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Why not send Jesus instead of Simon.


I mean wouldn't Jesus be the most bad ass guy from heaven. Wouldn't he have the best odds at succeeding in retrieving Hawthornes soul. I mean he IS the son of God. No one can fck with Jesus. He's fcking Jesus for Christ's sakes.

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The only other person, other than Jesus, that should have been sent would have been Joan of Arc. She got shafted by Heaven too. She was ever faithful to The Archangel Michael, who gave her her marching orders, and Saint Catherine, under whose churches altar Joan found her sword she used in battle. She had "NO FEAR" written all over her. She would have made an excellent foil for Gabriel. She would have been called up by Michael once again, under orders from God, to save all Humanity.

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When is the movie coming out?

Seriously, that would be a great premise for a film of this genre, something original and historical to boot.

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Last i checked according to christian mythology (ie the bible/torah) bodies cant just be created out of whole cloth. The idea that god would somehow want the French tyrants to defeat their cousins (literally) the English tyrants.. of all the problems on the planet a little snickerworthy.

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Perhaps Joan of Arc was being groomed for a greater purpose. Christian mythology says a woman started humanity down the wrong path. The Archangel Michael could have been testing her. If she was able to unite a nation, she may have had the ability to unite all nations. Therefore, a woman putting humanity back on the straight and narrow. Bringing, once again, peace on Earth. If that were to happen, He could put up His armour, and take a well deserved R & R.

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Never read Book of Revolation, but is Jesus shown there as some kind of action hero? Because I can't picture Jesus being violent or fighting.


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He's a drenched-in-blood, tattooed mass murderer in the Revelation, fulfilling his promise "not to bring peace, but the sword" and to tear families apart.

Nice guy.

_Richard

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He's a drenched-in-blood, tattooed mass murderer in the Revelation, fulfilling his promise "not to bring peace, but the sword" and to tear families apart.

Cool. They could make a Mad Max style Jesus movie with that.


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I'd love to see that, but never will. No company would ever produce such a film -- the backlash would be too immense. Plus, the filmmakers would never hear the end of it from Christians on how what Jesus says and does in Revelation isn't what he says and does in Revelation. They'll nag, and nag, and nag, and spin the most ridiculous excuses and reinterpretations of what is printed in painfully clear language in the book to support their belief that Jesus was the ultimate Mr. Nice Guy; I don't know about you, but were I a producer on the film, that mental gymnastics stuff would drive me absolutely crazy.

_Richard

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I'd love to see that, but never will. No company would ever produce such a film -- the backlash would be too immense. Plus, the filmmakers would never hear the end of it from Christians on how what Jesus says and does in Revelation isn't what he says and does in Revelation. They'll nag, and nag, and nag, and spin the most ridiculous excuses and reinterpretations of what is printed in painfully clear language in the book to support their belief that Jesus was the ultimate Mr. Nice Guy; I don't know about you, but were I a producer on the film, that mental gymnastics stuff would drive me absolutely crazy.

_Richard



The 2nd Iron Sky movie has Jesus with machine guns. He comes down to fight Nazis who ride dinosaurs

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Have you read the Book of Revelation? And are you familiar with words spoke by Jesus as those I excerpt in this post?: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0114194/board/nest/29958634?p=3&d=1726 22847#172622847

Sorry, man, but I spent four years in Catholic high school, for years undergraduate and two years post-graduate at Georgetown University -- a Jesuit university -- studying the Bible a hell of a lot, so I'd hardly say that I know "nothing about the Word of God."

_Richard

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I mean wouldn't Jesus be the most bad ass guy from heaven.
Depends. The synoptic Jesus who couldn't make a fig tree bear fruit? Oh, God, no. The cosmic psychopath from the closing book of the Bible? Oh, Hell, yea -- wait, no, he's all about killing the world, too, so he's not good to go with, either. The Jesus of the average Christian's faith, i.e., the uber duber sweetheart super-being dude? Sure, why not? Make of him what you want. Most Christians do, in my experience.

_Richard

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I agree, they should've just made an action movie about Jesus (Koteas) taking out the devil (be it Walken) and his bunch of cronies all on his own. This movie showed me that even if you got great or moderately good actors like Walken, Mortensen, Plummer, Stoltz, Madsen and Koteas, great vistas and special effects, a supernatural story like that could still end up being in the realm of pretentious nonsense.

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The romans *beep* with" him pretty well.

This modern far right christianity is bizarre. Trying to be "warriors for jesus" when his philosophy was peace and love.

And you might as well say 'why didnt god come down" (only in MODERN christianity via catholicism are jesus and god considered the same entity). The same reason he sent angels to do his dirty work I would imagine.

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Let's not forget that Jesus was expert in the use of bullwhips. He chased the merchants from the marketplace because they were doing business on The Sabbath. As a Pagan, I am very rusty in my Bible study, but I remember that scene with clarity. The Christ was a one man purifing machine in Revelations. He and Michael make up an awesome tag team. To see them both in a motion picture would be wonderful. Still think Joan of Arc should play a hand in the story. She could be returned to Earth to bring the nations together, as she brought France together. Not planning on it though.

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Modern times started in AD 325? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Council_of_Nicaea

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If Jesus would've been sent instead, there really wouldn't be much of a movie would there?

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Don't you know that Jesus isn't only supposed to be the son of God, but Jesus also IS God, and God surely doesn't fight

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God fights alongside his Chosen People in the Old Testament. He brags about putting down Leviathan in the OT Book of Job. And he is augured as coming back and cutting up the bulk of humanity with his mouth sword in the New Testament's Book of Revelation. So to say that "God surely doesn't fight" is simply wrong. He is an extremely violent character.

_Richard

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