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JJ's plea to SSI not to fund people in prison

posted 8 years ago by pvd295
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The other day on the show, JJ took offense that American taxpayers were still funding the defendant in front of her, who spent some time in jail. He collected about $700 in disability, and JJ said it's wrong for taxpayers to pay for his prison as well as disability. She then looked into the TV camera and asked the 'new administration' to put an end to this. She got a round of applause, as her intent seemed reasonable.

But quite honestly, as a taxpayer, I'm not concerned with this guy getting $700-800 a month in disability, while we 'pay' for his prison cell.

I'm more concerned with my taxpayer dollars funding retirements for judges, mayors, governors, and others who end up in jail (aka 'country club') for their white-collar crimes which include embezzlement, tax-dodging, racketeering, bribery, extortion and mail fraud as well as other white-collar crimes while in office. They are still eligible to collect their state and federal pensions - earning between tens of thousands of dollars to hundreds of dollars each month - while we're footing the bill for them to go on a Federal vacation.

C'mon Judy - leave this guy alone. Start pleading with lawmakers to take away the government-taxpayer funded 'multi-thousand and hundred thousand' pensions and retirements of these white-collar criminals before you take away $700.

"Splodey heads keep splodin' " - Sarah Palin, 7-1-16 

[–] engle_james 8 years ago

You know that tax payers not only pay his social security, but also for his stay in prison. So we're really paying double!

However, I think social security benefits do stop if the recipient is in a psych hospital, nursing home, or prison, or if they don't stop, then they money goes directly to the facility they're at. Can anyone clarify?

[–] hack-stone 8 years ago

They are supposed to stop, but unless someone notifies the Social Security Administration, they are are not going to go searching through every county, state and federal prison database to cross reference to SS recipients.

[–] jmichael3387 8 years ago

There is no argument for all of this welfare. Anyone who is persistent in their applications can get free money for life.

The only argument I ever hear is that others (like judges in this case) receive unwarranted money also. That may be true. BUT....there are 100 million people who receive unwarranted welfare. As opposed to maybe a few dozen judges who don't deserve their pensions. Welfare is what's killing the country.

[–] pvd295 8 years ago

In my little state alone (RI), in the past 25 years, there have been more politicians (mayors, governors, state legislators, etc) and judges who have been found guilty of white-collar crime (racketeering, bribery, embezzlement), where their state pensions are in the hundreds of thousands, and we're footing the bill while they go off to a federal country club for a few years. So now we're paying for a five-star prison 'for their safety' (can't house them with 'violent criminals), as well as their pensions, life-long health benefits (for them and their spouses), and much more.

THAT is what I want stopped - not some man who ended up in a state prison and was collection $750.

And then there are those I read about across the nation - federal employees, pliticians, judges, etc who have been convicted of white collar crime, and we're footing the bill for both their prison stay and all their pensions, etc. Disgusting.

BUT....there are 100 million people who receive unwarranted welfare. As opposed to maybe a few dozen judges who don't deserve their pensions. Welfare is what's killing the country.

I'm not sure where you're getting the 100 million people on unwarranted welfare? What is your source?

As far as the few dozen judges (again, not sure where you're getting the number), throw in the politicians as well - and you would be surprised as to how much we're paying for government officials. Again, the man on the show is getting $750 a month. Do you think a judge's pension funded by taxpayers is only $750 /mo. ? So one Judge probably equals ten welfare recipients.

"Splodey heads keep splodin' " - Sarah Palin, 7-1-16 

[–] jmichael3387 8 years ago

pvd295....I agree that corrupt judges, politicians, or whoever should lose their state-funded pensions.

But yes, I'm still more worried about the 'little guy' who receives $750/month that he doesn't deserve. Because there are 106 million people on welfare....as opposed to 114 million people working. And the numbers keep getting worse all the time.

[–] TravisTheSky 8 years ago

Oh, Pv, your post does make me long for the days when "GraceFromSoCal" would swoop right into a thread like this and passionately defend SSDI whilst explaining its difference from SSI with patience, gentleness and thoroughness.

The last time she messaged me about ideas for money-making ventures, she asked me to be sure to send updates. I've had a lot of success and have been keen to share it with her.

Sigh.

---My youtube about the fire---
http://bit.ly/MyOldVHSTapes

[–] pvd295 8 years ago

But yes, I'm still more worried about the 'little guy' who receives $750/month that he doesn't deserve. Because there are 106 million people on welfare....as opposed to 114 million people working. And the numbers keep getting worse all the time.

In your previous post, you mentioned "100 million were on unwarranted welfare" and I did ask where you got that number from. Now if 106M are on welfare, then according to your figures only 6M belong on welfare - and that doesn't make sense (to me, at least).

"Splodey heads keep splodin' " - Sarah Palin, 7-1-16 

[–] pvd295 8 years ago

Just this year alone, the Fed AG has arrested 3 elected politicians for some kind of unlawful activities, and charged them with felonies - all unrelated. If convicted, they can each face more than 10 years in federal prison. Each of these politicians make a lot more than I do, and - as I said from past experience - not only is there the possibility that we will be sending them on a Federal vacation, but taxpayers will continue to fund their pensions and health insurance, as well as pay them (or their spouse) their salary while away.

And we're only four weeks into 2017.

In the meantime, a trial has begun for a state Judge who has 63 counts against him for corruption, sexual misconduct, and other illegal activities while a sitting Judge for the past 10 years. He makes just under $250,000 a year. He's been on 'paid leave of absence' since his arrest last June. Guess who's paying him? Guess who's going to fund him while in jail?

These are the guys who grab my attention - not the $750 welfare recipient serving time.

"Splodey heads keep splodin' " - Sarah Palin, 7-1-16 

[–] jmichael3387 8 years ago

In your previous post, you mentioned "100 million were on unwarranted welfare" and I did ask where you got that number from. Now if 106M are on welfare, then according to your figures only 6M belong on welfare - and that doesn't make sense (to me, at least).

6M people on welfare still seems like too much. Are there 6M Americans who are paralyzed or completely bedridden due to serious illness?

And you say this year there are already 3 elected politicians who have been arrested. At this rate, there might be 40 for the year. So 40 people with unwarranted pensions. I still say 100M people with unwarranted welfare is the bigger problem.