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Given all the love Frank showed for food


through out the series, I am surprised he stuck his nose up at the Fruit of the Month thing.

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Good point!

It was food.

And it was free.

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I still don't know why Marie was even more horrified at the prospect of a box of apricots! They make great jam and chutney and in cooking too.

SkiesAreBlue

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It's a good point.

My best guess:

Marie (especially) and Frank are "old school". Being a great cook, Marie probably delighted in food shopping. She would enjoy going to the market and selecting each individual piece of fruit. Touching it, feeling it, smelling it, tasting it.

The idea of it being shipped in a box to her house was foreign to her. And was distasteful/horrifying to her "old school" senses.

To Marie and her "old school" ways, it seemed "cheap" and "wrong". No different than comparing, say, home-made sauce to store-bought canned sauce. Or a homemade dinner to a frozen dinner. Or a cake made from scratch versus one from the box. And so forth.

There is an elegant and refined way to cook, to prepare meals, and to shop. And then there is the cheap, tawdry substitute. For Marie, the latter was not an option.

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Yeah. She mocked Debra buying frosting in a can, telling her it's apparently easier than homemade.

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Exactly!

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Yes, I take your point. Marie and Frank couldn't handle anything "new". 😆

SkiesAreBlue

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Definitely.

Remember how resistant Frank was to the "clean, crisp, clear sounds of the CD music" versus the "old, scratchy sounds of the vinyl records"?

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😂
SkiesAreBlue

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Yep. Usually how it goes for many. They don't accept change well. They stick to what they grew up with and know very well. Nothing to get used to or learn anymore. And sometimes it's just for sentimental reasons. Just takes you back to happy times.

I am the same. I preferred the simple flip phones to the new touch screen phones with all the extra crap going on. I used a touch screen for all of 1 week before I took it back, and am still using a flip. Ravine 2. Probably odd to see someone in their 20s still using one, but oh well. lol I'll use a TS phone when I no longer have much of a choice.

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Yes, I agree 100%.

People want to stick with what they know and are comfortable with.

Even, as you say, for sentimental reasons.

And the older you get, the harder it is to change. (Or, rather, the more resistant you become to even wanting to change.)

Frank and Marie: perfect examples.

PS: I absolutely hate cell phones, not to mention smart phones. I am happy with my land-line.

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I am the same. I preferred the simple flip phones to the new touch screen phones with all the extra crap going on. I used a touch screen for all of 1 week before I took it back, and am still using a flip. Ravine 2. Probably odd to see someone in their 20s still using one, but oh well. lol I'll use a TS phone when I no longer have much of a choice.


Glad i'm not alone in that. I'm also in my 20s and using a flip phone. Part of it is because I just don't go for the whole "buy an unnecessary new model every year" thing, and part of it is because it's just better IMO. Maybe it doesn't have a crapload of flashy features to keep me glued to it every second of the day (but really, how much does a phone actually need?), but for instance it's impossible to accidentally butt-dial people with a flip phone, and harder to break the screen by accident.

Just because something is new doesn't automatically mean it's better.

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I thought you were going to say he should have had a huge weight problem, when you factor in Marie's cooking talent

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Well has Frank ever shown to care much about fruit to want cases of it every month? lol If it were steak or meat of some kind, then maybe. lol

In King of Queens Doug likes food, and is fat. But even he isn't happy for just anything. He hates fruit. Carrie tried to get him to eat an apple, and he didn't want to.

Plus, it's a matter of pride. We all know Frank is prideful. Look at the aquarium. Frank loved it. But then when he found out it cost tons of money, he got mad at Ray and didn't want the gift because it's a reminder that Ray makes much more money than him. Even though he loved the aquarium before that. But his pride being hurt trumped his previous love of the gift.

So as he said about FotM, it makes it seem like they're invalids, who can't go get their own fruit.

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it was the first eposode.. the series hadn't yet gotten its legs, no real character development yet.. they probably would have reacted differently in season 3 after we knew of Marie's penchant for cooking, and Frank's willingness to eat anything dropped in front of him.

except for maybe the pears.. those taste like ass.


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The Fruit of the Month Club was from the very first episode?

Are you sure?

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Yep. It was the pilot.

Debra;s birthday is coming up, and she doesn't want Ray's family there because they'd started coming over too much, Frank always wakes up the kids, and they recently stopped calling before coming over.

Ray goes to his parents house to uninvite them to Debra's party, and when he brings up birthday, Marie talks about the box of pears he sent her "from a place called Fruit of the Month" that finally arrived that day.

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I never really watched the show's episodes "in order".

So, I saw the "Fruit of the Month" references much later in my viewing experience.

Thanks.

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I did good with this thread! I can tell!

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Yes, it was a good topic.

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I think he was more of a meat and potatoes kind of guy. Sandwiches, hot Italian dishes with cake and desserts. I'm going to hypothesize that fruit wasn't his specialty.

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Marie and Frank weren't healthy eating people. They loved food, Marie saw food as ingredients....I can't see her or Frank reaching for a pear when hungry.
Everything they eat may be fresh and homemade, but it was covered in red meat and cheese.

Another poster made a point about Marie being old school and enjoying picking out her own ingredients.... I agree. I think Marie would probably buy fruit to put in food, but a basket of fruit (that she doesn't get to choose) would be wasteful.

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That is surprising but I think the idea of different fruit in a month is what got the idea got him to him to hate the whole idea. And hew is like "we cam buy our own fruit", and even through you don't mention it it is priceless on Marie's reaction when Ray tells her that that they will get getting different fruit a month, and she freaks out when it really is called fruit of the month, I mean what was she thinking?

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Maybe Frank didn't like fruits very much.


But PROBABLY b/c the way they talked the fruit was arriving in big quantities and fruits can spoil REALLY fast, esp. things like pears and bananas. Peaches go pretty fast too, so they probably felt like they'd have to EAT it all really fast or do something with it.

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That could be too

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Still find it odd that with all Marie's cooking she didn't think to preserve the fruit. I know, it's a sitcom it needed to be wacky 😆

SkiesAreBlue

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