stars.

Another important thing is how you rate your customers. Some drivers will deduct a star for every 5 minutes of waiting time or if customer ask them to follow their directions instead of those on GSP. Well, if wanna be a dick and rate somebody lower because of that - customer will give a lower rating to driver for every pothole that you hit (or some similar reason). I drove over 1,000 customers and I gave less than 5 stars only twice - I gave 1 star to this old drunk dude who spilled beer in the backseat and I gave 3 stars to somebody that I drove 20 minutes to pick up and he only needed a ride less than a mile away. Waiting few extra minutes or following customer's directions instead of GPS are not reasons to rate somebody lower.

I'm curious - of all the applicants they get to drive for them, how many pass the above qualifications?

Not everybody will qualify of course, but those qualifications are very reasonable. Wouldn't you agree? If you're transporting people you clearly have to have a clean driving record and a legal car.

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[–] Tatmanlulu_BACK 8 years ago

Hate to burst your bubble but not everyone has a 4 door sedan dude, thus would be considered tough requirements to meet. Take me! Uber has been harassing me with notifications on how they are hiring and to sign up even though i have told them I don't meet their qualifications. I have a 1999 two door Honda Civic, not anywhere close to a 4 door sedan. Also, you conveniently left out the requirement of an Android telephone, also stringent requirements to meet. Thats in addition to everything on your long list, including the customer's control over your job. And not everyone wants drunken strangers in your car who might drop beer all over it and damage it.

[–] Syn84 8 years ago

but not everyone has a 4 door sedan dude

Here you go. It will pay itself of in 2 weeks with Uber driving.
http://milwaukee.craigslist.org/cto/5877711261.html

you conveniently left out the requirement of an Android telephone, also stringent requirements to meet.

Uber is available on iPhones as well.

including the customer's control over your job.

In every job you have to satisfy your customers, regardless of what job it is. Uber is no different. Sometimes its not possible to satisfy every customer despite doing the best job possible, but most of the time if you meet your job requirements - customers will be happy.

As I have said, I had a 4.89 rating despite driving a small uncomfortable car. Imagine how high the rating could've been if I had a decent car.

And not everyone wants drunken strangers in your car who might drop beer all over it and damage it.

Sure, you might not want something, but then don't say "I tried everything and there are no jobs available".

By the way, you don't need to drive drunken strangers. I never did, at least not after one of customers spilled beer in my car (by the way, he paid for the professional cleanup). I drove late nights in the beginning, but after that incidents I switched to early afternoons. So I would drive on Fridays from 4-8 pm and Saturdays from 9-12 am and 3-8 pm. So approximately 12 hours per week and none were late hours. During those 12 hours I would make app. $250-300 after all expenses (gas, food, drinks, etc). During Summerfest days I made as high as $800 in a day. Most of customers were college kids going to bars. Other than one guy spilling a beer, I never had a single incident - and I drove over 1,000 people.

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[–] Tatmanlulu_BACK 8 years ago

Here you go. It will pay itself of in 2 weeks with Uber driving.
http://milwaukee.craigslist.org/cto/5877711261.html

After reading your post, I decided to apply on Uber. It's telling me that my car has to be at least a 2004 model or newer. Can you direct me to a 2004 vehicle on Craigslist that you think I could have paid off on Uber please?

Here is the message I got:

"Tell us about your vehicle
To qualify you must be 21 years of age and have a vehicle that meets the following requirements:

2004 or newer
4 doors
Not salvaged

Also, I have a few other questions for you:

How many hours a week can I work as an Uber driver?
If I work 40 hours a week, how much would you say it is an hour?
Would it afford a comfortable lifestyle in which I could get my own place?
Can I decide what areas I drive around in? What if I don't want to pick up someone in a sketchy part of town like Milwaukee's North Side? lol!
Are you timed on how fast you make it to a location? Milwaukee, Wisconsin expressways are dreadful between 3:00 and 6:30. You were never late on account of traffic? How did you deal with Milwaukee traffic?

Uber is available on iPhones as well.

The website is not telling me that I have to have an Android phone this time around, but I could have swore when I tried applying a year ago, they required that I have an Android cell phone.

In every job you have to satisfy your customers, regardless of what job it is. Uber is no different. Sometimes its not possible to satisfy every customer despite doing the best job possible, but most of the time if you meet your job requirements - customers will be happy.

As I have said, I had a 4.89 rating despite driving a small uncomfortable car. Imagine how high the rating could've been if I had a decent car.

Yea, this is true.

[–] Syn84 8 years ago

Can you direct me to a 2004 vehicle on Craigslist that you think I could have paid off on Uber please?

http://milwaukee.craigslist.org/cto/5888122572.html

How many hours a week can I work as an Uber driver?

As many as you want. You can sign in/off whenever you want.

If I work 40 hours a week, how much would you say it is an hour?

Depends which days and hours you do.

Busy times are 5-9 am and 4-7 pm Mon-Fri, Fridays 10 pm to 3 am and Saturdays pretty much all day and night. If you do those hours you can expect to make $15-$20 per hour - more if there is some major event in town. Summerfest days are always busy, basketball and baseball days (especially if teams from Chicago are in town) and sunny days in the summer when beach is full of people.

If you do 8 am to 4 pm Mon-Fri expect less than a minimum wage.

Would it afford a comfortable lifestyle in which I could get my own place?

See above.

Can I decide what areas I drive around in?

Yes. You can sign in and sign off any time you want.

What if I don't want to pick up someone in a sketchy part of town like Milwaukee's North Side?

Turn it off or ignore calls (although I don't recommend ignoring calls since you'll be hearing it from Uber then).

Are you timed on how fast you make it to a location?

No, but a customer will cancel if it takes you too long to get to a pickup address.

You were never late on account of traffic?

Sure, plenty of times, especially when those damn bridges go up every 20 minutes in downtown during summer months. Sometimes people cancel, sometimes they don't.

Most of calls are within few minutes from your location. If you're lets say in Waukesha you will not a get a call from South Milwaukee - because nobody wants to wait for 20 minutes to be picked up. 99% of my pickups were less than 5 minutes away since I stayed in downtown area most of the time. If you're in suburbs then you can get calls from further away since there aren't many Uber drivers in suburbs. One time I was in Brown Deer (I was dropping somebody of) and I got a call from Mequon and it took me app. 15 minutes to get there. People are informed right away how long it will take so you should stick with that number - if estimate waiting time is 5 minutes then you need to be there in 5 minutes, otherwise they'll cancel.

How did you deal with Milwaukee traffic?

I stayed close to area where I lived so I knew all shortcuts. Just follow GPS and you'll be ok. Make sure to keep your GPS up to date.

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[–] Tatmanlulu_BACK 8 years ago

Hey Syn, so I presented your IMDB posts on Uber driving to my father, a longtime successful healthcare engineer in his 50s (I know I should be more likely to have this successful full-time position than he, but such is not the case :P), because I like to get his take on things before I jump into them. He told me not to bother with Uber driving after reading your postings. I copy and pasted everything you wrote down on here and sent it to him via his work e-mail to get his take. He pulled out his trusty calculator, did the math based on the hours you wrote as being able to make decent money above minimum wage. He concluded that it doesn't amount to anything more than a dinky part-time job at best and could NOT support me.

He said 15 to 20 dollars an hour might be nice money, but not at the amount of hours you listed as being able to make that kind of money in the week. He quoted you on saying that it's less than minimum wage for the majority of the week and day from 8 to 4. He said Fridays and Saturdays late at night from 8 to 12 am or something like that and then early in the morning a couple days of the week doesn't amount to anything that could come close to being able to support me enough to get my own place and take care of myself.

I should note that my dad brought up another great point that the hours you cited as working are very inconvenient. A lot of people can't even work these inconvenient hours from say 7:00 pm to 12:00 midnight on Fridays and Saturdays. That goes especially for people who have children and a life outside of work. I just bring all that up to make the point that these hours alone are another factor that eliminate a lot of people from working Uber, coming back to my original point that finding a decent job that can support you doesn't take on this simple "go UBER, Collect cans" mentality you and Judge Judy think it does. A majority of the litigants on Judge Judy have children they need to support and Uber cannot support a single individual, let alone support a family. They need to think realistically. In addition, a parent with children to monitor cannot work the late night hours that you cite as only being able to make real money at Uber, on the few days out of the week that you can even make that type of money at Uber. Judy would sound just as ridiculous saying "GO UBER" as she does saying "COLLECT CANS."

Sorry man! As you can see, I gave your argument a fair chance, but after consulting my father, I have to revert back to what Pvd and myself have been telling you: getting a job is not this simple as ABC "go UBER, COLLECT CANS" and you will be able to afford to take care of yourself. You and Judge Judy are living in a bubble I am afraid.

[–] pvd295 8 years ago

A lot of people can't even work these inconvenient hours from say 7:00 pm to 12:00 midnight on Fridays and Saturdays.

And the ones who do are usually too drunk to drive for themselves (which is why they call Uber) and throw up inside the back of your car. This happened to my friend three times in the past four weeks he signed on for Saturday nights.

Once they puke all over your backseat, you then have to get the seats shampooed by a professional - paid out of your pocket. This has put him in the hole for those weekend nights in which he worked 'making $15-20/hr' .

(Shampooing the car does not come cheap, and he could not find a place around here that would only do shampooing the backseats anymore - he had to buy the 'package' deal for the whole inside and outside which was $200 for his SUV, and give up your car for a few hours so you can't make money. I'm betting these car wash places are realizing how much money they can now generate off these Uber dirvers?).

There's a lot to consider before you decide on an Uber career or PT job - especially at 21 or 25 years old like these sisters. Sometimes it works out great like for Syn, sometimes it doesn't.

"Splodey heads keep splodin' " - Sarah Palin, 7-1-16 

[–] Syn84 8 years ago

Once they puke all over your backseat, you then have to get the seats shampooed by a professional - paid out of your pocket.

Either your friend is lying to you or he/she is not informed. If somebody does throw up in the car then all you have to do is report it to Uber and Uber will hold that person financially responsible. That person will have to pay for professional cleaning (I believe that the limit is $250 per incident).

Nobody ever threw up in my car, but one guy did spill the beer. I took my car to professional cleanup (for rear seats), submitted my bill for $80 to Uber and I was reimbursed a week later.

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[–] pvd295 8 years ago

Either your friend is lying to you or he/she is not informed. If somebody does throw up in the car then all you have to do is report it to Uber and Uber will hold that person financially responsible. That person will have to pay for professional cleaning (I believe that the limit is $250 per incident).

No one was lying, as he explained how he can't afford working weekend nights any more because of these incidents...and he paid out of pocket. Maybe Uber no longer does the reimbursement, or maybe they have a limit as to how many claims? I don't know - or maybe they do vary from state to state (he's in MA)?

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[–] Syn84 8 years ago

No one was lying

Is your friend aware that Uber can cover cleanup costs?

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[–] pvd295 8 years ago

I just caught part of my local 6:00 news, and they were at the end of reporting on a story about the 'new laws' which go into effect for RI Uber and Lyft drivers beginning December 1 (which I didn't catch). They then said (neighboring) MA also has new additional laws for Uber and Lyft drivers which will go into effect on New Year's Day as well (but didn't list them).

So, yes - aside from Uber's set of rules, it looks like each state has their own laws governing Uber /Lyft drivers and their qualifications - which supersede Uber rules, of course.

"Splodey heads keep splodin' " - Sarah Palin, 7-1-16 

[–] MiketheMechanic 8 years ago

A lot of people can't even work these inconvenient hours from say 7:00 pm to 12:00 midnight on Fridays and Saturdays.

I asked a buddy who's an Uber driver and he said that they let everyone set their own hours. If a driver doesn't want to work the above hours he or she doesn't have to.

I think that makes sense because it's your vehicle and as such you should be able to set the hours.

Didn't ask about cleaning services but I'd imagine that the Uber insurance would/should pay for any cleaning costs if a customer had an accident in the vehicle.

Maybe Uber rules vary according by state?

[–] Syn84 8 years ago

they let everyone set their own hours.

There is no setting up hours. You log in when you want to, you log out when you want to. You need to drive at least once per month in order to keep your account activated, but other than that days/times are completely up to you. And you don't need to inform Uber of anything - simply log in when you want to drive and log out when you don't.

Didn't ask about cleaning services but I'd imagine that the Uber insurance would/should pay for any cleaning costs if a customer had an accident in the vehicle.

Its actually not Uber insurance that covers cleaning costs. If somebody vomits in a car, you report that person to Uber and you also submit your cleaning costs to Uber. Uber will then bill that person and reimburse you.

Uber takes 25% of your earnings, but they also provide insurance when you're logged in (your regular insurance covers you when you're logged out).

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[–] MiketheMechanic 8 years ago

they let everyone set their own hours.....There is no setting up hours. You log in when you want to, you log out when you want to.

That's exactly what I meant when I said set their own hours, or in this case a schedule of hours or trips.

[–] Tatmanlulu_BACK 8 years ago

That's exactly what I meant when I said set their own hours, or in this case a schedule of hours or trips.

I get what Syn is saying here. It's not a process of setting up anything, Mike. It's just a simple log in and log out. You're not really doing any setting up of anything. Also, Syn explained that you can only make so much at a given time of the day. So I am confused by both your posts.

[–] MiketheMechanic 8 years ago

I get what Syn is saying here. It's not a process of setting up anything, Mike. It's just a simple log in and log out. You're not really doing any setting up of anything. Also, Syn explained that you can only make so much at a given time of the day. So I am confused by both your posts.

I was referring to the hours that a Uber driver works, and from what I understand and was told it is basically a schedule that he/she wants to work. If the driver wants to work one ride, so be it.

That's what I meant when I said that they set their own hours.

I believe Syn is referring to a different matter, basically how much can a driver get paid at any given time.

[–] Tatmanlulu_BACK 8 years ago

And the ones who do are usually too drunk to drive for themselves (which is why they call Uber) and throw up inside the back of your car. This happened to my friend three times in the past four weeks he signed on for Saturday nights.

Once they puke all over your backseat, you then have to get the seats shampooed by a professional - paid out of your pocket. This has put him in the hole for those weekend nights in which he worked 'making $15-20/hr' .

(Shampooing the car does not come cheap, and he could not find a place around here that would only do shampooing the backseats anymore - he had to buy the 'package' deal for the whole inside and outside which was $200 for his SUV, and give up your car for a few hours so you can't make money. I'm betting these car wash places are realizing how much money they can now generate off these Uber dirvers?).

There's a lot to consider before you decide on an Uber career or PT job - especially at 21 or 25 years old like these sisters. Sometimes it works out great like for Syn, sometimes it doesn't.

BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHA! ROFLMFAO!!! I am sorry but this had me in hysterics. Yea, I think I will steeeeeeeer veeeeeeeeeeeeeery clear of Uber after reading this account. This was all I needed to hear to make my final decision. I took the liberty of informing my brother of these accounts from your friend as he has expressed interest in working with Uber. Lol!

Syn has said that this couldn't be further from the truth based on his experience, but to be fair Syn hasn't worked for the company in quite some time. He moved from Wisconsin quite awhile ago and rules and policies change over time. As just one example, Syn confirmed here that a vehicle had to be a 2001, but according to the website it has to be a 2004.

So it may very well be that the environment at Uber has gotten a lot more crappy since he worked there. And I want no part of it.

[–] Syn84 8 years ago

but to be fair Syn hasn't worked for the company in quite some time.

True, but Syn is the only one here who actually worked for the Uber. I don't base my statements from "it happened to my friend".

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[–] Tatmanlulu_BACK 8 years ago

True, but Syn is the only one here who actually worked for the Uber. I don't base my statements from "it happened to my friend".

Yes, Syn is the only one here who has actually worked for Uber, which makes it ironic that it was tatmanlulu who had to correct Syn on his misinformation about Uber cars and the year they have to be in order to qualify.

[–] Syn84 8 years ago

It actually varies from state to state. In Illinois its still 2001. Wisconsin must've change that this year because last year it was also 2001.

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[–] pvd295 8 years ago

My friend in MA had to get a 4 door vehicle which was 10 years old or less. He got a 2008 SUV. Again - this may be a MA law, not UBER, but that's what he had to do. (He was hoping to get older to save money on the purchase and insurance).

"Splodey heads keep splodin' " - Sarah Palin, 7-1-16 

[–] Syn84 8 years ago

It usually is 10 years. For some states it can be older (Illinois still has 2001 or newer), but some stated require a 2012 or newer (New York).

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[–] Syn84 8 years ago

Sorry man! As you can see, I gave your argument a fair chance, but after consulting my father, I have to revert back to what Pvd and myself have been telling you: getting a job is not this simple as ABC "go UBER, COLLECT CANS" and you will be able to afford to take care of yourself.

No problem. If it doesn't work for some people - then it doesn't work.

Those people are welcome to stay unemployed and complain every day how there are no jobs available. If they can make a better living being unemployed than driving Uber or collecting cans - more power to them.

By the way, every job has "inconvenience". If Microsoft offers you a job tomorrow would you decline it because it inconvenience you to move to Washington and buy a $800 suit?

You and Judge Judy are living in a bubble I am afraid.

You and I went to colleges in the same city. You're born and raised in Wisconsin; I was a foreigner with a heavy eastern-European accent. Yet, you're the one who's complaining that its difficult to find a job, not me.

With all due respect, maybe instead of complaining how hard it is and calculating how Uber is "not worth your time", maybe you should spend more time looking at positives. I have a college degree (two of them in fact) and I wasn't embarrassed driving Uber because even a $5/hour is better than $0/hour. If nothing else is available - hell, even flipping burgers in McDonalds is worth it. I have a bachelor degree and my first job after college paid $24,000/year. I could've easily said "I'm worth more than that", when in fact I'm not worth *beep* unless I have an offer - which I didn't have so $800 every two weeks was still better than $0 every two weeks.

And although I will not put Uber on my resume, it helped me a lot to develop my communications skills with people.

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[–] Tatmanlulu_BACK 8 years ago

Those people are welcome to stay unemployed and complain every day how there are no jobs available. If they can make a better living being unemployed than driving Uber or collecting cans - more power to them.

Lol! Well, applying to a crappy job or remaining unemployed aren't the only options available. Just take me for instance: When I saw that the Uber position you were telling me about wouldn't allow me to live independently, I didn't conclude that I was going to remain unemployed and just complain. I spent the remainder of the night into this morning job hunting on Craigslist WHILE COMPLAINING THAT THERE ARE NO DECENT JOBS AVAILABLE (lol), looking only for positions with decent salaries.

Voila! Late this afternoon, a lady from a company right near where I live called up in response to my resume for an interview tomorrow, going so far as asking me to bring 2 forms of identification as they are very interested. It's a position in a warehouse that will involve some labeling, packaging and unloading for $15.50 an hour. It's full time from 12:00 pm to 8:00 pm on Friday, Saturday, Sunday and either Monday and Tuesday or Wednesday and Thursday. By no means is it anything glamorous, but it's not working a job in which I will need support from somebody else. It can hold me over until I find something glamorous.

Because I don't take any ole' job like McDonald's (really?!), all my last salaries have been 15 bucks an hour or higher. My most recent job that I held onto for a year up until this past June was as a Brand Ambassador making $22.00 an hour. It was actually only 30 hours a week so came out to $16.00 an hour, but still pretty damn good pay for working only part time. I left on my own terms because of all the anal rules that made you feel as though you would be fired before long anyway. Back in August, I was offered a position as a Camera Operator for Milwaukee Elementary Schools for 15.00 an hour but found I wasn't interested during their training period with me. Last month, I was offered an Office Assistant position also for 15.00 an hour just 4 minutes away from my apartment. I knew for a fact that job wasn't for me during the training period as well.

So you see, I haven't concluded I was going to remain unemployed and I haven't accepted positions that are in any way crappy either. I have decided that I know my worth as someone with a Bachelor of Science Degree, an Associate of Arts Degree, and strong skills to bring to the table. I have chosen to spend the majority of my day, my time and my energy dedicated to hunting for a job that I can actually live on. That's as opposed to spending the majority of my time, my energy and my day fooling with a dinky job that I can't even live on. What's the point of working at McDonald's if their crappy pay has me reliant on parents and friends anyway. I am not accomplishing diddly squat.

Also, I am not interested in keeping companies that low ball job applicants in business, especially job applicants with degrees. More and more Jobs will continue to low ball job applicants if there are great amounts of job applicants like yourself willing to allow that. It's particularly problematic when individuals with degrees and higher credentials accept low wage jobs because then more and more jobs will lower their salaries even for college graduates.

You and I went to colleges in the same city. You're born and raised in Wisconsin; I was a foreigner with a heavy eastern-European accent. Yet, you're the one who's complaining that its difficult to find a job, not me.

That is all very true, and I respect your accomplishment and ability to immigrate here to Wisconsin and make a way for yourself. I take nothing away from that as it simply is not easy to do what you did and during a time of economic struggle in our country. That said, I cannot afford to lower my standards job wise as you did when you were living here: I do not have a spouse to split bills with as you did when you lived here in Wisconsin. Having a spouse helps tremendously. Albeit a foreigner, you're also a str8 white male with a spouse to assist you financially. Conversely, I am a single, gay black male, living in what is described as the worst state to live in for African Americans, let alone gay African American men. Yes, you were a minority in your own way when you relocated here but you are a str8 white man who had a very successful wife to help you out financially and emotionally.

With all due respect, maybe instead of complaining how hard it is and calculating how Uber is "not worth your time", maybe you should spend more time looking at positives. I have a college degree (two of them in fact) and I wasn't embarrassed driving Uber because even a $5/hour is better than $0/hour. If nothing else is available - hell, even flipping burgers in McDonalds is worth it. I have a bachelor degree and my first job after college paid $24,000/year. I could've easily said "I'm worth more than that", when in fact I'm not worth *beep* unless I have an offer - which I didn't have so $800 every two weeks was still better than $0 every two weeks.

Again, I would be living independently if I left my parents' home without a spouse to rely on as you, a str8 white male, are afforded. As a double minority who already gets the shaft in every aspect of life, I choose not to be completely and totally miserable by working on a job at McDonald's on top of everything else. As double minority who chose never to drink, never to smoke, never to do drugs, never to do anything to attract diseases despite my struggles, but rather to work my ass off and go to college, I know my worth and that is more than working at McDonald's. I choose to recognize my worth and educational level as someone who took a straight edge path despite my challenges, work my butt off. As I will not get the enjoyments out of life that you undoubtedly will as a heterosexual white male, I would rather not spend a huge bulk of my day even more stressed and miserable at a dinky job in which I am unable to even support myself. Perhaps I could afford to do that if I had a successful spouse but such is not the case.

And technically, I have been employed for the last 6 years. Because a family member of mine is handicapped, any time I spend with them accommodating their needs gets me an hourly salary. I just haven't considered myself really employed working that job since it only pays $12.00 an hour at 20 hours a week. I did that from April 2010 through September of this year when that family member moved away in September. So technically speaking, I've only been unemployed per se for not even a month. I was hired as an Office Assistant in October, which I quit in early November. While working as a Home Health Care Provider for my family member, I was also had that $22.00 an hour Brand Ambassador position for a year as well.

[–] MiketheMechanic 8 years ago

As a double minority who already gets the shaft in every aspect of life, I choose not to be completely and totally miserable by working on a job at McDonald's on top of everything else. As double minority who chose never to drink, never to smoke, never to do drugs, never to do anything to attract diseases despite my struggles, but rather to work my ass off and go to college, I know my worth and that is more than working at McDonald's. I choose to recognize my worth and educational level as someone who took a straight edge path despite my challenges, work my butt off.

As a double minority myself, I know it isn't easy but always remember and never forget, YOU are your own destiny. Never let anyone or anything stand in your way.
Work hard and earn your own keep and no one can ever take that away from you.

Be proud of who you are and where you're going, my friend, so very proud of you!!!! 

[–] Tatmanlulu_BACK 8 years ago

As a double minority myself, I know it isn't easy but always remember and never forget, YOU are your own destiny. Never let anyone or anything stand in your way.
Work hard and earn your own keep and no one can ever take that away from you.

Be proud of who you are and where you're going, my friend, so very proud of you!!!

What a beautiful posting, Mike. This really meant a lot to me. You're such a sweetheart. Such sage advice you offer that I am my destiny and to never let anyone stand in my way. I value those words. Thank you for your wisdom. Cheers to us, two damn strong double minorities. 

[–] ScaryMary123 8 years ago

As a double minority who already gets the shaft in every aspect of life, I choose not to be completely and totally miserable by working on a job at McDonald's on top of everything else. As double minority who chose never to drink, never to smoke, never to do drugs, never to do anything to attract diseases despite my struggles, but rather to work my ass off and go to college, I know my worth and that is more than working at McDonald's. I choose to recognize my worth and educational level as someone who took a straight edge path despite my challenges, work my butt off.

Wow. As a "double minority," whatever the hell that means, I'd expect you'd be a little more sensitive to your fellow human beings...many of which actually WORK at McDonald's and don't see it as a step down, as you apparently do.

Let me ask you this, if you're "working your ass off to go to college," just where are you working? What kind of great life's experience do you have under your double-minority belt that you can afford to look down your nose at McDonald's workers? I doubt your job is much better, not unless you got it through some agency that helps minorities or "double-minorities."

There is absolutely NOTHING wrong with working at McDonald's or Burger King or Wendy's or any other fast food outlet.

[–] Tatmanlulu_BACK 8 years ago

Wow. As a "double minority," whatever the hell that means, I'd expect you'd be a little more sensitive to your fellow human beings...many of which actually WORK at McDonald's and don't see it as a step down, as you apparently do.

Let me ask you this, if you're "working your ass off to go to college," just where are you working? What kind of great life's experience do you have under your double-minority belt that you can afford to look down your nose at McDonald's workers? I doubt your job is much better, not unless you got it through some agency that helps minorities or "double-minorities."

There is absolutely NOTHING wrong with working at McDonald's or Burger King or Wendy's or any other fast food outlet.

If you think I'd be caught dead working at Mickey D's, woman you is scary!!! Just because you or someone very close to you didn't make the most of themselves and works in the gutter, don't take it out on me with your garbage. Yes, I look down on working at McDonald's and have higher aspirations. That's why I went to school. Deal with it.
And what a tool you are, not even acknowledging what a double minority is but wanting sensitivity because you have some connection with being a lowly McDonalds employee. You make me sick!

[–] tankitty 8 years ago

If you think I'd be caught dead working at Mickey D's, woman you is scary!!! Just because you or someone very close to you didn't make the most of themselves and works in the gutter, don't take it out on me with your garbage. Yes, I look down on working at McDonald's and have higher aspirations. That's why I went to school. Deal with it.
And what a tool you are, not even acknowledging what a double minority is but wanting sensitivity because you have some connection with being a lowly McDonalds employee. You make me sick!

Wow, you sound really educated, not to mention a class act ("woman you is scary!"). I suppose you went to kommunity kollege with all that "double-minority" free money you "done got" from the federal government.

The next time you're at McDonald's, I hope someone blows a big load on your Big Mac. Something tells me you like that particular secret sauce.

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[–] MiketheMechanic 8 years ago

If you think I'd be caught dead working at Mickey D's, woman you is scary!!! Just because you or someone very close to you didn't make the most of themselves and works in the gutter, don't take it out on me with your garbage. Yes, I look down on working at McDonald's and have higher aspirations. That's why I went to school. Deal with it.

And what a tool you are, not even acknowledging what a double minority is but wanting sensitivity because you have some connection with being a lowly McDonalds employee. You make me sick!

There is absolutely nothing wrong with working in McDonald's or any other fast food restaurant. I've known recent college grads who worked in fast food restaurants to help make ends meet while applying for full-time positions. Those grads were trying to make the most of themselves by doing the right thing - earn a living.

Absolutely no one should be ashamed or embarrassed because they have a job, any job!

I would say the only thing that is embarrassing about working at McDonald's is having to deal with those who assume that those types of jobs are gutter jobs and the likely disrespect that they receive on a constant basis. Those jobs are held by able-bodied people willing to do what it takes to support themselves and their families.

I'd much rather have a friend who works in a fast food restaurant and is able to maintain himself with dignity and respect because he's doing it on his own than someone who is educated to the point that they feel that working in such an establishment is beneath them. And is probably borrowing money from family and friends to make ends meet.

You don't want to work in McDonald's? That's fine. But please don't put people down who want to, or have to work in the fast food industry. We don't know those people or their situations or what they're going through.

Next time you go to one of those places, take a moment to reflect and look at the human beings behind the counter and remember that they're not just flipping burgers or taking abuse from impatient customers because they didn't make the most of themselves or have higher aspirations.

They're doing it because they have bills to pay and families to feed.

[–] Syn84 8 years ago

I'd much rather have a friend who works in a fast food restaurant and is able to maintain himself with dignity and respect because he's doing it on his own than someone who is educated to the point that they feel that working in such an establishment is beneath them. And is probably borrowing money from family and friends to make ends meet.

Amen.

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[–] Tatmanlulu_BACK 8 years ago

Amen.

Of course a guy who worked Uber would Amen working McDonald's.

[–] Syn84 8 years ago

Yep. And thanks to Uber not that long ago I spent two months in sunny Australia. Must've been because of my wife who supports me.

How's Wisconsin? Probably under 20-30 inches of snow by now? Here in Ibiza (Spain) is beautiful, it should be in mid 70s today. Few more hours and time to go to the beach.

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[–] Tatmanlulu_BACK 8 years ago

Yep. And thanks to Uber not that long ago I spent two months in sunny Australia. Must've been because of my wife who supports me.

How's Wisconsin? Probably under 20-30 inches of snow by now? Here in Ibiza (Spain) is beautiful, it should be in mid 70s today. Few more hours and time to go to the beach.

Err... I thought you had a predilection for cold weather. Irregardless, that does sound hella dreamy. Boy, could I use that. Say, you and your wife aren't into polyamory, are you? All three of us would have a ball out there in sunny Australia, Syn84. And imagine the electricity between all of us in the bedroom?

[–] Syn84 8 years ago

I don't mind sunny weather, which is why its nice to come to Ibiza every now and then. I'm flying home tomorrow and then my next assignment is in Sweden (Volvo V90) in late January.

I'm not in Australia any longer; I was there only for two months for vacation. Sorry, but I didn't had any interest to meet you (even as a friend) even when I was in Wisconsin, let alone now when I'm in a different country every month.

I gotta finish my story before sun comes out so that I can enjoy my last day in Ibiza on the beach. Good luck with that job interview that you mentioned last week.

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[–] Tatmanlulu_BACK 8 years ago

I don't mind sunny weather, which is why its nice to come to Ibiza every now and then. I'm flying home tomorrow and then my next assignment is in Sweden (Volvo V90) in late January.

Oh, is that dreamy. Yes, Wisconsin is ratchet right now. We're supposed to be in the teens for the next few nights as a matter of fact. I can't walk from my car to Walmart without my hands feeling like they're about ready to freeze off. I think you need to purchase me a ticket with you to Ibiza.

I'm not in Australia any longer; I was there only for two months for vacation. Sorry, but I didn't had any interest to meet you (even as a friend) even when I was in Wisconsin, let alone now when I'm in a different country every month.

Oh give me a break! That's why you were always flirting with the idea of us meeting up at a local strip joint here in the area. I couldn't have one discussion with you without you recommending this strip joint to me. Ultimately, you were just afraid you would fall hard for me and I would steal you from your wife had we met up. Then she wouldn't be able to support you because you knew I would make you support yourself if we were together.

I gotta finish my story before sun comes out so that I can enjoy my last day in Ibiza on the beach. Good luck with that job interview that you mentioned last week.

Story?! Is this for that magazine job you have in which you submit articles to? That job sounds like so much fun. Now that's a real job. Not McDonald's.

[–] Tatmanlulu_BACK 8 years ago

There is absolutely nothing wrong with working in McDonald's or any other fast food restaurant. I've known recent college grads who worked in fast food restaurants to help make ends meet while applying for full-time positions. Those grads were trying to make the most of themselves by doing the right thing - earn a living.

Absolutely no one should be ashamed or embarrassed because they have a job, any job!

I would say the only thing that is embarrassing about working at McDonald's is having to deal with those who assume that those types of jobs are gutter jobs and the likely disrespect that they receive on a constant basis. Those jobs are held by able-bodied people willing to do what it takes to support themselves and their families.

I'd much rather have a friend who works in a fast food restaurant and is able to maintain himself with dignity and respect because he's doing it on his own than someone who is educated to the point that they feel that working in such an establishment is beneath them. And is probably borrowing money from family and friends to make ends meet.

You don't want to work in McDonald's? That's fine. But please don't put people down who want to, or have to work in the fast food industry. We don't know those people or their situations or what they're going through.

Next time you go to one of those places, take a moment to reflect and look at the human beings behind the counter and remember that they're not just flipping burgers or taking abuse from impatient customers because they didn't make the most of themselves or have higher aspirations.

They're doing it because they have bills to pay and families to feed.

Notice you said you know a lot of college grads who work at McDonalds just to make ends meet while applying for other work. Why were they applying for other work? Because they liked McDonald's or because they also thought McDonald's blew?

Sorry to burst your bubble but most people don't want to work at McDonald's dude and see it as lowly work. You yourself said people you know were applying to other stuff while working there, feeling forced because of excess bills. What does that in and of itself say about the job? Your argument would have been stronger had you said you know a lot of people who see McDonald's as a panacea and have worked all their lives to get there. Can't say that because it's not true for most people. Crappy pay, crappy customers as you said, crappy food, etc., doesn't equate to a good work. You're free to feel offended by that, I still look down on the job though.

[–] ScaryMary123 8 years ago

Huh?! Oink oink oink oink?!!! Wtf! What does that mean, filthy pigskin? what does "oink oink oink" mean, filthy pigskin? I'm sorry, I'm confused. Are you trying to communicate something to me, filthy pigskin? You have to stop oinking otherwise I can't understand you!

Clean your ears out, pal. I think you've overdosed on "secret sauce," and it's affecting your perception. Not to mention comprehension. Oh, but wait! You're an edjumicated "double-minority!" Haha!

[–] Tatmanlulu_BACK 8 years ago

Clean your ears out, pal. I think you've overdosed on "secret sauce," and it's affecting your perception. Not to mention comprehension. Oh, but wait! You're an edjumicated "double-minority!" Haha!

Scary Mary insults my comprehension and knowledge in the above post as quoted. Now here's a later posting by Scary Mary that she makes shortly after the above posting:

"Irregardless?" That isn't even a word, you moron. I think you need to go back to kommunity kollege and take a class in Basic Writing. You need it.

Now here are a few links to the definition of "irregardless," as shown here https://www.google.com/search?q=McDonalds&oq=McDonalds&aqs=chrome..69i57j0l5.1496j0j4&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8#q=irregardless and here http://www.onelook.com/?w=irregardless&ls=a.

This is what happens when people destined to a life at McDonald's try to go toe to toe with someone with degrees and more intelligence. The McDonald's employee knocks herself out while I just stand here and laugh at it.

[–] tankitty 8 years ago

[quoteThis is what happens when people destined to a life at McDonald's try to go toe to toe with someone with degrees and more intelligence. The McDonald's employee knocks herself out while I just stand here and laugh at it][/quote]

No one with a real college education uses "irregardless." That's just like Ebonics. Next, you'll be writing, "I axed you a question." Wow. I really think you should be putting your "double-minority" money to better use than just a few Continuing Education courses. You DO know that isn't college, right? Try a kommunity kollege--they're up to your remedial speed. You can sit in class with all the single moms who have "double-minority" kids and feel like you're so much better than them. LOL.

[–] Tatmanlulu_BACK 8 years ago

No one with a real college education uses "irregardless." That's just like Ebonics. Next, you'll be writing, "I axed you a question." Wow. I really think you should be putting your "double-minority" money to better use than just a few Continuing Education courses. You DO know that isn't college, right? Try a kommunity kollege--they're up to your remedial speed. You can sit in class with all the single moms who have "double-minority" kids and feel like you're so much better than them. LOL.

Oink OINK oink OINK oink OINK oink OINK?! Sigh! What the hell does this mean, pigskin? I thought we already went through this. This was no clearer than your original post to me of oink oink oink oink oink oink oink oink. Oink OINK oink OINK oink OINK oink OINK isn't any clearer to me. I mean pigskin, how many times do I have to tell you that I don't communicate in pigskin like your kind? If you want to tell me something, maybe grab a farmer who might understand you to translate.

[–] ScaryMary123 8 years ago

Oink OINK oink OINK oink OINK oink OINK?! Sigh! What the hell does this mean, pigskin? I thought we already went through this. This was no clearer than your original post to me of oink oink oink oink oink oink oink oink. Oink OINK oink OINK oink OINK oink OINK isn't any clearer to me. I mean pigskin, how many times do I have to tell you that I don't communicate in pigskin like your kind? If you want to tell me something, maybe grab a farmer who might understand you to translate.

Gee, I thought what Tan Kitty wrote made perfect sense. You really must have reading comprehension issues! Did you really go to college?

[–] Tatmanlulu_BACK 8 years ago

Gee, I thought what Tan Kitty wrote made perfect sense. You really must have reading comprehension issues! Did you really go to college?

Scary "I don't know Irregardless is a word" Mary continues in her "you're not smart" disses. LMFAO!!! Priceless!

[–] Syn84 8 years ago

Ultimately, you were just afraid you would fall hard for me and I would steal you from your wife had we met up.

Yeah, that must be it. That's why I ran all the way to Australia for few months - so I wouldn't fall hard for you. And then I decided to stay in Europe for the same reason.

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[–] Tatmanlulu_BACK 8 years ago

Yeah, that must be it. That's why I ran all the way to Australia for few months - so I wouldn't fall hard for you. And then I decided to stay in Europe for the same reason.

Syn84, you as well as I do that you wouldn't be able to support yourself if you had a divorce, so you followed the money and not your heart. It eats you up every day you didn't stay here so you could have my big d.

[–] ScaryMary123 8 years ago

Err... I thought you had a predilection for cold weather. Irregardless, that does sound hella dreamy.

"Irregardless?" That isn't even a word, you moron. I think you need to go back to kommunity kollege and take a class in Basic Writing. You need it.

[–] Tatmanlulu_BACK 8 years ago

"Irregardless?" That isn't even a word, you moron. I think you need to go back to kommunity kollege and take a class in Basic Writing. You need it.

"Irregardless" is a word. See here https://www.google.com/search?q=irregardless&oq=irregardless&aqs=chrome.0.0l6.2279j0j4&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8 and http://www.onelook.com/?w=irregardless&ls=a. LOL! Yikes! Talk about a diss gone horribly wrong here. This is what happens when someone destined to a life at McDonald's tries to insult the intelligence of a college graduate a lot smarter and more educated than they are. Try me again, Ronald McDonald, and watch and see don't I make you embarrass yourself all on your own with another posting just as embarrassing as the one above.

[–] jonm-1 8 years ago

"Irregardless" is a word. See here https://www.google.com/search?q=irregardless&oq=irregardless&aqs=chrome.0.0l6.2279j0j4&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8 and http://www.onelook.com/?w=irregardless&ls=a. LOL! Yikes! Talk about a diss gone horribly wrong here. This is what happens when someone destined to a life at McDonald's tries to insult the intelligence of a college graduate a lot smarter and more educated than they are. Try me again, Ronald McDonald, and watch and see don't I make you embarrass yourself all on your own with another posting just as embarrassing as the one above.

I wouldn't go patting yourself on the back for your intelligence just yet there, sport. If you had actually read much of what you linked to you, you would have seen the following--

Therefore Irregardless translates to "The opposite of or not without regard" which means "I regard this" So if you are going to say that it is a word, then it is still accurate to say that it is used INCORRECTLY at the very least.

and

Most dictionaries list it as nonstandard or incorrect usage, and recommend that "regardless" should be used instead.

So while, yes, technically it IS a word, it's hardly one someone with the intelligence you're bragging about should use. And, you used it wrong anyway.

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[–] jonm-1 8 years ago

Shut up you filthy stream of yellow piss in desperate need of a flushing!!! The User Scary Mama embarrassed herself and said it wasn't a word and it's a word!!! There's no getting around that, you filthy stream of yellow piss desperately in need of a flushing!

I like that you needed to edit your post to call me a "filthy stream of yellow piss in desperate need of a flushing." Like it took you a little while to come up with that. And you liked it so much you used it twice in one post.

And I acknowledged that it IS a word (though just barely). So you "win" on a technicality there. But you still used it incorrectly after bragging about your superior intelligence.

[–] Tatmanlulu_BACK 8 years ago

I like that you needed to edit your post to call me a "filthy stream of yellow piss in desperate need of a flushing." Like it took you a little while to come up with that. And you liked it so much you used it twice in one post.

And I acknowledged that it IS a word (though just barely). So you "win" on a technicality there. But you still used it incorrectly after bragging about your superior intelligence.

Not reading it streamline of piss, not reading it streamline of piss!!!

[–] jonm-1 8 years ago

Not reading it streamline of piss, not reading it streamline of piss!!!

You actually responded to me to tell me you're not reading my post?

[–] Tatmanlulu_BACK 8 years ago

You actually responded to me to tell me you're not reading my post?

More streams of piss above I am not reading! More streams of piss above I'm not reading

[–] jonm-1 8 years ago

More streams of piss above I am not reading! More streams of piss above I'm not reading

Do the doctors who run the facility where you live know you have Internet access?

[–] Tatmanlulu_BACK 8 years ago

Do the doctors who run the facility where you live know you have Internet access?

Man what a bladder! Even more piss I won't read. Longest piss of a lifetime!

[–] jonm-1 8 years ago

Man what a bladder! Even more piss I won't read. Longest piss of a lifetime!

So, what, you're copying and pasting with your eyes closed? I mean, you had to have read at least SOME of what I wrote, right? Even accidentally?

[–] Tatmanlulu_BACK 8 years ago

So, what, you're copying and pasting with your eyes closed? I mean, you had to have read at least SOME of what I wrote, right? Even accidentally?

Tinkle tinkle tinkle tinkle tinkle. Looks like this rancid piss that I won't read is going to last all night. Must have had a six pack, did you? Still not reading any of your rancid piss!!!

[–] pvd295 8 years ago

Pvd, you were stuck at a fast food joint as a teen and now you feel the need to defend it is nice, but fact remains its garbage work.

Stuck??????

I wasn't 'stuck'; I 'chose' to be there at 14 and I worked there for 3 years. I then chose to leave there and went to work at a cafe (I guess that's considered 'fast food', too) and became manager at 20, while going to college full time and staed at that job for 6 years.

Got my BA, learned how to run a business first-hand, and opened my own business (retail store) a few days after I turned 24. Had my successful business for 25 years, when I realized I was ready for my 'second act' and got my full time job at a University.

Garbage work?????

Sorry to disappoint you, but I never considered it that. It was a great foundation that made me the success I am today. I enjoyed the work, made wonderful friendships (that still go on to this day), and learned so much.

"Splodey heads keep splodin' " - Sarah Palin, 7-1-16 

[–] Tatmanlulu_BACK 8 years ago

Stuck??????

I wasn't 'stuck'; I 'chose' to be there at 14 and I worked there for 3 years. I then chose to leave there and went to work at a cafe (I guess that's considered 'fast food', too) and became manager at 20, while going to college full time and staed at that job for 6 years.

Got my BA, learned how to run a business first-hand, and opened my own business (retail store) a few days after I turned 24. Had my successful business for 25 years, when I realized I was ready for my 'second act' and got my full time job at a University.

Garbage work?????

Sorry to disappoint you, but I never considered it that. It was a great foundation that made me the success I am today. I enjoyed the work, made wonderful friendships (that still go on to this day), and learned so much.

Can I ask you this question. Why did you go to college at all? Why didn't you just stay employed at the fast food joint you worked at while 14 your whole life?

[–] ScaryMary123 8 years ago

Do the doctors who run the facility where you live know you have Internet access?

Haha! 😂

[–] pvd295 8 years ago

I would say the only thing that is embarrassing about working at McDonald's is having to deal with those who assume that those types of jobs are gutter jobs and the likely disrespect that they receive on a constant basis. Those jobs are held by able-bodied people willing to do what it takes to support themselves and their families.

I'd much rather have a friend who works in a fast food restaurant and is able to maintain himself with dignity and respect because he's doing it on his own than someone who is educated to the point that they feel that working in such an establishment is beneath them. And is probably borrowing money from family and friends to make ends meet.

You don't want to work in McDonald's? That's fine. But please don't put people down who want to, or have to work in the fast food industry. We don't know those people or their situations or what they're going through.

Excellent post. 

"Splodey heads keep splodin' " - Sarah Palin, 7-1-16 

[–] Tatmanlulu_BACK 8 years ago

Excellent post.

Pvd, you were stuck at a fast food joint as a teen and now you feel the need to defend it is nice, but fact remains its garbage work.

[–] Beck_Mill_00 8 years ago

There is absolutely nothing wrong with working in McDonald's or any other fast food restaurant. I've known recent college grads who worked in fast food restaurants to help make ends meet while applying for full-time positions. Those grads were trying to make the most of themselves by doing the right thing - earn a living.

Absolutely no one should be ashamed or embarrassed because they have a job, any job!

I would say the only thing that is embarrassing about working at McDonald's is having to deal with those who assume that those types of jobs are gutter jobs and the likely disrespect that they receive on a constant basis. Those jobs are held by able-bodied people willing to do what it takes to support themselves and their families.

I'd much rather have a friend who works in a fast food restaurant and is able to maintain himself with dignity and respect because he's doing it on his own than someone who is educated to the point that they feel that working in such an establishment is beneath them. And is probably borrowing money from family and friends to make ends meet.

You don't want to work in McDonald's? That's fine. But please don't put people down who want to, or have to work in the fast food industry. We don't know those people or their situations or what they're going through.

 

As pvd may remember, we got into an "interesting" discussion with Grace (where is she?) about fast food positions and their wages. While there was all kinds of discussion about how much those wages are/should be and whether or not they should be "life-long careers"... there was never any mention that they weren't valid jobs for anyone willing to work who'd rather make some (any) money to live off of, versus someone making zero dollars because they'd rather put down those who do while making excuses for not working instead.

[–] pvd295 8 years ago

As pvd may remember, we got into an "interesting" discussion with Grace (where is she?) about fast food positions and their wages. While there was all kinds of discussion about how much those wages are/should be and whether or not they should be "life-long careers"... there was never any mention that they weren't valid jobs for anyone willing to work who'd rather make some (any) money to live off of, versus someone making zero dollars because they'd rather put down those who do while making excuses for not working instead.

I do remember. Fast food restaurants have launched many successful people (myself included; my first job at 14 was at a Dunkin' Donuts way back when).

"Splodey heads keep splodin' " - Sarah Palin, 7-1-16 

[–] Tatmanlulu_BACK 8 years ago

As pvd may remember, we got into an "interesting" discussion with Grace (where is she?) about fast food positions and their wages. While there was all kinds of discussion about how much those wages are/should be and whether or not they should be "life-long careers"... there was never any mention that they weren't valid jobs for anyone willing to work who'd rather make some (any) money to live off of, versus someone making zero dollars because they'd rather put down those who do while making excuses for not working instead.

Quit worrying about fast food when you're overweight as it is. You need to get on a treadmill and go take care of your kids. You're not being a proper role model to your children being a fat cow, spending all your time online telling other people to pluck their nose hairs because they disagree with you while worrying about fast food when you're already overweight.

[–] Beck_Mill_00 8 years ago

Quit worrying about fast food when you're overweight as it is. You need to get on a treadmill and go take care of your kids. You're not being a proper role model to your children being a fat cow, spending all your time online telling other people to pluck their nose hairs because they disagree with you while worrying about fast food when you're already overweight.

Look at tutu, go! Go, tutu, go! 

According to precious, here, a man in his 40s who's 5'8" and 170 lbs is a "fat cow." 

Don't worry about my kids, pumpkin, my wife I take very good care of them, teach them responsibility, and how no work = no reward, etc... This, is obviously where your parents failed you, as you not only post junior high tirades like these all day, you laughably continue to believe the reason you can't get (nor hold) a job and are all alone in this world is because you're gay and non-white. Yup, that's clearly the reason. 

[–] Tatmanlulu_BACK 8 years ago

Look at tutu, go! Go, tutu, go!

According to precious, here, a man in his 40s who's 5'8" and 170 lbs is a "fat cow."

Don't worry about my kids, pumpkin, my wife I take very good care of them, teach them responsibility, and how no work = no reward, etc... This, is obviously where your parents failed you, as you not only post junior high tirades like these all day, you laughably continue to believe the reason you can't get (nor hold) a job and are all alone in this world is because you're gay and non-white. Yup, that's clearly the reason.

BS!!! You're not even away from the computer long enough to teach your kids anything?! At what point of the day are you teaching them anything? Is it in the process of being online telling people to pluck their nose hairs, calling people dirty skanks and telling people they are tutus? That's your idea of teaching them responsibility?! You will suffer every parents' worst nightmare, watching the early death of their child because you failed to take an active, adult role in rearing them. Instead of getting your fat cow's tail off the Internet, you spend all your time online spewing Republican rhetoric. This will fortunately end up in an early death of your children because they didn't have a father around to teach them right from wrong. Right now, they are living in a single parent household at best. You need to get offline work out and go take care of them. I should get your IP and call up Child Protective Services to save those kids, but because they have your genes, they're better off dead.

[–] Beck_Mill_00 8 years ago

BS!!! You're not even away from the computer long enough to teach your kids anything?! At what point of the day are you teaching them anything?

You see, tutu, I work (you may some day too!). My job in IT requires me architecting, designing and coding at...wait for it...wait for it.. a computer! And this computer can ... wait for it... wait for it...connect to the internet. Ah-mazing!

Is it in the process of being online telling people to pluck their nose hairs, calling people dirty skanks and telling people they are tutus? That's your idea of teaching them responsibility?!

Brace yourself for more reality, sparky. Ready? My kids don't read these posts. Also ah-mazing, right? Or are you under the impression that family members read every other family member's online activity because that's what happens when your mom and dad come down to the basement and ask to see what you're up to? 

You will suffer every parents' worst nightmare, watching the early death of their child because you failed to take an active, adult role in rearing them.

Nah, we take active roles in all their music, sports and activities. They get good grades and do well in their extra-curriculars because they've learned to work at things, not whine. Your parents should have done the same for you.

Instead of getting your fat cow's tail off the Internet, you spend all your time online spewing Republican rhetoric. This will fortunately end up in an early death of your children because they didn't have a father around to teach them right from wrong. Right now, they are living in a single parent household at best. You need to get offline work out and go take care of them. I should get your IP and call up Child Protective Services to save those kids, but because they have your genes, they're better off dead.

Go for it, tutu! You'll get multiple IPs, some from the work PCs and some from home. Explain to child services exactly what's wrong in the great home my wife and I provide for my kids who are succeeding in school and happy in life, in a home where both parents bring in six digit salaries from their jobs. It would be a hoot! 

tutu throughout this thread ->  and  and  "I won't acknowledge you!" "You're five pounds above ideal weight you fat cow!" "Your kids are going to die early!"

everyone else in this thread -> 

[–] Tatmanlulu_BACK 8 years ago

You see, tutu, I work (you may some day too!). My job in IT requires me architecting, designing and coding at...wait for it...wait for it.. a computer! And this computer can ... wait for it... wait for it...connect to the internet. Ah-mazing!

Using work hours to get on IMDB and squabble isn't working. No idea why you've not been terminated since you've not been working during work hours as you've just admitted. In essence, you're stealing money from your place of employment since you spend so much of your time shirking your responsibilities online. They are paying you to work. If someone's giving you money to do something and you're not spending that time doing it, you're a corporate thief. Str8 white man got all the privilege in the world yet is fat professional thief for a living. Like I said, your kids will be better off dead.

Brace yourself for more reality, sparky. Ready? My kids don't read these posts. Also ah-mazing, right? Or are you under the impression that family members read every other family member's online activity because that's what happens when your mom and dad come down to the basement and ask to see what you're up to

So the true you is a bad role model so you hide that away from your kids. Got it! It's like I said, your kids will be better off dead. An early grave will be better for them than this. Worse than your character is that they've got you in their blood so they are already tainted.

Learn to work? From where? You're a corporate thief on IMDB all day. You can't preach something to your kids that you yourself don't practice. You have all this privilege yet like so many of your Republican kind do, you do nothing ethical with it but become a corporate thief and shyster. This is yet another reason why they would be better off dead.

Go for it, tutu! You'll get multiple IPs, some from the work PCs and some from home. Explain to child services exactly what's wrong in the great home my wife and I provide for my kids who are succeeding in school and happy in life, in a home where both parents bring in six digit salaries from their jobs. It would be a hoot!

tutu throughout this thread -> and and "I won't acknowledge you!" "You're five pounds above ideal weight you fat cow!" "Your kids are going to die early!"

everyone else in this thread ->

I am not explaining diddly to child protective services. Like I said, your kids are going to be dead before they hit age 18 under your parenting because you're a fat corporate thief Republican and that's not in your children's best interest. You have a lot of privilege which you could be doing a lot with other than being a corporate thief. Get the hell off line and go rear your children and do your job. Got the nerve to be preaching to someone about work when you're a corporate thief. They need to take them kids away from you and put them out of your misery.

[–] ScaryMary123 8 years ago

There is absolutely nothing wrong with working in McDonald's or any other fast food restaurant. I've known recent college grads who worked in fast food restaurants to help make ends meet while applying for full-time positions. Those grads were trying to make the most of themselves by doing the right thing - earn a living.

Absolutely no one should be ashamed or embarrassed because they have a job, any job!

I would say the only thing that is embarrassing about working at McDonald's is having to deal with those who assume that those types of jobs are gutter jobs and the likely disrespect that they receive on a constant basis. Those jobs are held by able-bodied people willing to do what it takes to support themselves and their families.

I'd much rather have a friend who works in a fast food restaurant and is able to maintain himself with dignity and respect because he's doing it on his own than someone who is educated to the point that they feel that working in such an establishment is beneath them. And is probably borrowing money from family and friends to make ends meet.

You don't want to work in McDonald's? That's fine. But please don't put people down who want to, or have to work in the fast food industry. We don't know those people or their situations or what they're going through.

Next time you go to one of those places, take a moment to reflect and look at the human beings behind the counter and remember that they're not just flipping burgers or taking abuse from impatient customers because they didn't make the most of themselves or have higher aspirations.

They're doing it because they have bills to pay and families to feed.

Good for you! All this "fast food shaming" is reprehensible. When I've seen the kind of crap some of those fast food workers put up with, I admire them even more.

[–] Tatmanlulu_BACK 8 years ago

Good for you! All this "fast food shaming" is reprehensible. When I've seen the kind of crap some of those fast food workers put up with, I admire them even more.

Scary "I don't know Irregardless is a word" Mary agrees with you. What does that say about your point though? LMFAO!!!

[–] tankitty 8 years ago

Scary "I don't know Irregardless is a word" Mary continues in her "you're not smart" disses. LMFAO!!! Priceless!

Good morning, twat lips! The earth says hello!

[–] Tatmanlulu_BACK 8 years ago

Oinkely oinkely OOOOOOOIIIINK oinkely OIIIIIIIIINK?! ooooooh filthy pink pigskin, that must have been something unflattering because of the additions on the oink. Well, flipping OINKELYDOINKELY OINKELYDOINKELY, pink pigskin?!!

[–] tankitty 8 years ago

Oinkely oinkely OOOOOOOIIIINK oinkely OIIIIIIIIINK?! ooooooh filthy pink pigskin, that must have been something unflattering because of the additions on the oink. Well, flipping OINKELYDOINKELY OINKELYDOINKELY, pink pigskin?!!

The twat's lips are opening again! Watch out for the smelly diseases!

[–] Tatmanlulu_BACK 8 years ago

The twat's lips are opening again! Watch out for the smelly diseases!

Tatman: Farmer Ben, you have any idea what the ole gal's been oinking about me?! I've been curious! The pink pigskin has been oinking at me rabidly for days

Farmer Ben: Could be the ole' gal's got some gunk up her vaginal region. A lot of times they'll get testy with you when they've got gunk lodged up there. So it's very likely she is oinking something unflattering about you. Trick is to keep calm with her at all times.

Tatman: Yea, I figured as much the ole' gal was oinking her displeasure and not anything flattering. Should I give her a shower. Do you think that would help?

Farmer Ben: ahhhhh! I wouldn't bother. Pink Pigskins like to be dirty. They're at home in filth.

[–] pvd295 8 years ago

Can I ask you this question. Why did you go to college at all? Why didn't you just stay employed at the fast food joint you worked at while 14 your whole life?

Because I chose to have a college education, believing a degree along with my experience would open up more choices for me in life. And I was correct.

I believe life is about choices you make, no matter the situation you're in.

Yes, I could have stayed with the company I was working in and still be there 35 years later (they've grown and expanded), or I could go on a different path with my education and experience...the choice was mine. One of the choices I did have was buying a franchise of the cafe I worked in, or even a DD - but food is not my passion). I don't regret the choices I made, as I've had a very successful career and my education and experience has helped me.

"Splodey heads keep splodin' " - Sarah Palin, 7-1-16 

[–] Tatmanlulu_BACK 8 years ago

Because I chose to have a college education, believing a degree along with my experience would open up more choices for me in life. And I was correct.

I believe life is about choices you make, no matter the situation you're in.

Yes, I could have stayed with the company I was working in and still be there 35 years later (they've grown and expanded), or I could go on a different path with my education and experience...the choice was mine. One of the choices I did have was buying a franchise of the cafe I worked in, or even a DD - but food is not my passion). I don't regret the choices I made, as I've had a very successful career and my education and experience has helped me.

You were successful because you had bigger and better aspirations than staying in fast the food industry earning only minimum wage or barely above that. You earned your education, you aimed higher in your career goals and you succeeded and have led a successful life. To own your own establishment and succeed like you did wouldn't come from staying at a rat hole like McDonalds your whole life like that piece of sh2t Scary Mary and that pile of oinking horse manure load of *beep* tankitty. You have to dream bigger than that. And then once on the job you actually have to do it unlike that barf puddle Beck Mill who sits on his job all day communicating with people on IMDB and then bragging that he works. You dreamed bigger than this and had a strong work ethic than all of this and that is why you succeeded.

[–] pvd295 8 years ago

You were successful because you had bigger and better aspirations than staying in fast the food industry earning only minimum wage or barely above that. You earned your education, you aimed higher in your career goals and you succeeded and have led a successful life. To own your own establishment and succeed like you did wouldn't come from staying at a rat hole like McDonalds your whole life like that piece of sh2t Scary Mary and that pile of oinking horse manure load of *beep* tankitty. You have to dream bigger than that. And then once on the job you actually have to do it unlike that barf puddle Beck Mill who sits on his job all day communicating with people on IMDB and then bragging that he works. You dreamed bigger than this and had a strong work ethic than all of this and that is why you succeeded.

Again, it's all about choices and making choices that suit you and your future.

I have a friend who is almost 50. He started as a bus-boy at IHOP when he was a junior in High School. He then made it up to waiter when he was attending community college (though he never finished community college) and then made it up to manager within a few years. (He did very well at waitering, and made a ton of money in tips, so he was in no rush to move on to management).

He started off as an over-night manager when he was in his late 20s, and then made it to day manager. He then became a district manager for the company for my area, and quickly made it to regional. He did all this in his 30s - early 40s, taking one step at a time, and learning everything about the position he was in while working.

When he turned 45 a few years ago, he was given the opportunity to buy his own restaurants, as the corporation started to franchise off the restaurants in the area (as they were very valuable and successful being run by friend). He ended up buying one - the most profitable one, and hopefully by December 31, he will own his second one..all by the age of 48 (he turns 49 next year) and without a college degree - just a few accounting classes under his belt because he thought he wanted to be a CPA when he was in high school 30 years ago.

Now I have to say - while working at IHOP as a waiter, he got a lot of criticism from his family, his girlfriend (whom he ended up marrying and having a family), his relatives, his friends...but he stuck with it because it was a good company to work for, he made decent money to pay his bills in his 20s (car loan, rent, utilities) and he saw a future for himself with the company. He saw that as his 'career goals'; no longer accounting.

SO you never know where a job can take you - whether it's McDs, BK, DD, or even IHOP. (And there are plenty of stories where people started at McD,s BK, DD and ended up buying their own location down the road).

Again, it's all about choices.

I have another friend his age who can't hold down a job for more than a year, and blames everyone for his bad choices in life - he has the 'victim' card in his hand at every turn. He's a victim because he's gay, he's a victim because he's a 'child of alcoholic parents' (who have been deceased for some time), he's a victim because he is the youngest of five children and he always got the left-overs, he's a victim because...fill in the blanks, it will apply to him. He takes responsibility for NOTHING - as it's everyone else's fault he has a bad life. Yawwwwwwwnnnnn.

"Splodey heads keep splodin' " - Sarah Palin, 7-1-16 

[–] Tatmanlulu_BACK 8 years ago

Again, it's all about choices and making choices that suit you and your future.

I have a friend who is almost 50. He started as a bus-boy at IHOP when he was a junior in High School. He then made it up to waiter when he was attending community college (though he never finished community college) and then made it up to manager within a few years. (He did very well at waitering, and made a ton of money in tips, so he was in no rush to move on to management).

He started off as an over-night manager when he was in his late 20s, and then made it to day manager. He then became a district manager for the company for my area, and quickly made it to regional. He did all this in his 30s - early 40s, taking one step at a time, and learning everything about the position he was in while working.

When he turned 45 a few years ago, he was given the opportunity to buy his own restaurants, as the corporation started to franchise off the restaurants in the area (as they were very valuable and successful being run by friend). He ended up buying one - the most profitable one, and hopefully by December 31, he will own his second one..all by the age of 48 (he turns 49 next year) and without a college degree - just a few accounting classes under his belt because he thought he wanted to be a CPA when he was in high school 30 years ago.

Now I have to say - while working at IHOP as a waiter, he got a lot of criticism from his family, his girlfriend (whom he ended up marrying and having a family), his relatives, his friends...but he stuck with it because it was a good company to work for, he made decent money to pay his bills in his 20s (car loan, rent, utilities) and he saw a future for himself with the company. He saw that as his 'career goals'; no longer accounting.

SO you never know where a job can take you - whether it's McDs, BK, DD, or even IHOP. (And there are plenty of stories where people started at McD,s BK, DD and ended up buying their own location down the road).

Again, it's all about choices.

I have another friend his age who can't hold down a job for more than a year, and blames everyone for his bad choices in life - he has the 'victim' card in his hand at every turn. He's a victim because he's gay, he's a victim because he's a 'child of alcoholic parents' (who have been deceased for some time), he's a victim because he is the youngest of five children and he always got the left-overs, he's a victim because...fill in the blanks, it will apply to him. He takes responsibility for NOTHING - as it's everyone else's fault he has a bad life. Yawwwwwwwnnnnn.

You mean like the choice you made to chase after a guy less than half your age and how all your friends everybody thought you looked like a moron?! That kind of a choice. You had gay white male privilege when you were younger, but because white age poorly you know longer have that so you're not as privileged anymore. Did the kid reject you? Poor old 50 somethings old man can't find a child to take care of him during nearing golden years!

[–] pvd295 8 years ago

You mean like the choice you made to chase after a guy less than half your age and how all your friends everybody thought you looked like a moron?! That kind of a choice. You had gay white male privilege when you were younger, but because white age poorly you know longer have that so you're not as privileged anymore. Did the kid reject you? Poor old 50 somethings old man can't find a child to take care of him during nearing golden years!

Sort of like that except the part where 'everybody thought you looked like a moron', as that never happened. Nor did the part of 'did the kid reject you?' happen, as I was with him this evening. Again, sorry to disappoint you.

Now, Tat, you realize you have choices as well. SO far, at 30, you seem to have chosen 'the victim' card - nothing goes your way because you're a "double minority" and the world is out to get you. That gets very tired quickly, which is why you can't stay in a relationship -or even start one, for that matter - and live vicariously through those of us on the forum. Most of us seem older than you, and have led exciting lives with no regrets. At 30, you seem to have lived a life full of disappointment with nothing but regrets - and you want to blame it on being a 'double minority' and the deck is stacked against you. That must be a horrible, tiresome way to live.

2017 is almost here so do something better with your life: make different choices - be daring, break out of the 'victim' world and move forward. Show the world what you have to offer, no matter how little it is...just do it. Stop judging the world as 'those who have' and 'those who don't have' - this is sure to keep you nowhere in life. Strive to be your best, and I guarantee a year from now you will be a different person with a more enjoyable life.

Good luck, kid!

"Splodey heads keep splodin' " - Sarah Palin, 7-1-16 

[–] Tatmanlulu_BACK 8 years ago

Sort of like that except the part where 'everybody thought you looked like a moron', as that never happened. Nor did the part of 'did the kid reject you?' happen, as I was with him this evening. Again, sorry to disappoint you.

Heiffer, stop lying. You told me for a fact year ago that you were annoyed at how all your friends your own age were looking you up and down like a weirdo for traipsing around with someone you could grandfather. It's not attractive. Date someone your own age. Sounds like your relationship is toxic if anything because you were squawking about how it didn't work out because you were at different places in your lives. NO SH2T a 50 something is at a different place in his life than a 20 Something. Instead of your a2ss finding someone your age, you're trying to get under the sheets with your grandson. And it's probably because white males age so poorly. As I said, you all don't age very gracefully after your 20s, so then you're after people of other races and less than half your age when you get to be in your 50s.

Now, Tat, you realize you have choices as well. SO far, at 30, you seem to have chosen 'the victim' card - nothing goes your way because you're a "double minority" and the world is out to get you. That gets very tired quickly, which is why you can't stay in a relationship -or even start one, for that matter - and live vicariously through those of us on the forum. Most of us seem older than you, and have led exciting lives with no regrets. At 30, you seem to have lived a life full of disappointment with nothing but regrets - and you want to blame it on being a 'double minority' and the deck is stacked against you. That must be a horrible, tiresome way to live.

I'm living vicariously though you. /: \. You think I want to up here on IMDB in as a 50 something year old man drooling over everything with a d*ck on it that shows up on Judge Judy because I don't have any man of my own at an age I am supposed to have a man. I My boyfriend of 4 years and I were the same age. He wasn't 30 years my junior.
You are even worse than a Republican because you're probably only a Democrat for some selfish reason. I have seen you on hear targeting women, black women and everything but white males. How *beep* dare you parade around The View message boards acting like some kind of respectable liberal you 50 somethings pedophiliac old coot. You need to be preparing for you golden years and go find a man from the nursing home and leave us young people the hell alone.

If I were you, I wouldn't be to wishful for the new year. As I said, it's another year you will age and white skin DOES NOT age gracefully. Not only am I twice as young as you are, but I am also told that physically I could pass for 20 still because black don't crack. The last thing I need is for some old pervert who since on these boards drooling over all the young guys on Judge Judy trying to tell me how to live life productively. Chasing after young people and drooling over every young man on Judge Judy is hardly living life productively or non-creepily.

PS I just got hit on by the 9th hundredth time by an old guy like you via my e-mail. He is someone you belong with. He like 47. Give me your e-mail so I can hook you up with someone age-appropriate for your old @ss!

[–] MiketheMechanic 8 years ago

If I were you, I wouldn't be to wishful for the new year. As I said, it's another year you will age and white skin DOES NOT age gracefully. Not only am I twice as young as you are, but I am also told that physically I could pass for 20 still because black don't crack. The last thing I need is for some old pervert who since on these boards drooling over all the young guys on Judge Judy trying to tell me how to live life productively. Chasing after young people and drooling over every young man on Judge Judy is hardly living life productively or non-creepily.

I remember when I was 30 and went to a bar and some 22 year old kid called me an 'old guy'. 

That still holds true today!

Blessed to be living in an age where 50 is the new 30. And in ten years from now 40 may be the new 60.



[–] Tatmanlulu_BACK 8 years ago

I remember when I was 30 and went to a bar and some 22 year old kid called me an 'old guy'.

That still holds true today!

Blessed to be living in an age where 50 is the new 30. And in ten years from now 40 may be the new 60.

The only thing that ever happens to me whenever I tell anybody my age at the bars and otherwise is disbelief that I am actually 30. I thought growing out my a light beard like I did recently would help people be able to tell my age a little better. However, a girl recently said the same thing that she thought I was in my young 20s. Black don't crack. >:D It's not how old you are, it's how young you look and how healthy you are. They say that a lot of white guys age poorly because of the lack of melanin in their skin. And all I know is when I see the crowd I hung out with at the clubs from my early 20s, they either look their age or 30 years older. Meanwhile, I can pass for being apart of the new early 20 somethings. I am not trying to diss on white people, it's just the way it is as it relates to race. That's partly why I really don't like dating white guys who are older than me.

[–] Beck_Mill_00 8 years ago

Using work hours to get on IMDB and squabble isn't working.

And neither is NOT having a job, but at least I still get paid.  You on the other hand, have to explain on job interviews why you go months on end without a job. Do you just tell them it's because you're a "double minority?"

No idea why you've not been terminated since you've not been working during work hours as you've just admitted. In essence, you're stealing money from your place of employment since you spend so much of your time shirking your responsibilities online. They are paying you to work. If someone's giving you money to do something and you're not spending that time doing it, you're a corporate thief. Str8 white man got all the privilege in the world yet is fat professional thief for a living. Like I said, your kids will be better off dead.

I know, right? They track everyone's online activity, and yet, those who use the internet are still employed. Mind-boggling, I know.

So the true you is a bad role model so you hide that away from your kids. Got it! It's like I said, your kids will be better off dead. An early grave will be better for them than this. Worse than your character is that they've got you in their blood so they are already tainted.

But the "your kids will die" and "would be better off dead" tantrum never gets old, huh? Clearly, children would be better off with an unemployed loser who's all alone in the world, who can't provide ANYTHING because no one will hire them. Yup, that's the kind of role model kids in this world need, all right! Your parents must be so proud. 

Learn to work? From where? You're a corporate thief on IMDB all day. You can't preach something to your kids that you yourself don't practice. You have all this privilege yet like so many of your Republican kind do, you do nothing ethical with it but become a corporate thief and shyster. This is yet another reason why they would be better off dead.

I am not explaining diddly to child protective services. Like I said, your kids are going to be dead before they hit age 18 under your parenting because you're a fat corporate thief Republican and that's not in your children's best interest. You have a lot of privilege which you could be doing a lot with other than being a corporate thief. Get the hell off line and go rear your children and do your job. Got the nerve to be preaching to someone about work when you're a corporate thief. They need to take them kids away from you and put them out of your misery.

You're doing it again, pumpkin, repeating yourself. Do you just forget the insults you use three or four times per post?



[–] Tatmanlulu_BACK 8 years ago

Tarnation! At least these barf overload posts of yours are getting shorter. Gives you more time to actually work at your job. Before you were just bombarding me with this long-winded bs I didn't want to read like I was the employer asking for a report. I am not the employer. Your IT company is. Don't write me the speeches. Write them the speeches or the long-winded assessments. That's why they're paying you ... to WorKKKKKKKKKKKK!!!

And neither is NOT having a job, but at least I still get paid. You on the other hand, have to explain on job interviews why you go months on end without a job. Do you just tell them it's because you're a "double minority?"

No, I had a better game plan. On my next job interview during the questioning, I'm going to break out my lap top and have a conversation in IMDB's Game of Thrones section about why the users there refuse to pluck their nose hairs. When the interviewer asks me what's my greatest strength, I am going to tell her maturity and proceed to tell users online that they are tutus. When the interviewer asks me what interests me about the company in question, I will tell her that it looks like a great place I could build my IMDB presence by telling users on the site how they need to get to work. I will then pick up my lap top and go home.

Corporate thief, I have had plenty of jobs and never did I spend any of my time, let alone all the time you, interacting in cyberspace for non-work purposes. That's probably part of your privilege your a2ss hasn't been fired for that yet.

I know, right? They track everyone's online activity, and yet, those who use the internet are still employed. Mind-boggling, I know.

So is what you're telling me that your supervisors are well aware that a majority of your work hours are spent on IMDB squabbling back and forth with users about why they aren't working harder and clipping their nose hairs? Wow! And what's the name of this big-league IT company of yours anyway, Internet Playtime Incorporated?! So essentially I have been doing your job these last couple of days just without the pay. If that is not about a b2tch. And getting 6 figures at that. Where do I get an application to work at Internet Playtime Incorporated?!

But the "your kids will die" and "would be better off dead" tantrum never gets old, huh? Clearly, children would be better off with an unemployed loser who's all alone in the world, who can't provide ANYTHING because no one will hire them. Yup, that's the kind of role model kids in this world need, all right! Your parents must be so proud.

I don't have children, and I am not in my 40 referring to people as tutus online. I just turned 30 actually and have no kids. If I were a middle-aged like you and with kids to be role models to, I wouldn't be calling people tutus and dirty skanks online while in professional business environment. And then when challenged on this, I wouldn't use the excuse that I was trolled and that my kids aren't even watching me at the moment. Come on now!

You're doing it again, pumpkin, repeating yourself. Do you just forget the insults you use three or four times per post?

Now how much is it that your company plans to pay you for this posting, 500$? How does the pay plan work for every posting you make out? Are you paid a salary amount per IMDB posting to somebody, per hour you're on here or what? How does it work exactly? I notice you're using the word "pumpkin" a lot. Does that offer some kind of additional bonus payment plan?!

[–] Beck_Mill_00 8 years ago

Tarnation! At least these barf overload posts of yours are getting shorter. Gives you more time to actually work at your job. Before you were just bombarding me with this long-winded bs I didn't want to read like I was the employer asking for a report. I am not the employer. Your IT company is. Don't write me the speeches. Write them the speeches or the long-winded assessments.

Says the hypocrite "double-minority" who just posted a novel for a response! 

That's why they're paying you ... to WorKKKKKKKKKKKK!!!

That's right, Tutu, I WORRRKKK! You ought to try it...someday.  And while I'm working and making money, some database procedures run for hours processing data, and while those processes are running, wait for it...wait for it...I browse those interwebs. And then, I get paid! YAY! How much money did you make today, princess? 

No, I had a better game plan. On my next job interview during the questioning, I'm going to break out my lap top and have a conversation in IMDB's Game of Thrones section about why the users there refuse to pluck their nose hairs. When the interviewer asks me what's my greatest strength, I am going to tell her maturity and proceed to tell users online that they are tutus. When the interviewer asks me what interests me about the company in question, I will tell her that it looks like a great place I could build my IMDB presence by telling users on the site how they need to get to work. I will then pick up my lap top and go home.

Oh, no, Tutu! Take that same laptop and show them how you have tantrums where you say you want to spit in the faces of people who dare disagree with you, and in the faces of their spouses and children, too! Tell them you're so brilliant that admins have deleted posts of yours because they were just so...special.  When they ask you why you can't hold a job by looking at your practically empty résumé, be sure to tell them that it's because you're a "double-minority." When they then explain that they have other "double-minorities" who've been successfully employed by them for years, throw one of your famous tutu-tanrtums and tell them not to be obnoxious and that you won't acknowledge them. And in your usual snowflake-like tear-laiden speeches, say it seven times...in just one sentence. Immediate hire guaranteed! 

So is what you're telling me that your supervisors are well aware that a majority of your work hours are spent on IMDB squabbling back and forth with users about why they aren't working harder and clipping their nose hairs? Wow!

Yup, they see everyone's internet usage. I doubt they have the time to check every single web page, post, email, and all the content like you idiotically suggest, but yes, they know everyone's activity. Ah-mazing, right?!

And what's the name of this big-league IT company of yours anyway, Internet Playtime Incorporated?! So essentially I have been doing your job these last couple of days just without the pay. If that is not about a b2tch. And getting 6 figures at that. Where do I get an application to work at Internet Playtime Incorporated?!

It's an insurance company, and unless you're a seasoned actuary or someone with 10+ years of database and application development, they're not interested. But I'm sure there must be a company somewhere that will offer a great job to someone who calls people five pounds over their ideal weight "fatty fat Chris Christie fat cows" over and over...and over. 

I don't have children, and I am not in my 40 referring to people as tutus online.

You don't have a job either, you have to live off of mommy and daddy as a 30-something. 

If I were a middle-aged like you and with kids to be role models to, I wouldn't be calling people tutus and dirty skanks online while in professional business environment. And then when challenged on this, I wouldn't use the excuse that I was trolled and that my kids aren't even watching me at the moment. Come on now!

I know, you'd be hard at work...doing...oh that's right, no one will hire you!  And I'm sure you explain to your parents and all these long-distance boyfriends of yours that magically all just appeared that you label the words of people who disagree with you "rancid piss" and post "oink, oink, oink" like a toddler, too. They all must be so impressed!

Now how much is it that your company plans to pay you for this posting, 500$? How does the pay plan work for every posting you make out? Are you paid a salary amount per IMDB posting to somebody, per hour you're on here or what? How does it work exactly? I notice you're using the word "pumpkin" a lot. Does that offer some kind of additional bonus payment plan?!

I'm not sure what my bonus is going to be this year, but I have a feelings it's going to be good because all the different types of premiums written this year have had a good increase in volume, so I'd say...about $150 if we factor in the time, and my base and bonus. How much have you been making? Or did mommy and daddy's allowance check not clear? 

[–] Tatmanlulu_BACK 8 years ago

Says the hypocrite "double-minority" who just posted a novel for AND ON AND ON AND ON AND ON ABOUT MORE STUFF THAT HAS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH MY JOB THAT I SPEND ON IMDB WHILE ON THE CLOCK BECAUSE I'M A HARDWORKING CORPORATE THIEF

That's right, Tutu, I WORRRKKK! You ought to try it...someday. And while I'm working and making money, some database procedures run for hours processing data, and while those processes are running, wait for it...wait for it...AND ON AND ON AND ON AND ON ABOUT MORE STUFF THAT HAS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH MY JOB THAT I SPEND ON IMDB WHILE ON THE CLOCK BECAUSE I'M A HARDWORKING CORPORATE THIEF

Oh, no, Tutu! Take that same laptop and show them how you have tantrums where you say you want to spit in the faces of people who dare disagree with you, and in the faces of their spouses and children, too! Tell them you're so brilliant that admins have deleted posts of yours because they were just soAND ON AND ON AND ON AND ON ABOUT MORE STUFF THAT HAS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH MY JOB THAT I SPEND ON IMDB WHILE ON THE CLOCK BECAUSE I'M A HARDWORKING CORPORATE THIEF

Yup, they see everyone's internet usage. I doubt they have the time to check every single web page, post, email, and all the content like you idiotically suggest, but yes, AND ON AND ON AND ON AND ON ABOUT MORE STUFF THAT HAS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH MY JOB THAT I SPEND ON IMDB WHILE ON THE CLOCK BECAUSE I'M A HARDWORKING CORPORATE THIEF

I know, you'd be hard at work...doing...oh that's right, no one will hire you! And I'm sure you explain to your parents and all these long-distance boyfriends of yours that magically all just appeared that you label the words of AND ON AND ON AND ON AND ON ABOUT MORE STUFF THAT HAS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH MY JOB THAT I SPEND ON IMDB WHILE ON THE CLOCK BECAUSE I'M A HARDWORKING CORPORATE THIEF

I'm not sure what my bonus is going to be this year, but I have a feelings it's going to be good because all the different types of premiums written this year have had a good increase in volume, so I'd say...about $150 if we factor AND ON AND ON AND ON AND ON ABOUT MORE STUFF THAT HAS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH MY JOB THAT I SPEND ON IMDB WHILE ON THE CLOCK BECAUSE I'M A HARDWORKING CORPORATE THIEF

[–] Beck_Mill_00 8 years ago

Tutu is melting......MELTING! 

[–] tankitty 8 years ago

Tatman: Farmer Ben, you have any idea what the ole gal's been oinking about me?! I've been curious! The pink pigskin has been oinking at me rabidly for days

Farmer Ben: Could be the ole' gal's got some gunk up her vaginal region. A lot of times they'll get testy with you when they've got gunk lodged up there. So it's very likely she is oinking something unflattering about you. Trick is to keep calm with her at all times.

Tatman: Yea, I figured as much the ole' gal was oinking her displeasure and not anything flattering. Should I give her a shower. Do you think that would help?

Farmer Ben: ahhhhh! I wouldn't bother. Pink Pigskins like to be dirty. They're at home in filth.

Hey, Twatty! You're confusing me with "Scary Mary." Stop smelling your fingers and serve us up a hot order of a delicious McDonald's breakfast!

[–] Tatmanlulu_BACK 8 years ago

Hey, Twatty! You're confusing me with "Scary Mary."

OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!! Tankitty, I finally understood you and that was a good one though. That was a good one. Hahahahaha! Scary Mary could pass for a pig. 😂😂😂

[–] MiketheMechanic 8 years ago

It's not how old you are, it's how young you look and how healthy you are

I'm 54 and can pass for someone who's 40. But that doesn't make me 40! It shouldn't always be about how young someone looks.

They say that a lot of white guys age poorly because of the lack of melanin in their skin.

I don't know about that. Every body, every ethnicity is different. Saying a lot of white guys age poorly is just an assumption. No one knows that for certain.

To that extent I've seen (and dated) black men who were a certain age but looked older than their actual age.

So it's all relative. But it shouldn't always be about how old (or young) a person looks. Looks aren't everything.

[–] Tatmanlulu_BACK 8 years ago

I don't know about that. Every body, every ethnicity is different. Saying a lot of white guys age poorly is just an assumption. No one knows that for certain.

To that extent I've seen (and dated) black men who were a certain age but looked older than their actual age.

So it's all relative. But it shouldn't always be about how old (or young) a person looks. Looks aren't everything.

Well, you're right, it really shouldn't be that way, but it is that way. This is the gay community and looks are put as first priority. Just look at the way Pvd spends a vast majority of his post drooling over the "hot" guys on Judge Judy, not noticing anything else about the majority of the male litigants beyond their looks. It's how gay men are programmed unfortunately.

I am different. Looks aren't everything with me, they are only apart of the package. A guy has to be a non-smoker with me, non drug user, he can't be someone who has cheated on previous partners, he has to be masculine acting, he as to be romantic and like cuddling, etc. So looks are far from the whole package with me.

Yes, some black men look older but that is probably from poor hygiene. In general, if you take a healthy middle-class black male who has led a health middle-class lifestyle a healthy middle-class white male, the black male will age better. The sun ages white people's skin. That said if white people stay out of the sun and remain in doors for a majority of their lifetime managing to stay pale, then they may look young when older. But people in the white community look down on being pale.

[–] pvd295 8 years ago

The only thing that ever happens to me whenever I tell anybody my age at the bars and otherwise is disbelief that I am actually 30. I thought growing out my a light beard like I did recently would help people be able to tell my age a little better. However, a girl recently said the same thing that she thought I was in my young 20s.

Aside from appearance, there's also behavior that a person judges you on when determining your age.

From your actions on this board, you seem very immature for your age. I'm sure that's why a lot of people mistaken you for being in your early 20s - you have yet to grow up and act like a responsible 30 year old. That's not a compliment.

"Splodey heads keep splodin' " - Sarah Palin, 7-1-16 

[–] Tatmanlulu_BACK 8 years ago

Aside from appearance, there's also behavior that a person judges you on when determining your age.

From your actions on this board, you seem very immature for your age. I'm sure that's why a lot of people mistaken you for being in your early 20s - you have yet to grow up and act like a responsible 30 year old. That's not a compliment.

Says the 53 year old man who spends most of his IMDB post drooling after young 23 year olds rather than discussing anything about the case. And how the hell would someone who has never met me before who comes up to me at a bar know how I act?! You're just mad because I called you out because your old behind doesn't belong with someone in their early 20s. I am 30 and I don't even want a guy below 25 for goodness sakes.

[–] pvd295 8 years ago

I'm living vicariously though you. /: \. You think I want to up here on IMDB in as a 50 something year old man drooling over everything with a d*ck on it that shows up on Judge Judy because I don't have any man of my own at an age I am supposed to have a man. I My boyfriend of 4 years and I were the same age. He wasn't 30 years my junior.
You are even worse than a Republican because you're probably only a Democrat for some selfish reason. I have seen you on hear targeting women, black women and everything but white males. How *beep* dare you parade around The View message boards acting like some kind of respectable liberal you 50 somethings pedophiliac old coot. You need to be preparing for you golden years and go find a man from the nursing home and leave us young people the hell alone.

If I were you, I wouldn't be to wishful for the new year. As I said, it's another year you will age and white skin DOES NOT age gracefully. Not only am I twice as young as you are, but I am also told that physically I could pass for 20 still because black don't crack. The last thing I need is for some old pervert who since on these boards drooling over all the young guys on Judge Judy trying to tell me how to live life productively. Chasing after young people and drooling over every young man on Judge Judy is hardly living life productively or non-creepily.

PS I just got hit on by the 9th hundredth time by an old guy like you via my e-mail. He is someone you belong with. He like 47. Give me your e-mail so I can hook you up with someone age-appropriate for your old @ss!

Oh well - I tried. No more I can do.

Continue playing the minority victim - make that 'double minority' victim. You'll go far in life. 

"Splodey heads keep splodin' " - Sarah Palin, 7-1-16 

[–] Tatmanlulu_BACK 8 years ago

Oh well - I tried. No more I can do.

Continue playing the minority victim - make that 'double minority' victim. You'll go far in life.

I am on top of the world today. =D =D =D I was officially asked to be in a live-in relationship with a guy I have been dating for a few months just last night. ;) Truth be told, I have been in a bad mood all week because he suddenly stopped talking to me last week Thursday, causing me to think he was no longer interested. He contacted me back last night explaining the whole situation, that his cell phone broke and how he loves me via e-mail and how he hopes I didn't move on or feel like I was being ignored, that he I am the love of his life and he wants to resume our plans for me to move in with him to his new place in early January. =D =D =D

It's been made official. I have found my soul mate, all. =D =D =D I will be relocating from here in Wisconsin to Missouri to live with MY MANNNNNN at the beginning of January. I will be working in his self-employed company with him. He says he could really use Bachelor's Degree in Advertising and Journalism. =D We have been talking all day. He is 25 and has his own home by the way. Hehehehehehe! Booooooyyaaaahhhhhh bitchezzzzzzzzz! 😀😀😀

And look! For what it's worth, sorry for going in on you like a bat out of hell about your advanced age and chasing after young boys, but this week was a bad time to test me Pvd, a very bad time and you tested me. Thinking I had lost my man and the life we had planning together for several weeks, I was on the warpath. That said, I am kind of glad I was. In truth, you deserved it for a lot of your bs about minority women, women, gay black men, and other Fox News bs. You're a closet Republican gay man of all things, spewing old battle-ax conservative views from the 1950s when you were a kid. What's sad is you don't even know it. Then got the nerve to trash on the Republicans over on The View message board like you're not one of them. When was the last time the Republican Party welcomes in 53 year old gay men who chase after 23 year olds. Tell me that Pvd.

[–] pvd295 8 years ago

I am on top of the world today. =D =D =D I was officially asked to be in a live-in relationship with a guy I have been dating for a few months just last night. ;) Truth be told, I have been in a bad mood all week because he suddenly stopped talking to me last week Thursday, causing me to think he was no longer interested. He contacted me back last night explaining the whole situation, that his cell phone broke and how he loves me via e-mail and how he hopes I didn't move on or feel like I was being ignored, that he I am the love of his life and he wants to resume our plans for me to move in with him to his new place in early January. =D =D =D

It's been made official. I have found my soul mate, all. =D =D =D I will be relocating from here in Wisconsin to Missouri to live with MY MANNNNNN at the beginning of January. I will be working in his self-employed company with him. He says he could really use Bachelor's Degree in Advertising and Journalism. =D We have been talking all day. He is 25 and has his own home by the way. Hehehehehehe! Booooooyyaaaahhhhhh bitchezzzzzzzzz! 😀😀😀

And look! For what it's worth, sorry for going in on you like a bat out of hell about your advanced age and chasing after young boys, but this week was a bad time to test me Pvd, a very bad time and you tested me. Thinking I had lost my man and the life we had planning together for several weeks, I was on the warpath. That said, I am kind of glad I was. In truth, you deserved it for a lot of your bs about minority women, women, gay black men, and other Fox News bs. You're a closet Republican gay man of all things, spewing old battle-ax conservative views from the 1950s when you were a kid. What's sad is you don't even know it. Then got the nerve to trash on the Republicans over on The View message board like you're not one of them. When was the last time the Republican Party welcomes in 53 year old gay men who chase after 23 year olds. Tell me that Pvd.

Like I said, appearance is half the impression and behavior is the other half. Your post above is that of an 18 year old, not a 30 year old. Very immature and desperate.

Don't move everything into your new place in January - I can tell you right now this is not going to last...not even ten days. You're not ready for any kind of serious relationship - you're way too immature.

"Splodey heads keep splodin' " - Sarah Palin, 7-1-16 

[–] Tatmanlulu_BACK 8 years ago

Like I said, appearance is half the impression and behavior is the other half. Your post above is that of an 18 year old, not a 30 year old. Very immature and desperate.

Don't move everything into your new place in January - I can tell you right now this is not going to last...not even ten days. You're not ready for any kind of serious relationship - you're way too immature.

Why shouldn't I move everything into our new place in January Pvd?! He doesn't dedicate a bunch of posts to bellyaching about how black women have it better on Judge Judy with their "attitude problems" and "boobs sagging to the table" and should be insulted on their appearances too, then turns around and preaches never to play victim and that such behavior is shameful (LMFAO). He doesn't imply that complaining to how others have advantages is reserved only for gay white males like yourself who have problems with minorities and black women. My man does not engage in such bigoted, racist and sexist behaviors like that. It's not like he is unable to recognize that the average black person in this country is met with struggles that the average white male is not. He has acknowledged that it's not an even level playing field between a gay black male and straight white male or gay white males.

My man does not spew Republican rhetoric of this nature and tell people to grow up, all the while checking out every young male on Judge Judy as his review of the case--all the while dating young 20 somethings at 53.

You've disappointed me. I was shocked when I saw that posting about minorities and even more so these Fox News post you've been posting to me. I am probably more p2ssed with you than anyone else I've ever been with on IMDB because you have been a fake. I don't know what happened to you in these last couple weeks. And it's unique to this message board because you're nothing like this on The View page. I almost wonder if your account has been hacked by one of the Republicans at The View.

Your behaviors as between The View message board and here our very self-contradictory. Here, you're a Republican who plays the victim on how black women have it better on Judge Judy while then telling racial minorities not to play victim. Here, you allege everything is equal for minorities and gay blacks. On The View, you praise Whoopi Goldberg and the liberals on their rundown of the mistreatment of blacks. Either you are fake there or here.

Traditional Republicans would be grossed out and appalled by a 53 year old gay male traipsing around with a 23 year old guy, so I'm very confused why you're Fox Newsing around on these boards. Perhaps you're liberal for some selfish reason though and I shouldn't trust white liberals. A lot of Republicans have told me not to trust white liberals that they are underhanded and conniving, much more racist than they. Maybe they're right!

[–] pvd295 8 years ago

Tutu is melting......MELTING!

Sad to say, but it looks more and more like 'holiday depression' to me. When people are depressed around the holidays (Thanksgiving, Christmas, New Year's) they tend to behave like him - lashing out at everyone around them with no logic or reason. They then try to paint a false idyllic life for themselves (his sudden posts about how popular he is and everyone wants to be with him). It's a heavy time of year for them, and I truly feel sad for him.

"Splodey heads keep splodin' " - Sarah Palin, 7-1-16 

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[–] pvd295 8 years ago

Why shouldn't I move everything into our new place in January Pvd?! He doesn't dedicate a bunch of posts to bellyaching about how black women have it better on Judge Judy with their "attitude problems" and "boobs sagging to the table" and should be insulted on their appearances too, then turns around and preaches never to play victim and that such behavior is shameful (LMFAO). He doesn't imply that complaining to how others have advantages is reserved only for gay white males like yourself who have problems with minorities and black women. My man does not engage in such bigoted, racist and sexist behaviors like that. It's not like he is unable to recognize that the average black person in this country is met with struggles that the average white male is not. He has acknowledged that it's not an even level playing field between a gay black male and straight white male or gay white males.

My man does not spew Republican rhetoric of this nature and tell people to grow up, all the while checking out every young male on Judge Judy as his review of the case--all the while dating young 20 somethings at 53.

You've disappointed me. I was shocked when I saw that posting about minorities and even more so these Fox News post you've been posting to me. I am probably more p2ssed with you than anyone else I've ever been with on IMDB because you have been a fake. I don't know what happened to you in these last couple weeks. And it's unique to this message board because you're nothing like this on The View page. I almost wonder if your account has been hacked by one of the Republicans at The View.

Your behaviors as between The View message board and here our very self-contradictory. Here, you're a Republican who plays the victim on how black women have it better on Judge Judy while then telling racial minorities not to play victim. Here, you allege everything is equal for minorities and gay blacks. On The View, you praise Whoopi Goldberg and the liberals on their rundown of the mistreatment of blacks. Either you are fake there or here.

Traditional Republicans would be grossed out and appalled by a 53 year old gay male traipsing around with a 23 year old guy, so I'm very confused why you're Fox Newsing around on these boards. Perhaps you're liberal for some selfish reason though and I shouldn't trust white liberals. A lot of Republicans have told me not to trust white liberals that they are underhanded and conniving, much more racist than they. Maybe they're right!

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"Splodey heads keep splodin' " - Sarah Palin, 7-1-16 

[–] Beck_Mill_00 8 years ago

I am on top of the world today. =D =D =D I was officially asked to be in a live-in relationship with a guy I have been dating for a few months just last night. ;) Truth be told, I have been in a bad mood all week because he suddenly stopped talking to me last week Thursday, causing me to think he was no longer interested. He contacted me back last night explaining the whole situation, that his cell phone broke and how he loves me via e-mail and how he hopes I didn't move on or feel like I was being ignored, that he I am the love of his life and he wants to resume our plans for me to move in with him to his new place in early January. =D =D =D

It's been made official. I have found my soul mate, all. =D =D =D I will be relocating from here in Wisconsin to Missouri to live with MY MANNNNNN at the beginning of January. I will be working in his self-employed company with him. He says he could really use Bachelor's Degree in Advertising and Journalism. =D We have been talking all day. He is 25 and has his own home by the way. Hehehehehehe! Booooooyyaaaahhhhhh bitchezzzzzzzzz! 😀😀😀

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OK, everyone, raise your hand if you believe this little fiction.

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Yeah, me neither.

We have this guy going on and on and on....and on, about how he can't find work or a significant other to "rely on" and it's all because he's a "double-minority" and because moving is soooooo hard. After getting called on his victimhood repeatedly and all his childish name-calling replies (some of which were even deleted by admins) he magically has a stable of "long distance" relationships to choose from, one of which is this guy he's apparently been dating for months. Um-hmmm. Now, this one who is 25 is not only his soul mate, but also has his own home AND a business in which he's willing to hire him as someone he only knows through mostly long-distnace correspondence. And now, suddenly, moving isn't that much of a problem, somehow. 

Anyone believing this, please contact me for a beautiful bridge I have for sale, complete with 1,000 acres of swampland right below it. 

Even if there are some pigeons here, gullible enough to buy this, let's pretend this story is real (yeah, right )... who thinks it's a wonderful idea to relocate to a place hundreds of miles away with someone you hardly know, move in with them, AND start working for them...especially after being unemployed and not in a relationship for so long? You know, the professional victim type...

Oh that's right, the typical JJ litigant, that's who! 

[–] jmichael3387 8 years ago

Judge Judy is correct. There's a lot of excuse-making about why people don't work. Blaming it on everything but themselves.

Plus 40% of the country is on welfare.

[–] pvd295 8 years ago

OK, everyone, raise your hand if you believe this little fiction.

Yeah, me neither.

We have this guy going on and on and on....and on, about how he can't find work or a significant other to "rely on" and it's all because he's a "double-minority" and because moving is soooooo hard. After getting called on his victimhood repeatedly and all his childish name-calling replies (some of which were even deleted by admins) he magically has a stable of "long distance" relationships to choose from, one of which is this guy he's apparently been dating for months. Um-hmmm. Now, this one who is 25 is not only his soul mate, but also has his own home AND a business in which he's willing to hire him as someone he only knows through mostly long-distnace correspondence. And now, suddenly, moving isn't that much of a problem, somehow.

Anyone believing this, please contact me for a beautiful bridge I have for sale, complete with 1,000 acres of swampland right below it.

Even if there are some pigeons here, gullible enough to buy this, let's pretend this story is real (yeah, right )... who thinks it's a wonderful idea to relocate to a place hundreds of miles away with someone you hardly know, move in with them, AND start working for them...especially after being unemployed and not in a relationship for so long? You know, the professional victim type...

Oh that's right, the typical JJ litigant, that's who!

The funniest and most honest post I have ever read in my life!!! Thank you, my friend. I can't stop laughing!

"Splodey heads keep splodin' " - Sarah Palin, 7-1-16 

[–] Tatmanlulu_BACK 8 years ago

OK, everyone, raise your hand if you believe this little fiction.

Yeah, me neither.

We have this guy going on and on and on....and on, about how he can't find work or a significant other to "rely on" and it's all because he's a "double-minority" and because moving is soooooo hard. After getting called on his victimhood repeatedly and all his childish name-calling replies (some of which were even deleted by admins) he magically has a stable of "long distance" relationships to choose from, one of which is this guy he's apparently been dating for months. Um-hmmm. Now, this one who is 25 is not only his soul mate, but also has his own home AND a business in which he's willing to hire him as someone he only knows through mostly long-distnace correspondence. And now, suddenly, moving isn't that much of a problem, somehow.

Anyone believing this, please contact me for a beautiful bridge I have for sale, complete with 1,000 acres of swampland right below it.

Even if there are some pigeons here, gullible enough to buy this, let's pretend this story is real (yeah, right )... who thinks it's a wonderful idea to relocate to a place hundreds of miles away with someone you hardly know, move in with them, AND start working for them...especially after being unemployed and not in a relationship for so long? You know, the professional victim type...

Oh that's right, the typical JJ litigant, that's who!

Hello Beck Mill and how are you today?! =D Sorry about the drama last week, man. I was in the zone and it was a bad week to come sideways at me like you were doing. I should have just had my say and ignored you from there and not entertained it. I ravaged you like a dog and said a lot of inappropriate stuff. Sorry about the jabs at your children. But this week, I am back to normal. And sorry you don't believe my boyfriend exists, but what can you do! Best wishes to you and your family.

Also, hey, have you checked out my new "Judge Judy Vs Cartoon Series" promo over at YouTube? Just put it together yesterday for my pending 15th episode https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lXB09E6jPbU. Check it out if you like and if you don't, then don't.

Merry Christmas and peace out!

[–] Tatmanlulu_BACK 8 years ago

OK, everyone, raise your hand if you believe this little fiction.

Yeah, me neither.

We have this guy going on and on and on....and on, about how he can't find work or a significant other to "rely on" and it's all because he's a "double-minority" and because moving is soooooo hard. After getting called on his victimhood repeatedly and all his childish name-calling replies (some of which were even deleted by admins) he magically has a stable of "long distance" relationships to choose from, one of which is this guy he's apparently been dating for months. Um-hmmm. Now, this one who is 25 is not only his soul mate, but also has his own home AND a business in which he's willing to hire him as someone he only knows through mostly long-distnace correspondence. And now, suddenly, moving isn't that much of a problem, somehow.

Anyone believing this, please contact me for a beautiful bridge I have for sale, complete with 1,000 acres of swampland right below it.

Even if there are some pigeons here, gullible enough to buy this, let's pretend this story is real (yeah, right )... who thinks it's a wonderful idea to relocate to a place hundreds of miles away with someone you hardly know, move in with them, AND start working for them...especially after being unemployed and not in a relationship for so long? You know, the professional victim type...

Oh that's right, the typical JJ litigant, that's who!

Note to self! Never rush things. This guy I was all excited about turned out to be the world's biggest nut case. So scratch what I said last week Beck. That freak is NOT my boyfriend. I am just biting myself because I turned down a really sweet guy who responded to my dating profile last week because I thought this other freak was the one. I told the guy interested in dating me last Thursday that I couldn't because I have a boyfriend. DAMMIT!!!! Why must gay men have soooooooooooooooooooo many issues and be terrible communicators?! TELL ME WHY WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY???!!!!

Well anyways, I put my dating profile back up and got a new respondent. I will moving much much slower with guys because gay men have some serious issues.

[–] tankitty 8 years ago

Well anyways, I put my dating profile back up and got a new respondent. I will moving much much slower with guys because gay men have some serious issues.

Yeah, obviously they do have serious issues. You're proof of that! Hahahaha!

[–] Tatmanlulu_BACK 8 years ago

Yeah, obviously they do have serious issues. You're proof of that! Hahahaha!

Shut up, Sockpuppet!!!

[–] tankitty 8 years ago

Shut up, Sockpuppet!!!

I'll send you another private message and tell you all about Gubbio! Haha! Did you know the lightbulb is singing? I like that song: "when you're alone, and life is making you lonely, you can always go. Downtown." Makes me think of when I was a young girl and would run away and go downtown and sell potato chips on the corner. They arrested me because I said, "Lays, 10 cents a piece." There wasn't anything wrong with that, was there?

YOu and me are soulmates, Tatman. I like how you listen to everything I say and believe it, too. I don't care if youre gay, I have lots of gay friends. They do my hair and redecorate my homeless shelter room.

Lalala!

[–] MiketheMechanic 8 years ago

Note to self! Never rush things. This guy I was all excited about turned out to be the world's biggest nut case. So scratch what I said last week Beck. That freak is NOT my boyfriend. I am just biting myself because I turned down a really sweet guy who responded to my dating profile last week because I thought this other freak was the one. I told the guy interested in dating me last Thursday that I couldn't because I have a boyfriend. DAMMIT!!!! Why must gay men have soooooooooooooooooooo many issues and be terrible communicators?! TELL ME WHY WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY???!!!!

Well anyways, I put my dating profile back up and got a new respondent. I will moving much much slower with guys because gay men have some serious issues.

Sorry to hear that. This happens quite often when one is trying to prove something to others.

When you're ready to stop trying to prove yourself to others and find yourself, and find true happiness within yourself then love will find you.

Love always finds those who love themselves first.

As for gay men having serious issues, it's often because they focus on the exterior of a person and not the interior. It's like buying a used car, it's very pretty on the outside and you're instantly attracted to it but once you get inside you notice how much maintenance it needs and you're not quite sure that you're ready for that type of commitment just yet.

[–] ScaryMary123 8 years ago

because they focus on the exterior of a person and not the interior. It's like buying a used car, it's very pretty on the outside and you're instantly attracted to it but once you get inside you notice how much it maintenance it needs and you're not quite sure that you're ready for that type of commitment just yet.

Last I checked, you don't screw a car.

[–] tankitty 8 years ago

Apparently, Mike the frickin' mechanic does.

[–] pvd295 8 years ago

Why shouldn't I move everything into our new place in January Pvd?! He doesn't dedicate a bunch of posts to bellyaching about how black women have it better on Judge Judy with their "attitude problems" and "boobs sagging to the table" and should be insulted on their appearances too, then turns around and preaches never to play victim and that such behavior is shameful (LMFAO). He doesn't imply that complaining to how others have advantages is reserved only for gay white males like yourself who have problems with minorities and black women. My man does not engage in such bigoted, racist and sexist behaviors like that. It's not like he is unable to recognize that the average black person in this country is met with struggles that the average white male is not. He has acknowledged that it's not an even level playing field between a gay black male and straight white male or gay white males.

And then he turned into a real "nutcase" and the romance is over before you even packed your dirty underwear. Wow....how did I see that coming?

gay men have some serious issues

Not all gay men - just the 30 year old 'double-minorities' who act like 16.

"Splodey heads keep splodin' " - Sarah Palin, 7-1-16 

[–] Tatmanlulu_BACK 8 years ago

And then he turned into a real "nutcase" and the romance is over before you even packed your dirty underwear. Wow....how did I see that coming?

Not all gay men - just the 30 year old 'double-minorities' who act like 16.

That's why you lost your ex-boyfriend love of your life and are now an old fogy chasing after folks half your age, old fogy!!!

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[–] Syn84 8 years ago

Well, applying to a crappy job or remaining unemployed aren't the only options available.

Just to clear something up, I wasn't talking about you personally. I was talking about those people who usually complain about not being able to find work - people who usually appear on JJ. It appears for those people these are only two options.

Just take me for instance: When I saw that the Uber position you were telling me about wouldn't allow me to live independently ...

I never lived off the Uber. Uber was my addition to full-time employment. I usually worked on Fridays from 4-8 pm and Saturdays from 9-12 am. On average, I made app. $100-$150/week. That's $400-600 EXTRA per month, times 12 months ... I saved enough to take any vacation I wanted to every summer. Even if I didn't spend that money on vacation, it would've been a nice down payment on a new car, house, etc.

It can hold me over until I find something glamorous.

That was my whole point about everything. I didn't mean "make a career out of Uber". My point was "its better to have any job (if nothing else is available) than to have no job".

I have chosen to spend the majority of my day, my time and my energy dedicated to hunting for a job that I can actually live on.

If I'm understanding this correctly, you have been out of job since June, correct? Did you really use 40 hours per week in searching for a new job for the past 5 months? If you worked during that time (even at the minimum wage job) you could've made at least $5,000 during that time - and you still had 16 hours left every day to look for better work. You could've done both (been there, done that).

More and more Jobs will continue to low ball job applicants if there are great amounts of job applicants like yourself willing to allow that.

I'm assuming that you had somebody pay your bills during the time that you were searching for a job, right? Some of us don't have that luxury. Rent, utilities, student loan - they're all due on the 1st of the month. I didn't work low paying job because "I allowed somebody to use me" - I did ti because I had no other choice. I mean, there was one other choice - sign up for 5 credit cards and max them out or take student loans to live of them - then I would be just like people who appear on JJ.

As I will not get the enjoyments out of life that you undoubtedly will as a heterosexual white male, I would rather not spend a huge bulk of my day even more stressed and miserable at a dinky job in which I am unable to even support myself.

Dude, you take this whole "job" thing little too seriously. Job doesn't define who you are. As said, I have two college degrees and I made extra money by driving kids from UWM to Brady/Water St. Was I happy? Hell no. But I also wasn't miserable. The way I see it, it was extra $400-$600 in my pocket every month and driving a car was much more relaxing that starring at the computer and working on paperwork (at least it was for me). But over time, I started to like it - I met so many interesting people (believe it or not, I even drove Donald Driver once).

Sometime life is not for enjoyment. Sometime you (and I don't mean "you" personally) need to do things in life that you dislike in order to "cancel out" other things in life that you dislike. Translator: working at McDonalds/Uber is a lesser of two evils compare to being unemployed. Which was would you choose? That's up to you.

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When I die, I want to be buried face down. That way whoever doesn't like me can kiss my ass.

[–] Tatmanlulu_BACK 8 years ago

If I'm understanding this correctly, you have been out of job since June, correct? Did you really use 40 hours per week in searching for a new job for the past 5 months? If you worked during that time (even at the minimum wage job) you could've made at least $5,000 during that time - and you still had 16 hours left every day to look for better work. You could've done both (been there, done that).

I beg your pardon!!!!! You got a lot of damn nerve. No I didn't reeeeeeeeeeally use 40 hours per week over the past 5 months searching for a new job, and if I reeeeeeeeally want to use 40 hours of the week over 5 months searching for a job, that's reeeeeeeeeeeeally my goddamn prerogative. As I made clear to you, my Home Health Care job didn't end until September and I got hired in October for another position, but as usual you're half-reading stuff and then replying all off the mark. On top of that, I was doing a volunteer program that I've used to support myself as well. This is all beside the point. DON'T cross a line with me in discussion. You did this crap once before and I had to make it clear to your ass what time it was and I won't hesitate to do it again on the spot.

Dude, you take this whole "job" thing little too seriously. Job doesn't define who you are. As said, I have two college degrees and I made extra money by driving kids from UWM to Brady/Water St. Was I happy? Hell no. But I also wasn't miserable. The way I see it, it was extra $400-$600 in my pocket every month and driving a car was much more relaxing that starring at the computer and working on paperwork (at least it was for me). But over time, I started to like it - I met so many interesting people (believe it or not, I even drove Donald Driver once).

I take this whole job thing too seriously?! I've got a little news for you: a job is seeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeerioooooooooooooooooooous for Christ's sake. It's how you earn a liiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiving. That's seeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeerious! Please stop sitting up here acting like you're someone of some kind of special strength, endurance and determination because you've overcome dinky ass jobs that you didn't like. If I had a wife making as much as yours makes splitting bill payments with me as you did when you were living in Wisconsin, I would delight in having the option of taking on all the dinky jobs you did. Unfortunately, riding solo those jobs won't cut it. As I've explained to you repeatedly, I do not have a wife to help support me so I do not have your various advantageous to take on a collection of crappy jobs that you could only get hired for.

Sometime life is not for enjoyment. Sometime you (and I don't mean "you" personally) need to do things in life that you dislike in order to "cancel out" other things in life that you dislike. Translator: working at McDonalds/Uber is a lesser of two evils compare to being unemployed. Which was would you choose? That's up to you.

I do not need a str8 white man with a wife who helps support him giving me a lecture on how life isn't always enjoyable. I actually find it insulting when privileged individuals dare to give a lecture to someone with a struggle much more acute than their asses will ever know. You haven't walked a day in my shoes, so I'll thank you to behave as though cognizant of the fact.

Just to clear something up, I wasn't talking about you personally. I was talking about those people who usually complain about not being able to find work - people who usually appear on JJ. It appears for those people these are only two options.

It's extremely important for you to refrain from judging the job and economic situations of the people who appear on Judge Judy, many of which came from low socioeconomic backgrounds. It's easy for people who come from more advantageous positions in life to sit up here and judge the lives of individuals who have had it much rougher than they have. A majority of Judge Judy litigants look like they started out in struggling ghetto environments, like the two women suing each other over the dog that jumped the fence. It's not fair for you to sit here and judge individuals who come from lower-class lifestyles and rough roads.

I never lived off the Uber. Uber was my addition to full-time employment. I usually worked on Fridays from 4-8 pm and Saturdays from 9-12 am. On average, I made app. $100-$150/week. That's $400-600 EXTRA per month, times 12 months ... I saved enough to take any vacation I wanted to every summer. Even if I didn't spend that money on vacation, it would've been a nice down payment on a new car, house, etc.

You may not have lived off Uber, but you were the one making it out to be a realistic means of supporting oneself, nobody else. When I made a simple statement that it is difficult finding legitimate jobs that can support oneself in today's world and it's a lot more complicated than "collect cans," you said "GO UBER!!!" Now you're explaining that you didn't even really live off Uber, that it doesn't offer much money. Yet you said "GO UBER" in response to my original statement that it was difficult to decent jobs these days that can support oneself. That especially goes in reference to the litigants on Judge Judy who have children to support.

[–] Syn84 8 years ago

Everything is your prerogative. Nobody is holding a gun to your head and making you do anything. My original comment about collecting cans and driving Uber wasn't even directed to you, so I'm not sure why you had a need to even start the conversation with me. I heard this exact conversation from you two years ago; I see that nothing have changed.

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[–] Beck_Mill_00 8 years ago

Again, I would be living independently if I left my parents' home without a spouse to rely on as you, a str8 white male, are afforded.

Gay non-white males can't rely on their significant others (or spouses, depending on the state)?

[–] pvd295 8 years ago

Gay non-white males can't rely on their significant others (or spouses, depending on the state)?

Thanks for pointing that out, B-M. I didn't catch that ridiculous statement the first time around.

"Splodey heads keep splodin' " - Sarah Palin, 7-1-16 

[–] Tatmanlulu_BACK 8 years ago

That's not the point. It's astronomically harder for gay men, let alone gay black men, to find happy, successful relationships as compared to a heterosexual male for a whole host of reasons. If I were straight, I could land nice enough woman and be in a happy relationship within 3 months, such is not the case as a gay male, let alone a black gay male. I have had plenty a nice looking girls even hit on me.

[–] MiketheMechanic 8 years ago

To be fair, tat, it's hard for most gay males, regardless of color to find and secure successful relationships.

As with straight men, there are gay males who are primarily seeking only the physical aspect of a relationship, thereby limiting themselves when it comes to forming and maintaining relationships.

[–] Beck_Mill_00 8 years ago

It's astronomically harder for gay men, let alone gay black men, to find happy, successful relationships as compared to a heterosexual male for a whole host of reasons.

And yet, millions of gays and lesbians around the world somehow manage to find love and solid relationships. What magical power do they possess, that you do not?

If I were straight, I could land nice enough woman and be in a happy relationship within 3 months, such is not the case as a gay male, let alone a black gay male.

Well, that's an absolutely ridiculous assumption. If just being straight and white were the only prerequisites for the guarantee of a "happy relationship within 3 months," the huge host of online dating services wouldn't even exist, let alone thriving as they do....many, if not most, of which also cater to gay people.

[–] pvd295 8 years ago

And yet, millions of gays and lesbians around the world somehow manage to find love and solid relationships. What magical power do they possess, that you do not?

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Well, that's an absolutely ridiculous assumption. If just being straight and white were the only prerequisites for the guarantee of a "happy relationship within 3 months," the huge host of online dating services wouldn't even exist, let alone thriving as they do....many, if not most, of which also cater to gay people.

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"Splodey heads keep splodin' " - Sarah Palin, 7-1-16 

[–] Tatmanlulu_BACK 8 years ago

Errr... Pvd, you're a 50+ year old single gay man and you're clapping at her posting that millions of gay people can get relationships, so what magic do they have that I don't.
You were recently chasing a guy less than half your age and it didn't work out and you're sitting here clapping. Saddest part is you still haven't found the one yet and your life is half over. :)

[–] Tatmanlulu_BACK 8 years ago

And yet, millions of gays and lesbians around the world somehow manage to find love and solid relationships. What magical power do they possess, that you do not?

What an obnoxious response! I make the very valid point that it's light-years harder for gay men to find happy, loving relationships than it is for heterosexual people. You respond by basically saying "But a lot of gays are doing it, so why can't you? What magic power do they have you don't" Incredibly obnoxious.

Plenty of millionaires in the world. WHY CAN'T YOU?! Plenty of people who own their own companies in the world. WHY CAN'T YOU? Answer, not everyone has the same circumstances, lives in the same place, encounters the same luck and advantages. A lot of successful relationships happen in San Francisco where there's a lot of gay people. The majority of the US is rural and people grow up in places where that isn't possible. Think before you put those fingers of yours on that keyboard and write me something obnoxious. You got that?

Well, that's an absolutely ridiculous assumption. If just being straight and white were the only prerequisites for the guarantee of a "happy relationship within 3 months," the huge host of online dating services wouldn't even exist, let alone thriving as they do....many, if not most, of which also cater to gay people.

Take my point for what it is and don't be obnoxious. My point for what it is is that I myself have had plenty opportunities to be in a heterosexual relationship with the looks, qualities, characteristics I bring to the table. Bringing those SAME looks, qualities, characteristics to the table in the gay community, I haven't had remotely the same number of opportunities for a happy, homosexual relationship. The reason for that is more people are straight than gay, more people are accepting of heterosexual relationships, more women are interested in relationships than gay men, etc.

I mean, come on gal, this isn't logic that's hard to understand. I think you're here more to be obnoxious rather than have an intelligent debate, which is very sad.

[–] Beck_Mill_00 8 years ago

What an obnoxious response! I make the very valid point that it's light-years harder for gay men to find happy, loving relationships than it is for heterosexual people. You respond by basically saying "But a lot of gays are doing it, so why can't you? What magic power do they have you don't" Incredibly obnoxious.

What's obnoxious about it? Millions of homosexuals worldwide DO find loving and stable relationships. My cousin and brother-in-law are perfect examples. What's so special about them, and all other who've found good strong relationships? Neither of them are ugly, but not particularly good looking, either. They both have decent jobs, but aren't millionaires, and neither are their partners. They don't live in San Francisco, either, one is on the outskirts of Boston, and the other in Miami.

Care to try again?

Plenty of millionaires in the world. WHY CAN'T YOU?! Plenty of people who own their own companies in the world. WHY CAN'T YOU?

I'm not the one claiming everyone has it better and easier than me in life because (insert whatever reasons/excuses here) and insisting it's why I can't succeed, that's what YOU'RE doing. My wife and kids and I are very happy with how much we make and the life we live. And even though I'm not whining non-stop like you are, I can actually answer the question. My wife and I make decent money, without being millionaires and having huge companies...Why? Because we never originated an innovative idea, invested the time and money into it, took all the risk, worked tirelessly and ridiculously exorbitant hours realizing it, faced rejection after rejection after rejection, and all the other things that come with becoming a self-made millionaire...and therefore didn't come up with a product or service groundbreaking enough to start a company worth millions. We don't need to make excuses for not having more than our good middle-class life and insist those with more than what we have must have got where they are because of their sexual orientations, looks, height, eye color, hair color, weight, religion, college they went to, sports they played, family money, connections, etc... I didn't even need to answer the question, because I realize a great life can be lived even without being a millionaire, and I don't begrudge anyone who has more than me (whether they're part of the VAST majority of who were self-made or the much smaller group of those who inherited their wealth) by acting like a perpetual victim insisting the deck of life is stacked against me.

Answer, not everyone has the same circumstances, lives in the same place, encounters the same luck and advantages.

Brace yourself. This is true for absolutely everyone on the planet, not just you.

A lot of successful relationships happen in San Francisco where there's a lot of gay people. The majority of the US is rural and people grow up in places where that isn't possible.

Successful relationships happen in many more places, too. Ah-mazing, I know.

My cousin tells me that large cities across the country also have had sizable gay communities for quite some time, and in fact, many suburban and rural areas do too, now. I can't verify this, but I can't think of a reason why he'd lie about it, either. What, exactly, is preventing you from moving to areas with larger and more accessible gay populations?

Think before you put those fingers of yours on that keyboard and write me something obnoxious. You got that?

Sorry, snowflake, if I feel like hopping into any discussion on an internet message board, designed for discussion, I'm going to do so, whether you find it obnoxious or not. YOU got that?

Take my point for what it is and don't be obnoxious.

If you don't want people disagreeing or questioning what you post on an internet message board open to all, then don't post it on an internet message board open to all. Otherwise, it's fair game. Commanding people to just "take your point and don't be obnoxious" is what's truly obnoxious, and well, childish to boot.

My point for what it is is that I myself have had plenty opportunities to be in a heterosexual relationship with the looks, qualities, characteristics I bring to the table. Bringing those SAME looks, qualities, characteristics to the table in the gay community, I haven't had remotely the same number of opportunities for a happy, homosexual relationship.

Unless you're claiming you can just make yourself straight on demand, or thought you'd be successfully stored in the closet the rest of your life, those "opportunities" you claim aren't even relevant. Using this whiny logic I could claim that, with my athletic ability, I could have been a superstar in the NFL, but at only 5'8" and 170 lbs, I just didn't have remotely the same opportunities as the majority of men on the planet who are taller and bigger than me, and therefore, was robbed of the chance to be a star defensive tackle and to have married a super-model. Unlike you, I'm not blaming my short height (something I can't control) and lighter weight (which takes a lot for me to change) for my lot in life. And I don't need to, because I'm happy with where I am, and how I worked at getting here, instead of insisting most men who are taller and heavier than me have it easier in all aspects of life, especially getting into the NFL and marrying super-models.

The reason for that is more people are straight than gay,

True, but if 10% of the adult planet is gay (just throwing that number out there, it may be higher or lower, I don't know) and half of that 10% are gay men and the other half of that are lesbians, that's still hundreds of millions to choose from.

more people are accepting of heterosexual relationships,

Which is irrelevant because you and your spouse/partner are all that matter when it comes to the finances you said someone else was "relying" on.

more women are interested in relationships than gay men, etc.

Also irrelevant for the reason above, and for the mere fact it's not your market.

I mean, come on gal, this isn't logic that's hard to understand. I think you're here more to be obnoxious rather than have an intelligent debate, which is very sad.

"Gal?" I'm a guy, maybe the "beck" in my name is what confused you, doesn't matter. But anyone reading your posts here would see you're much more into excuse-making than intelligent debate. You've got excuse after excuse.... after excuse... as to why you aren't happy professionally and how everyone else posting here has it easier than you. As far as you calling someone else obnoxious...that's rich, as it was you who literally called someone who came from a war-torn country (if his story is true, I have no reason to doubt it) who didn't even speak the language, yet worked himself successfully into the American dream, "privileged."

[–] Tatmanlulu_BACK 8 years ago

Sorry, snowflake, if I feel like hopping into any discussion on an internet message board, designed for discussion, I'm going to do so, whether you find it obnoxious or not. YOU got that?

Yep, if you feel like hopping into my discussions on the internet message board, you're going to do so and I just won't acknowledge it when you're breaking my rules of respect. See how that works? So you can feel free to hop in my discussions and talk to me all you want and you won't get acknowledgement to all the arguments you worked so long and hard on.

I know you worked very hard to put that last long posting together, but none of it gets to be acknowledged. See how that works?! See, there are rules to carrying a discussion with me. Rule one is don't be obnoxious. You were warned about the obnoxious antics, you continued to break that rule, now I just don't acknowledge your points you worked so long and hard on to present to me and you just waste all your time. That's what happens when you're obnoxious and instigate.

Yes, you have the right to hop in my discussions and be an instigator. I have the right not to acknowledge anything you've said and let you know you've just wasted your time and your energy. And that's as far as you get with me. So keep on instigating and hopping in all you like and keep on getting that as my reply. You don't have to like my rules or abide by my rules, but you'll just keep wasting your time with long postings with points you work on long and hard that won't be acknowledged. Won't engage in all the back and forth name-calling, snowflake this, snowflake that, the interaction and acknowledgement ends. Period!

If you would like for the interactions to continue, you can revise your posting, remove the disrespect and obnoxious and we can continue. Until then, this is the only response you get.

[–] pvd295 8 years ago

Errr... Pvd, you're a 50+ year old single gay man and you're clapping at her posting that millions of gay people can get relationships, so what magic do they have that I don't.

You were recently chasing a guy less than half your age and it didn't work out and you're sitting here clapping. Saddest part is you still haven't found the one yet and your life is half over. :)

Tat, for the record I'm 53 and if consider 2 years ago 'recently', then my calendar and definition of 'recently' is quite different from yours. Wasn't exactly 'chasing' him, as we made ourselves available for each other, but I realized it wasn't going to go much further because of the age difference.

As far as the 'saddest part', you know nothing of my life/love life since then, as I have not shared it on here with you or anyone else. You have no idea what's going on in my life, yet you make a big assumption 'I still haven't found the one yet' - how do you know?

As far as my life being 'half over' - anyone's life can be half over today. You just never know when your time is up.

"Splodey heads keep splodin' " - Sarah Palin, 7-1-16 

[–] Tatmanlulu_BACK 8 years ago

Tat, for the record I'm 53 and if consider 2 years ago 'recently', then my calendar and definition of 'recently' is quite different from yours. Wasn't exactly 'chasing' him, as we made ourselves available for each other, but I realized it wasn't going to go much further because of the age difference.

As far as the 'saddest part', you know nothing of my life/love life since then, as I have not shared it on here with you or anyone else. You have no idea what's going on in my life, yet you make a big assumption 'I still haven't found the one yet' - how do you know?

As far as my life being 'half over' - anyone's life can be half over today. You just never know when your time is up.

You weren't "exactly" chasing him, huh Pvd? LOL!!! I notice you said you weren't "exactly" chasing him as opposed to I wasn't chasing him. LMFAO!!! All I can say is I have been harassed and hounded by guys your age for relationships like it's going out of style or something. But that's neither here nor there.

And you are correct. I do not know anything about your present life/love life and that's all fair and good. I am simply making the point that you were sitting up here singing Beck's praises when you yourself reached AT LEAST 51 without having found the one yet. Beck Mill made the obnoxious point that he's seen other gay people find their one, so what magic power do they have that I don't in that I haven't found my one yet. You were sitting up there singing his praises when you turned 51 without having yet found your Mr. Right.

I am 23 years your junior, having just turned 30, so what Beck said was actually more insulting towards you than me yet you're cheering him on like his biggest fan. LMFAO!!!

Don't cut off your nose to spite your face.

[–] Beck_Mill_00 8 years ago

Yep, if you feel like hopping into my discussions on the internet message board, you're going to do so and I just won't acknowledge it when you're breaking my rules of respect. See how that works? So you can feel free to hop in my discussions and talk to me all you want and you won't get acknowledgement to all the arguments you worked so long and hard on.

I know you worked very hard to put that last long posting together, but none of it gets to be acknowledged. See how that works?! See, there are rules to carrying a discussion with me. Rule one is don't be obnoxious. You were warned about the obnoxious antics, you continued to break that rule, now I just don't acknowledge your points you worked so long and hard on to present to me and you just waste all your time. That's what happens when you're obnoxious and instigate.

Yes, you have the right to hop in my discussions and be an instigator. I have the right not to acknowledge anything you've said and let you know you've just wasted your time and your energy. And that's as far as you get with me. So keep on instigating and hopping in all you like and keep on getting that as my reply. You don't have to like my rules or abide by my rules, but you'll just keep wasting your time with long postings with points you work on long and hard that won't be acknowledged. Won't engage in all the back and forth name-calling, snowflake this, snowflake that, the interaction and acknowledgement ends. Period!

If you would like for the interactions to continue, you can revise your posting, remove the disrespect and obnoxious and we can continue. Until then, this is the only response you get.

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Good comedy, if absolutely nothing else. That's OK, that verbose "non-acknowledgement" of yours clearly demonstrates your inability to present any counterpoint, whatsoever, to what I said. Don't beat yourself up too badly, cupcake, you just got caught being completely unable to logically substantiate your woe-is-me-life-is-so-unfair self-pity.

Feel free to "not acknowledge" this with another long post saying you "won't acknowledge it."

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[–] Beck_Mill_00 8 years ago

You know, I would spit square in your face and the faces of your wife and children you mentioned if you and they were in front of me right now and then smear it in with the bottom of my feet. There's some more good comedy "non-acknowledgement" for you to enjoy. Smiley face icon at that!

More non-acknowledgement from the person who told someone else NOT to be obnoxious, and hilariously told them to revise their posts... and then proceeds to post the eloquent words of intellectual maturity, above.

By all means, keep the laughs coming! 

[–] Tatmanlulu_BACK 8 years ago

More non-acknowledgement from the person who told someone else NOT to be obnoxious, and hilariously told them to revise their posts... and then proceeds to post the eloquent words of intellectual maturity, above.

By all means, keep the laughs coming!

Hey, I Just checked your BMI at 5'8 and 170 lbs. It says you're overweight. Did you let your children you mentioned know that being a fat cow is in their genes? Poor things. Maybe get off the comp and work out, you overweight cow. I am gay and yet I am not overeating myself into oblivion like your fatass. Some more "non-acknowledgement" for you to smiley icon and laugh at too.

And another thing fatty, don't tell me about words of eloquence or maturity when you're on this website calling people diseased ridden skanks and using the c word, as shown here http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0944947/board/thread/263137284?p=2&d=263139551#263139551 Only thing worse than a fatty who deserves my spit in his face is a hypocrite fatty who deserves my spit in his face. You must have instigated and bugged the hell out of that guy too to the point you had him tearing into you so harshly that whatever he said wasn't IMDB-friendly and it had to get deleted.

[–] Beck_Mill_00 8 years ago

Hey, I Just checked your BMI at 5'8 and 170 lbs. It says you're overweight. Did you let your children you mentioned know that being a fat cow is in their genes? Poor things. Maybe get off the comp and work out, you overweight cow. I am gay and yet I am not overeating myself into oblivion like your fatass. Some more "non-acknowledgement" for you to smiley icon and laugh at too.

Wow, I thought you weren't going to acknowledge me, and what's this, the third time you've done so?  And you're checking my post history on other boards, now, too? I guess that's even MORE non-acknowledgement. Adorable.

BTW, my ideal weight range for my age and height is actually between 125 and 165 lbs, and here you are, princess, calling 5 extra pounds "a fat cow?" 

Bravo, now you're name-calling too, after demanding that others not be obnoxious, huh? I guess that's a lot easier than trying to defend all that whining of yours, and realizing how you're stuck in such a sad life of your own doing. Never mind trying to answer all the questions I asked about the topics YOU bring up, just toss out unrelated insults like these, after claiming, of course, you'll no longer acknowledge my posts...that ought to do it. Maybe it's not just your pathetic self-pity, excuses and hypocrisy that are keeping you from finding a positive and productive life, complete with a real job and a real significant other, your demonstrably bitchy and snarky juvenile attitude clearly have something to do with being such a lonely loser, too. But just keep telling yourself it's all because you're non-white, and gay, that's obviously worked out so well for you, huh?

[–] Tatmanlulu_BACK 8 years ago

your demonstrably bitchy and snarky juvenile attitude clearly have something to do with

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0944947/board/thread/263143707?d=263144889#263144889

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0944947/board/thread/263137284?p=2&d=263139551#263139551

My goodness! You're here starting drama with me, telling people to clip their nose hairs in other threads, describing people as the c word and skanks for disagreeing with you on other threads, insulting people who have had tragic family losses on other threads, complaining how people are childish and juvenile of all things, etc. etc. etc. If you used half the energy that you're using to instigate and bug the hell out of people like that to lose weight, maybe you wouldn't be five pounds overweight. Hey fatty, millions of people are height/weight proportionate and not five pounds overweight. Why aren't you? Stop making excuses that it's only a measly five pounds and get that blubber on the treadmill.

Bravo, now you're name-calling too, after demanding that others not be obnoxious, huh? I guess that's a lot easier than trying to defend all that whining of yours, and realizing how you're stuck in such a sad life of your own doing.

Remember that user you instigated and bugged the hell out of so badly that she snapped on your ass in such a bad way it had to be deleted. GOSH, I hail that user. I wish we could get her information so she can do it again.

I am just sorry you have offspring and you continued your family lineage. Hopefully something happens to them which ends your family line, Chris Christy.

, and here you are, princess,

I am actually glad you used a gay slur. Still cheering him on Pvd?! LMFAO!!!

[–] Beck_Mill_00 8 years ago

My goodness! You here starting drama with me, telling people to clip their nose hairs, insulting people who have had tragic family loses, calling people childish of all things, etc. etc. etc.

Not that logic and context make sense to perpetual self-victimized snowflakes such as yourself, but that poster was deleted by admins because they were a well-known troll. I shouldn't have stooped to their level, but those "family losses" were just a made-up story that the troll wound up deleting even before getting nuked.

If you used half the energy that you're using to instigate and bug the hell out of people like that to lose weight, maybe you wouldn't be five pounds overweight. Hey fatty, millions of people are height/weight proportionate and not five pounds overweight. Why aren't you? Stop making excuses that it's only a measly five pounds and get that blubber on the treadmill.

You're right, I could lose those massive five pounds in a week or so, you, on the other hand will still be a whining and lonely unemployed loser.  If you used just a mere fraction of the time looking for REAL work and someone who can tolerate you and your non-stop crying about how hard you have it and how easy everyone else has it, instead of saying over and over again how you "won't acknowledge" people who dare question your tragic autobiography, yet keep acknowledging them with unrelated insults... maybe you wouldn't be moaning about being alone with "no one to rely on" while not even being able to hold on to the crappiest of entry level part time jobs for more than a year.

Looks like you won't even attempt to answer why you can't move to an area where more gay people live, and why other gay people have found successful relationships and you can't, or any of your other belly-aching about why you have no life, you just want to toss out insults instead...all, of course, after this gem of yours:

Yep, if you feel like hopping into my discussions on the internet message board, you're going to do so and I just won't acknowledge it when you're breaking my rules of respect. See how that works? So you can feel free to hop in my discussions and talk to me all you want and you won't get acknowledgement to all the arguments you worked so long and hard on.

I know you worked very hard to put that last long posting together, but none of it gets to be acknowledged. See how that works?! See, there are rules to carrying a discussion with me. Rule one is don't be obnoxious. You were warned about the obnoxious antics, you continued to break that rule, now I just don't acknowledge your points you worked so long and hard on to present to me and you just waste all your time. That's what happens when you're obnoxious and instigate.

Yes, you have the right to hop in my discussions and be an instigator. I have the right not to acknowledge anything you've said and let you know you've just wasted your time and your energy. And that's as far as you get with me. So keep on instigating and hopping in all you like and keep on getting that as my reply. You don't have to like my rules or abide by my rules, but you'll just keep wasting your time with long postings with points you work on long and hard that won't be acknowledged.

So that's what, 6 "you won't be acknowledged"s in just that one post of yours? A little insecure, there, to the point you have to repeat it 6 times in just one entry?

And after having said 6 times you won't acknowledge me in just that one post, you just keep acknowledging and acknowledging...and acknowledging. This is too funny! 

Won't engage in all the back and forth name-calling, snowflake this, snowflake that, the interaction and acknowledgement ends. Period!

Right, calling someone just five pounds over their ideal weight "fatty" over and over again certainly isn't the name calling you claimed you weren't going to do. 

Oh, and that's the 7th "no acknowledgement" promise from just that one post. Is your short term memory so bad you can't remember what you typed in the last 15 seconds, and that's why you keep repeating yourself? And why you keep "not acknowledging" over and over? 

If you would like for the interactions to continue, you can revise your posting, remove the disrespect and obnoxious and we can continue. Until then, this is the only response you get.

Except for the other five times you've responded, right? 

Remember that user you instigated and bugged the hell out of so badly that she snapped on your ass in such a bad way it had to be deleted. GOSH, I hail that user. I wish we could get her information so she can do it again.

Asking people to support their points, or starting a new thread isn't "instigating." If you don't want people challenging your thoughts, don't post them. This isn't a tricky concept. If people snap so badly that they get nuked, that's actually pretty idiotic, because then they can't respond without creating another account and they lose all their posting history. As far as hailing users, I think it's pretty admirable how this "Syn84" user has obliterated you multiple times in this topic alone. 

I am just sorry you have offspring and you continued your family lineage. Hopefully something happens to them which ends your family line, Chris Christy.

Keep that junior high bile coming, it just further exposes why you can't move forward in life.

I am actually glad you used a gay slur. Still cheering him on Pvd?! LMFAO!!!

As much as we all know you're a professional victim, I didn't use "princess" as a gay slur, I call anyone, male or female, gay or straight, who acts in such a way, a "princess," and I use it for someone pampered, weak and self-centered, all of which you've clearly demonstrated you are, as well as being an unemployable waste of space who can't even find a significant other.

[–] pvd295 8 years ago

And you are correct. I do not know anything about your present life/love life and that's all fair and good. I am simply making the point that you were sitting up here singing Beck's praises when you yourself reached AT LEAST 51 without having found the one yet. Beck Mill made the obnoxious point that he's seen other gay people find their one, so what magic power do they have that I don't in that I haven't found my one yet. You were sitting up there singing his praises when you turned 51 without having yet found your Mr. Right.

Yet you have no idea about my life prior to turning 51. You don't know if I had found 'the one' earlier, you don't know if I'm looking for 'the one' now, you have no idea - just assumptions based on your life.

I am 23 years your junior, having just turned 30, so what Beck said was actually more insulting towards you than me yet you're cheering him on like his biggest fan. LMFAO!!!

Insulting to whom? I wasn't insulted in the least. Again, you know nothing about me to make such irrational assumptions.

"Splodey heads keep splodin' " - Sarah Palin, 7-1-16 

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[–] pvd295 8 years ago

Also, I consider the one that special someone you will spend the rest of your life with and who you go to your grave with, not meaningless flings and unsuccessful romances that end throughout your life. You didn't find the one if at 51 you were still hunting around and it failed with some young 20s something.

OK, Tat I shall share something with you...

I found my "special someone" when I was 29 years old, and he was five years younger than I. WE had a wonderful relationship - even when he was relocated 300 miles away for a job opportunity. I would go to Manhattan just about every weekend and enjoy every minute of it. I knew from the get-go there would be no one like him ever again (he felt the same), and we did everything to keep the relationship thriving through good times and bad, which it did. It was a wonderful 10 years together (1993-2003).

Yes, 10 years together because about a week after our 10 year anniversary, I got a phone call from his mother - he was killed in a horrible subway accident in Manhattan. I will never forget that day, never forget that phone call. That was the true love of my life, and he died at 34. (Which is why I told you earlier, you never know when your time is up - half his life was gone at 17).

So whether or not I find someone else for the rest of my life won't really matter - because I had the love of my life, that someone special - and we had 10 loving years. I know what it is to be loved, and be in love...which seems to be a lot more than what you can say.

As for the flings with 20-something year olds, why not? Like Mike said - many go after us older guys, and it clicks on different levels. Not exactly relationship material, but fun none-the-less. Again, more than you are saying at 30 years old.

You want to continue with this conversation?

"Splodey heads keep splodin' " - Sarah Palin, 7-1-16 

[–] Tatmanlulu_BACK 8 years ago

OK, Tat I shall share something with you...

I found my "special someone" when I was 29 years old, and he was five years younger than I. WE had a wonderful relationship - even when he was relocated 300 miles away for a job opportunity. I would go to Manhattan just about every weekend and enjoy every minute of it. I knew from the get-go there would be no one like him ever again (he felt the same), and we did everything to keep the relationship thriving through good times and bad, which it did. It was a wonderful 10 years together (1993-2003).

Yes, 10 years together because about a week after our 10 year anniversary, I got a phone call from his mother - he was killed in a horrible subway accident in Manhattan. I will never forget that day, never forget that phone call. That was the true love of my life, and he died at 34. (Which is why I told you earlier, you never know when your time is up - half his life was gone at 17).

So whether or not I find someone else for the rest of my life won't really matter - because I had the love of my life, that someone special - and we had 10 loving years. I know what it is to be loved, and be in love...which seems to be a lot more than what you can say.

As for the flings with 20-something year olds, why not? Like Mike said - many go after us older guys, and it clicks on different levels. Not exactly relationship material, but fun none-the-less. Again, more than you are saying at 30 years old.

You want to continue with this conversation?

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OMG! I DID NOT know all that, baby! My heart just seriously sunk to the bottom of my chest reading this. I apologize. What a devastating tragedy to go through and to someone so close to your heart. You must have been absolutely destroyed. To have met the love of your life and for him to be taken away from you in such a horrific manner. How crushing. Again baby, I am sorry for your heartbreak and apologize for my words revolving around you and relationships in this thread. Considering the circumstances, it behooves me to apologize to you.

All I can say is what a strong, powerful and noble soul you are to overcome such adversity and carry on with the good cheer, spirited humor and outspoken conviction you have. Myself and everyone laugh on these boards until they cry at your rich parody scripts and outspoken witticisms. You care about the well-being of others as shown in how you protest human rights on the View IMDB boards.

Simply put, you are a powerhouse! And you're going to find another love of your life if you already haven't, baby. Thanks for sharing this deep account with me. It gives me so much insight to you and what you've gone through.

[–] MiketheMechanic 8 years ago

All I can say is I have been harassed and hounded by guys your age for relationships like it's going out of style or something.

At age 54 I can say the same thing!

Not sure what it is about younger guys wanting to have relationships with older men. Is it for security? Daddy issues?

Who knows.

All I know is that, for me it's about having certain things in common, which can lead to building relations and relationships. It's about having conversations together without age being a factor.

[–] Tatmanlulu_BACK 8 years ago

At age 54 I can say the same thing!

Not sure what it is about younger guys wanting to have relationships with older men. Is it for security? Daddy issues?

Who knows.

All I know is that, for me it's about having certain things in common, which can lead to building relations and relationships. It's about having conversations together without age being a factor.

LMFAO!!! Yea, I'd be lying if I didn't acknowledge this. I come past those posts quite frequently on Craigslist of a young guy searching for older. But I always figured they were gold diggers, looking for money and someone to take care of them while they sit at home doing nothing. I guess I don't even know if that's true because I haven't met people in those relationships. I don't know the success rate of them or the dynamics so perhaps I am being presumptuous in stating it's golddigging relationship. I do know one couple at La Cage, which is the popular gay bar in my city. There is a younger guy and an older guy who looks to be in his 50s. The older guy is actually really hot though. He looks like a tough Walker Texas Ranger type guy. Haha! But yea! You do make a valid point that I can attest to.

[–] Tatmanlulu_BACK 8 years ago

Not that logic and context make sense to perpetual self-victimized snowflakes such as yourself, but that poster was deleted by admins because they were a well-known troll. I shouldn't have stooped to their level, but......

BUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUT I am getting ready to make a tired excuse anyway for my juvenile postings instead of leaving it at that. And my excuse for my juvenile posting of telling people to cut their nose hairs is he was trolling me. I know I have spent an entire thread squawking about how wrong it is to be making excuses and engaging in childishness but I don't care. NOW YOU STOP THAT CHILDISHNESS, TATMAN, AND NO EXCUSES DAMMIT.

You're right, I could lose those massive five pounds in a week or so, you, on the other hand......

ON THE OTHER HAND are very much height/weight proportionate at 5'9 and 155 unlike me and you have never seen a day in your life in which you were overweight unlike my fat ass. I am the heterosexual straight white man and you are that juvenile gay so there, but yet I am the one overeating father who tells people to pluck their nose hairs.

If you used just a mere fraction of the time looking for REAL work and someone who can tolerate you and your non-stop crying about how hard you have it and how easy everyone else has it, instead of saying over and over again how you "won't acknowledge" people who dare question your tragic autobiography, yet keep acknowledging them with unrelated insults maybe you wouldn't be.......

WOULDN'T BE uhhhhh what was my point again? I forgot in the course of this grotesque run-on sentence that keeps going and going. Could someone help me out please? I felt I was making a great diss here but I have completely lost track of what it was all originally about. The point was lost because I don't know how to break up my thoughts into coherent, separate sentences. DAMMIT!!!

And that was going to be a great burn too but because I didn't use a period the sentence just continued and then I came up with another thought in my head which I felt would also get him but that got in the way of my disses about acknowledgements just because he has to acknowledge me when he shouldn't where there's no point in doing so because he told me it wasn't going to happen and I got really upset SO YEEEEEEA!!!

And after having said 6 times you won't acknowledge me in just that one post.......

I went on to make 6 sentences all combined into one biiiiiiiiiiiiig sentence. And darn in tatman, I know you never acknowledged the arguments I made in my original post directly and you're only trashing me but to me that is acknowledgement so I just don't understand why you ever said you wouldn't acknowledge me because in a way it's acknowledging me so that I may laugh and in that way mocking you because what you say just isn't true and so you look like the bad guy and I have no way of... wait what was I talking about again!!!

As much as we all know you're a professional victim, I didn't use "princess" as a gay slur, I call anyone, male or female, gay or straight, who acts in such a way, a "princess," and I use........

USEEE bs to cover up the fact that I use words like "princess" and "cupcake" as gay slurs. So you can't be mad at me Pvd. That's what I use bs for. It's my cover up.

Asking people to support their points, or starting a new thread isn't........

ISN'T what I did in anyway shape or form. Instead I came here looking for a fight by asking obnoxious questions about what magic powers you have. Now I'm upset because I got the fight I came looking for. PHOOEY!!!! I wasn't expecting such bile and for you to call me on my blubber. I wasn't expecting for you to expose my juvenile posts telling people to pluck their nose hairs in response to my squawking about childishness. I wasn't expecting for it to be pointed out the agonizing thought that my children might look like and act like me so that it be nice if something happened to them, halting my lineage.

Keep that junior high bile coming, it just further exposes why.......

WHY you need to pluck your nose hairs.

[–] Beck_Mill_00 8 years ago

BUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUT I am getting ready to make a tired excuse anyway for my juvenile postings instead of leaving it at that. And my excuse for my juvenile posting of telling people to cut their nose hairs is he was trolling me. I know I have spent an entire thread squawking about how wrong it is to be making excuses and engaging in childishness but I don't care. NOW YOU STOP THAT CHILDISHNESS, TATMAN, AND NO EXCUSES DAMMIT.

I mean it, I won't acknowledge you, Beck_Mill! Oh, wait.....

HAAAAAAAAAND you are very much height/weight proportionate at 5'9 and 155 unlike me and you have never seen a day in your life in which you were overweight unlike my fat ass. I am the heterosexual straight white man and you are that juvenile gay so there, but yet I am the one overeating and telling people to pluck their nose hairs.

Yeah, that 5 pounds over your ideal weight makes you a fatty fatass fat Chris Christie fat pig! And I mean it, I'm not going to get into name-calling! You'll get no response from me! 'Cause... 'Cause.... *sniff* I'm height and weight proportionate...but...but... can't find a job 'cause... 'cause... *sniff* heterosexual males have everything given to them in life... and 'cause *sniff* oh wait, I stopped talking about MY actual points 8 or 9 tantrums ago...

WOULDN'T BEEEEE uhhhhh what was my point again? I forgot in the course of this grotesque run-on sentence that keeps going and going. Could someone help me out please? I felt I was making a great diss here but I have completely lost track of what it was all originally about. The point was lost because I don't know how to break up my thoughts into coherent, separate sentences. DAMMIT!!! And that was going to be a great burn too but because I didn't use a period the sentence just continued and then I came up with another thought in my head which I felt would also get him but that got in the way of my disses about acknowledgements just because he has to acknowledge me when he shouldn't where there's no point in doing so because he told me it wasn't going to happen and I got really upset SO YEEEEEEA!!!

I'm not going to EVER tell you WHY everyone else can find a spouse or significant other and I can't, nor why I can't find work, it's because I can't understand sentences with too many words!!! Waaaaaah!

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I went on to make 6 sentences all combined into one biiiiiiiiiiiiig sentence. And darn in tatman, I know you never acknowledged the arguments I made in my original post directly and you're only trashing me but to me that is acknowledgement so I just don't understand why you ever said you wouldn't acknowledge me because in a way it's acknowledging me so that I may laugh and in that way mocking you because what you say just isn't true and so you look like the bad guy and I have no way of... wait what was I talking about again!!!

I won't acknowledge you because, you're obnoxious. And you better revise your obnoxiousness, or I won't respond, except for the last six times. You hear me? I WON'T acknowledge you! Those are the rules, I won't acknowledge you! And one more thing!!!! I WON'T acknowledge you!!! *sniff* *sniff*

USEEE bs to cover up the fact that I use words like "princess" and "cupcake" as gay slurs. So you can't be mad at me Pvd. That's what I use bs for. It's my cover up.

I've checked your posting history, 'cause, 'cause, *sniff* *sniff* I'm not going to acknowledge you! I mean it Beck-Mill, I WON'T acknowledge you!!! Oh wait, you've called other non-gay people "princess" in your posting history http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1442462/board/thread/256029649?d=256648461#256648461...um, er, oh damn it, now I can't keep playing the victim on this one *sniff*....I have nothing on topic to say....but...but...you're FAT!!!!!!

ISN'T what I did in anyway shape or form. Instead I came here looking for a fight by asking obnoxious questions about what magic powers you have. Now I'm upset because I got the fight I came looking for. PHOOEY!!!! I wasn't expecting such bile and for you to call me on my blubber. I wasn't expecting for you to expose my juvenile posts telling people to pluck their nose hairs in response to my squawking about childishness. I wasn't expecting for it to be pointed out the agonizing thought that my children might look like and act like me so that it be nice if something happened to them, halting my lineage.

Waaaaah! I haven't been able to defend my non-stop crying and telling everyone else why they have it easy in life and I don't *sniff* and...and....*sniff*....it's because I'm non-white and gay... and ... and that's my answer for EVERYTHYING...so I'm just going to NOT ACKNOWLEDGE you about seven or eight times...*sniff* just...just...*sniff* take my point, and don't you dare question anything I say and...and...*sniff* don't be obnoxious!!!! 'cause I'm no longer going acknowledge anything you say ...and *sniff* *wheeze* *sniff* and won't get into the back and forth and name-calling with you..you.. you... you fat pig!!!

WHY you need to pluck your nose hairs.

I'M MELTING!!! Why was one of my tantrums DELETED!!! *sniff* How many times do I have to tell you, I WON'T ACKNOWLEDGE YOU!!!! Because I won't, fatty, I mean it!...YOU GOT THAT?!

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[–] Tatmanlulu_BACK 8 years ago

Yeah, that 5 pounds over your ideal weight makes you a fatty fatass fat Chris Christie fat pig! And I mean it, I'm not going to get into name-calling! You'll get no response from me! 'Cause... 'Cause.... *sniff* I'm height and weight proportionate...but...but... can't find a job 'cause... 'cause... *sniff* heterosexual males have everything given to them in life... and 'cause *sniff* oh wait, I stopped talking about MY actual points 8 or 9 tantrums ago...

I'm not going to EVER tell you WHY everyone else can find a spouse or significant other and I can't, nor why I can't find work, it's because I can't understand sentences with too many words!!! Waaaaaah!

I've checked your posting history, 'cause, 'cause, *sniff* *sniff* I'm not going to acknowledge you! I mean it Beck-Mill, I WON'T acknowledge you!!! Oh wait, you've called other non-gay people "princess" in your posting history http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1442462/board/thread/256029649?d=256648461#256648461...um, er, oh damn it, now I can't keep playing the victim on this one *sniff*....I have nothing on topic to say....but...but...you're FAT!!!!!!

Dude, I just laid waste to you and in response you're going to give me the sincerest form of flattery in the form of copying me. WOW! Um.... thanks!

Piece of advice everybody: If you're trying to stick it to your adversary, you NEVER EVER... EVER under any circumstances copy their entire line of attack as Beck Mill has just done. You especially don't do that for an entire posting. It just shows why your opponent is boss and why you're not. Copycatting is a big no-no for trying to stick it to your opponent. Rather conversely, it's flattery in its sincerest form. Once you flatter your opponent, the altercation is done and you're defeated. Anything you try to come back with next is a wash. You have already acknowledged them as boss and you are defeated.

That's how you flatten an instigator 101, everybody. I've left carnage behind me and splatters of fat in my path here today and got flattered in return. Let's see if any of you other mofos on IMDB can pull that off.

In conclusion, the life of the average gay black male is ten times harder than the life of the average heterosexual white male.

The proper response from the adversary who has been flattered, in this case me, to the defeated opponent, in this case Beck Mill, is to follow up by thanking her for flattering me and moving on to other topics of discussion with her now, highlighting her defeat and the end of the massacre:

Hey Beck Mill, I am so happy because The Real Housewives of Atlanta is coming on tonight? Will you be watching? It's going to be really good I hear. It's one of my favorite shows.

[–] Beck_Mill_00 8 years ago

Dude, I just laid waste to you and in response you're going to give me the sincerest form of flattery in the form of copying me. WOW! Um.... thanks!

Piece of advice everybody: If you're trying to stick it to your adversary, you NEVER EVER... EVER under any circumstances copy their entire line of attack as Beck Mill has just done. You especially don't do that for an entire posting. It just shows why your opponent is boss and why you're not. Copycatting is a big no-no for trying to stick it to your opponent. Rather conversely, it's flattery in its sincerest form. Once you flatter your opponent, the altercation is done and you're defeated. Anything you try to come back with next is a wash. You have already acknowledged them as boss and you are defeated.

That's how you flatten an instigator 101, everybody. I've left carnage behind me and splatters of fat in my path here today and got flattered in return. Let's see if any of you other mofos on IMDB can pull that off.

In conclusion, the life of the average gay black male is ten times harder than the life of the average heterosexual white male.

The proper response from the adversary who has been flattered, in this case me, to the defeated opponent, in this case Beck Mill, is to follow up by thanking her for flattering me and moving on to other topics of discussion with her now, highlighting her defeat and the end of the massacre:

Hey Beck Mill, I am so happy because The Real Housewives of Atlanta is coming on tonight? Will you be watching? It's going to be really good I hear. It's one of my favorite shows.

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Priceless! You giving advice on how to have conversations and debate on an internet message board is like Helen Keller teaching driver's ed. After being obliterated time and time again, first by Syn84, and now, clearly, by me, you're actually patting yourself on the back for the embarrassing elementary school drivel you've posted. The comedy just doesn't get any better!   

You know you've won the debate when the other person frantically flies off into a completely unrelated tangent. And that's exactly what you did when you started with the whole "I just looked up your BMI" post and the ridiculous non-stop fat-name-calling that followed. You couldn't answer a single one of my questions about your own points and I had already embarrassed you on your hilarious and insecurely repetitive "I won't acknowledge you" promise, so you didn't even try to stay on your own topic. Anyone reading this thread can clearly see right through that hilarious attempt at obfuscation. I already won the debate about seven or eight posts ago, you just obviously wouldn't know intelligent conversation and simple debate if you tripped on it.

Another way you know you've won the debate is when your opponent not only stops addressing their own topic at hand, but froths at the mouth like a rabid dog, to the point their melt-down gets deleted, which also happened many posts ago. At least your sad little crying and venom from your deleted tirade were preserved in my quote, for all to see. 

That's OK, you gave it your best shot, you just didn't stand a chance when you couldn't substantiate your life-long victimhood, and decided to go into non-stop name-calling mode instead.

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[–] Tatmanlulu_BACK 8 years ago

Priceless! You giving advice on how to have conversations and debate on an internet message board is like Helen Keller teaching driver's ed. After being obliterated time and time again, first by Syn84, and now, clearly, by me, you're actually patting yourself on the back for the embarrassing elementary school drivel you've posted. The comedy just doesn't get any better!

You know you've won the debate when the other person frantically flies off into a completely unrelated tangent. And that's exactly what you did when you started with the whole "I just looked up your BMI" post and the ridiculous non-stop fat-name-calling that followed. You couldn't answer a single one of my questions about your own points and I had already embarrassed you on your hilarious and insecurely repetitive "I won't acknowledge you" promise, so you didn't even try to stay on your own topic. Anyone reading this thread can clearly see right through that hilarious attempt at obfuscation. I already won the debate about seven or eight posts ago, you just obviously wouldn't know intelligent conversation and simple debate if you tripped on it.

Another way you know you've won the debate is when your opponent not only stops addressing their own topic at hand, but froths at the mouth like a rabid dog, to the point their melt-down gets deleted, which also happened many posts ago. At least your sad little crying and venom from your deleted tirade were preserved in my quote, for all to see.

That's OK, you gave it your best shot, you just didn't stand a chance when you couldn't substantiate your life-long victimhood, and decided to go into non-stop name-calling mode instead.

Yea, I know Real Housewives of Atlanta is going to rule tonight. I am not so sure who I am rooting for as between Kenya and Sheree though. Do you have a dog in the fight as between Kenya and Sheree or do you like them both? Just wondering. I was sympathetic with Kandi and her outrage with Block, but then I found something online where it's revealed that Kandi was a mistress of Block's, never really his girlfriend.

Also, I don't know if you have been keeping up to date on American Dad lately, but Klause has become way more vocal in recent episodes. I have loved these new TBS episodes. A big complaint about the show before was how people felt Klaus was sort of reduced to a minor role, but I am glad they gave him a bigger part in the show this season. He will never compare to Roger though.

And of course there's Judge Judy, another huge favorite of mine. I love Judge Judy but I have never liked her theme song since the 6th season. How do you feel about the present Judge Judy song? I feel like they need to change it. The Beethoven thing is played out.

[–] Beck_Mill_00 8 years ago

Look! You're the one who cheers on a conservative overweight Trump supporter in Becky the Hippo whose idea of a diss is telling people to pluck their nose hairs and accusing them of childishness and calling gay people "cupcakes" and "princess." That's what Becky "The Trump Supporter" Mill is if you look up some of his posting history.

Also, I consider the one that special someone you will spend the rest of your life with and who you go to your grave with, not meaningless flings and unsuccessful romances that end throughout your life. You didn't find the one if at 51 you were still hunting around and it failed with some young 20s something.

I don't know if you are looking for the one or not. All I am saying is you were looking for the one at least through 51 and Becky the hippo and Trump Suppoorter insulted that about you. I didn't insult that about you. He indirectly talked about you like a dog and you cheered him on. He looked at me, a 30 year old man, and questioned why I am not with my soul mate yet as there are millions of other gays with their soul mate. You are 51 but you were cheering on Becky the hippo and Trump supporter.

Look at him go!!! 

Now why on earth is poor little precious unemployed and all alone? How can that possibly be? Oh, that's right, it must be because he's gay and non-white. 

[–] Tatmanlulu_BACK 8 years ago

Becky, you and I are done exchanging blows. You were defeated already. See here for more: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0115227/board/thread/263534997?p=4&d=264062445#264062445 and here http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0115227/board/thread/263534997?p=4&d=264066669#264066669 for more. Now, how was the Real Housewives of Atlanta last night? Did you catch it and what did you have for lunch today?

By the way Beck, could you give me some advice on which of the guys I should choose now that we're getting along and no longer debating since you were defeated?

I am in limbo deciding between three guys at the moment. One of them is kind of a wash because he had an ex-boyfriend he was with when he met that he failed to tell me about. But he has since said that he thought I would turn him down had I known about the ex-boyfriend. Plus, he says this ex-boyfriend has his social security card, bank account info, and a lot of precious information on him and can blackmail him into anything. He also has seizures but says he hasn't had them in years. He is on disability too. And he is dishonest with me about this stuff and a lot of stuff that he decides to tell me at the enth hour. He wants a life with me, but I don't know if I am prepared to handle all that. He is a 29 year old, extremely sexy. He is white. When he and I spent time together for a few days he was here, I was on top of the world and the communication was great.

The other guy is really hot. But he is 36 and I have an 18 to 33 age limit. But I sometimes wonder if that's silly to have an age limit when a guy is really sweet, romantic, and meets all my criteria in every other way. Plus, he looks 24. He lives in Iowa and wants to relocate to me here in Wisconsin. Am I being anal if I am holding a 6 year age difference against him? Also, he says he has cold sores. I looked it up and cold sores are contagious, and I do not want cold sores. I've led a healthy life and don't want any kind of diseases. He says he thinks that's petty for me to end things over cold sores, that a lot of people have them. My dad said he thought it was petty too. He says barely has them but for every two years. But I don't know if I want to catch anything. He is white.

The final guy is mixed, my same skin color of a light bronze hue. He is the one I am leaning most toward. He is 24. He recently moved here to the area from Wisconsin. He lives about an hour away. He says he cannot stand it here in Wisconsin and would like to move back to California in at least two years. He believes with my experience, college degree that I would find work easily in California. He is super cute as well.

[–] Beck_Mill_00 8 years ago

Tutu, or whatever your name is, you lost the debate way back here, with your inability to answer this simple question: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0115227/board/thread/263534997?p=3&d=264028040#264028040

Your subsequent tantrums and "I won't acknowledge you" repeated 7 times in just one post solidified this fact. In fact, one of your adorable furious meltdowns was so severe, an admin deleted it. 

By the way Beck, could you give me some advice on which of the guys I should choose...

I'd suggest you take any poor soul who'd be willing to put up with your non-stop whining and excuse-making. That number could be very limited, especially since you won't be working and contributing anything financially to the relationship. Who knows, maybe you'll find an aging sugar-daddy who can't do any better and is OK with your never-ending victimhood?

Either way, good luck, since according to you, you'll need it because the deck is so woefully stacked against you.

[–] Tatmanlulu_BACK 8 years ago

Nope, nope, nope Becky with the good hair. Those were all blows so they don't count as part of the convo. Again, you were defeated already so we're not delivering blows anymore. We're only here to get along and respect one another. See here for more: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0115227/board/thread/263534997?p=4&d=264062445#264062445 and here http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0115227/board/thread/263534997?p=4&d=264066669#264066669. Let's try this again, my friend: how was the Real Housewives of Atlanta last night? Did you catch it and what did you have for lunch today?

Let's try this again. No blows. Remember, we're done with the blows as you were defeated, so we move on. Here it is again:
By the way Beck, could you give me some advice on which of the guys I should choose now that we're getting along and no longer debating since you were defeated?

I am in limbo deciding between three guys at the moment. One of them is kind of a wash because he had an ex-boyfriend he was with when he met that he failed to tell me about. But he has since said that he thought I would turn him down had I known about the ex-boyfriend. Plus, he says this ex-boyfriend has his social security card, bank account info, and a lot of precious information on him and can blackmail him into anything. He also has seizures but says he hasn't had them in years. He is on disability too. And he is dishonest with me about this stuff and a lot of stuff that he decides to tell me at the enth hour. He wants a life with me, but I don't know if I am prepared to handle all that. He is a 29 year old, extremely sexy. He is white. When he and I spent time together for a few days he was here, I was on top of the world and the communication was great.

The other guy is really hot. But he is 36 and I have an 18 to 33 age limit. But I sometimes wonder if that's silly to have an age limit when a guy is really sweet, romantic, and meets all my criteria in every other way. Plus, he looks 24. He lives in Iowa and wants to relocate to me here in Wisconsin. Am I being anal if I am holding a 6 year age difference against him? Also, he says he has cold sores. I looked it up and cold sores are contagious, and I do not want cold sores. I've led a healthy life and don't want any kind of diseases. He says he thinks that's petty for me to end things over cold sores, that a lot of people have them. My dad said he thought it was petty too. He says barely has them but for every two years. But I don't know if I want to catch anything. He is white.

The final guy is mixed, my same skin color of a light bronze hue. He is the one I am leaning most toward. He is 24. He recently moved here to the area from Wisconsin. He lives about an hour away. He says he cannot stand it here in Wisconsin and would like to move back to California in at least two years. He believes with my experience, college degree that I would find work easily in California. He is super cute as well.

[–] Beck_Mill_00 8 years ago

Nope, you failed miserably by not answering: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0115227/board/thread/263534997?p=3&d=264005068#264005068 nor http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0115227/board/thread/263534997?p=3&d=264028040#264028040, and the final nail in your embarrassment was: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0115227/board/thread/263534997?p=4&d=264063926#264063926

It's OK, you tried your best, snowflake, here's your participation trophy.

After whining about how impossible it is for you to find the right one and now saying you have all of these options, I...seriously don't care. Choose whichever one will be happy paying to support both of you.

[–] Tatmanlulu_BACK 8 years ago

Nope, you failed miserably by not answering: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0115227/board/thread/263534997?p=3&d=264005068#264005068 nor http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0115227/board/thread/263534997?p=3&d=264028040#264028040, and the final nail in your embarrassment was: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0115227/board/thread/263534997?p=4&d=264063926#264063926

It's OK, you tried your best, snowflake, here's your participation trophy.

After whining about how impossible it is for you to find the right one and now saying you have all of these options, I...seriously don't care. Choose whichever one will be happy paying to support both of you.

Yet another response that just doesn't count as the altercation is long over and you've long been defeated. Let me know when you're ready to give responses that count as they aren't toward a lost altercation and we will continue with a discussion. Talk to you when you're ready!

[–] Beck_Mill_00 8 years ago

Yet another response that just doesn't count as the altercation is long over and you've long been defeated. Let me know when you're ready to give responses that count as they aren't toward a lost altercation and we will continue with a discussion. Talk to you when you're ready!

Let me know when you can ever answer those simple questions that you never could, causing your continued (continuing) embarrassment, we'll go from there.

Focus, you can do it. 

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[–] Beck_Mill_00 8 years ago

But precious, according to you, you can't find work and a boyfriend to "rely on" because you're a "double-minority," how did all these options suddenly appear for you?

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[–] Tatmanlulu_BACK 8 years ago

But precious, according to you, you can't find work and a boyfriend to "rely on" because you're a "double-minority," how did all these options suddenly appear for you?

All my options were long distance. Unlike a lot of straight white males, I couldn't just hit my local bar or talk to the person at my college. The one 36 year old white guy lives in Missouri, plus 36 is a bit out of my age range as I am 30. The other white guy lives in Dixon Illinois. The mixed guy I am on a date with right now as we speak (he's in the shower hehe ) I lucked out on because he actually just relocated here a few weeks ago from California. As a double minority in my state, I have always had to do long distance. Plus, the 36 year old white guy had cold sores and the other white guy had seizures and had to go to a mental ward for taking pills when I told him I was moving because of his having an ex he never told me about, long story. So the white guys still weren't great options. This mixed Middle Eastern guy I got by chance as he just moved to my state, only an hour away. :)

[–] Tatmanlulu_BACK 8 years ago

Priceless! You giving advice on how to have conversations and debate on an internet message board is like Helen Keller teaching driver's ed. After being obliterated time and time again, first by Syn84, and now, clearly, by me, you're actually patting yourself on the back for the embarrassing elementary school drivel you've posted. The comedy just doesn't get any better!

You know you've won the debate when the other person frantically flies off into a completely unrelated tangent. And that's exactly what you did when you started with the whole "I just looked up your BMI" post and the ridiculous non-stop fat-name-calling that followed. You couldn't answer a single one of my questions about your own points and I had already embarrassed you on your hilarious and insecurely repetitive "I won't acknowledge you" promise, so you didn't even try to stay on your own topic. Anyone reading this thread can clearly see right through that hilarious attempt at obfuscation. I already won the debate about seven or eight posts ago, you just obviously wouldn't know intelligent conversation and simple debate if you tripped on it.

Another way you know you've won the debate is when your opponent not only stops addressing their own topic at hand, but froths at the mouth like a rabid dog, to the point their melt-down gets deleted, which also happened many posts ago. At least your sad little crying and venom from your deleted tirade were preserved in my quote, for all to see.

That's OK, you gave it your best shot, you just didn't stand a chance when you couldn't substantiate your life-long victimhood, and decided to go into non-stop name-calling mode instead.

Your children will see an early grave if dad doesn't get off the Internet and GET BACK TO WORK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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[–] Tatmanlulu_BACK 8 years ago

True story here- when I was a kid and my dad was unemployed or laid off, you know what he did? He collected cans! He walked the side of the road and would come back with 2 or 3 trashcans full of cans, which we would smash with our feet and condense into one bag. So I always got a kick when JJ used to tell people who didn't have a job to collect cans. She doesn't say it anymore because she knows today's generation wouldn't bother to do that.

Hahahahahaha! I am in hysterics over the fact that collecting cans was actual a real thing. Who would have ever thought? But yea, as PVD said, there's no way that is a realistic form of income in today's society. I don't know about 50 years ago when 5 bucks an hour was considered big bucks. lol!

I also have to steal a quote from Judge Judy herself and tell you that I didn't go through 5 years of college education earning my Bachelor of Science and Associate of Arts Degree so that I could collect cans. Lol! My parents didn't spend thousands upon thousands of dollars of their hard earned money on my education so that I could be out in freezing cold Wisconsin temperatures collecting cans that couldn't even afford a hole in the wall. LOL!!! Dinky jobs like that, if they are still even around as according to PVD they aren't, would leave you reliant on somebody else.

As far as JJ screaming "don't like it? Move," I see where Tatmanlulu is coming from, but I see the other POV, too. When a tenant doesn't pay their rent, that can cause the landlord to suffer serious financial hardship, especially if the tenant is not paying rent in order to save up for a new place, but claims they're withholding rent because of some questionable problem. Ultimately, I agree with JJ- if you live in a place and the landlord won't pay for an exterminator, the answer is not to stay and not pay rent, the answer is to move. My favorite excuse is when a tenant will claim "the apartment wasn't legal in the first place." That doesn't mean you can refuse to pay rent, it means you can... "MOVE!"

All I know is that if I spent all the money it cost to move, endured all the physical stress and hassle of a move, spent all the time it takes to move, went through all the research that goes into moving, etc., and then a few days into my stay at my new home found out that the establishment enjoys a rat infestation, the power goes out for several hours at a time, the landlord has loud parties in which my things get stole, the water stops working for days on end, etc. I would expect the landlord to either fix these problems pronto, make accommodations so that I have other options and don't have to deal with this or take money off my rent. Oftentimes, she sides with the landlord, but the landlord isn't coming into court with clean hands if there are serious problems with a living quarters that a tenant was not made aware of before they went through all the hell of moving into. A lot of these litigants who stopped paying weren't offered any other option other than deal with the problems and continue to pay your full rent or get out.

[–] MiketheMechanic 8 years ago

Another one I cringe at is when she talks about "today's youth" talking and texting on their cell phones right during job interviews and dressed like they are going to the beach. Errr... yea, that's not what's going on in the middle, working and lower classes at least by and large, Judy.

Gotta disagree with you on this one. Not only are there young men and women talking and/or texting during job interviews but also during classes, at meetings, events etc. I've seen it many, many times.

And some of the clothing worn to an interview, omg! I once read where a recent college graduate wore her high school prom dress to an interview because it was formal and she thought wearing something formal to an interview would be appropriate!

[–] Tatmanlulu_BACK 8 years ago

Gotta disagree with you on this one. Not only are there young men and women talking and/or texting during job interviews but also during classes, at meetings, events etc. I've seen it many, many times.

And some of the clothing worn to an interview, omg! I once read where a recent college graduate wore her high school prom dress to an interview because it was formal and she thought wearing something formal to an interview would be appropriate!

LMFAO @ the girl going there in her prom dress. That had me in hysterics. We're talking by and large. By and large, you won't find girls going to job interviews in prom dress or say hooker wear. You can get crazy exceptions here and there in any scenario. But this is not the new theme in young America the way Judy complained about it.

I took the liberty of looking up statistics that I could find on this online. The following article http://www.kcra.com/article/why-employers-say-millennials-can-t-get-a-job/6411271 reads that indeed there are young people that think it's ok to respond to a text during an interview. But according to the hiring managers association it's a "small number" of young people. Again, it's only popular theme in the world where your kids are spoiled by grandma coming home with bucko bucks and they know they don't have to work. LOL!

[–] jac91604 8 years ago

pvd295, well this is the woman who tells people "YA MOVE" after they have just moved into a place and things don't work out well.

She doesn't get that when someone moves it costs money, could be a few thousand dollars and many just can't move again.

This is also the woman when people say they got laid off roles her eyes.

My favorite was when a woman who got laid off explained her job was over, and Judy said "you said laid off, so you will get called back to work again"...sigh.

No, Judge Judy this isn't the 1970s where people got laid off and than called back to work a few months later.

Laid off today and has for years meant, your job is gone.

[–] Tatmanlulu_BACK 8 years ago

pvd295, well this is the woman who tells people "YA MOVE" after they have just moved into a place and things don't work out well.

She doesn't get that when someone moves it costs money, could be a few thousand dollars and many just can't move again.

This is also the woman when people say they got laid off roles her eyes.

My favorite was when a woman who got laid off explained her job was over, and Judy said "you said laid off, so you will get called back to work again"...sigh.

No, Judge Judy this isn't the 1970s where people got laid off and than called back to work a few months later.

Laid off today and has for years meant, your job is gone.

This is what I've been trying to say but these b2tches decided to come for me on this board for that and they swiftly learned they better come correct.