Man.....Stupid movie


ha ha ha over acting. Christopher Walken is always awesome, and there were some really funny parts, but as a whole this movie was awful. Trying to find Gabriel minutes after he ran into him in the church, just stupid! I could go on and on. Could have been a great movie. It's like the movie had 3 or 4 different writers and one of them was really good and the others stunk. Very odd.

Lewis Marklin Mash

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Huh? Not really sure what you're talking about there. Are you refering to when Thomas is in the church and then Gabriel shows up out of nowhere and they have a bit of a discussion? The scene in the church happens at night and then the next time Thomas sees Gabriel it's at Marys trailer during the day after he and Katherine went into the cave.

As far as thinking the movie was awful. Hey, that's cool. Each to their own.

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Yeah, it seemed like less than 24 hours, and he had no clue that the guy in the church was his guy, when it seemed pretty obvious. Just lazy writing in my opinion ;)


Lewis Marklin Mash

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Yeah. I can see where you're coming from. But if you think about it, at that point Thomas had no idea what/who he was looking for. All he knows is that Uziel was killed at an apartment where his thesis happened to be and that later Uziel was burned in the morgue. He had the old bible that he transcribed and the newspaper from Chimey Rock that they found at the apartment and he decides the answers to his questions might be there. So when he gets to Chimney Rock he still has no idea that Gabriel even exists. Their first interaction comes in the church and all Thomas knows is that this stranger happens to know his name and then said something cryptic about giving him the dent in his upper lip. For all Thomas knows, this could be the local town drunk or something.

So, long story short, that is why I look at it differently than you. I just view it as Thomas being in a strange town and approached by a stanger saying something that caught him off guard. But at that point, he really wasn't even sure of what all was going on so why would he stop Gabriel or know that he's involved in anyway?

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That's true. I think if I was a cop involved in a case this strange and someone in a town that small in the middle of nowhere approached me and knew my name, I would want answers! Just saying ;) Most cops, especially from the city are pretty aggressive.

Lewis Marklin Mash

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Here's the actual scene from the Shooting Draft. Fairly similar but some differences. The part about "look at me" and "dent in your lip" aren't there but I like that they were added.

INT. THE TOWN CHURCH

Small, simple, and woodplanked. The church we saw at the
beginning. Thomas sits there, staring at the candles, the
altar, the crucifix.

He's alone there. But for a creeping buzz. A feeling in the
air.

GABRIEL'S VOICE
It's unusual to see someone of your
age in church on a weekday.

Thomas turns in surprise. Gabriel is kneeling in the row
behind, inches from his ear.

GABRIEL
Don't get me wrong. I think it's an
excellent sign of character.

There's something cold and creepy about Gabriel. Out of place
in here. There's another sound. Teeth chattering far in the
back. Thomas turns and sees Jerry, deep in the shadows of
the choir box. Jerry waves.

GABRIEL
Never mind him. He shouldn't even be
in here. Least not standing.

Those sunglasses. Impenetrably dark. Like at the skid row
flophouse.

GABRIEL
You're not from here.

DAGGETT
Either are you.

GABRIEL
I'm looking for something.

DAGGETT
Have you found it?

GABRIEL
I will. Have you found what you're
looking for?

DAGGETT
I will.

GABRIEL
(appraising him)
I don't doubt it.
(stands)
You'll let me know? When you find
it?

DAGGETT
Where are you staying?

GABRIEL
I'm around.

And he walks out, leaving Thomas alone in a place gone
suddenly cold.

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Silly, bad movie. It's like a bad comic book.

Mortensen is a capable actor, but Viggo's Lucifer was terrible. Like some hokey heavy metal band lead singer. I find it hard to believe all the post here saying he was great. Jon Lovitz in red tights and devil horns was a better Satan.

Walken's monkey talk was just ridiculous. It undercuts any menace his character supposedly should have.

It was slightly entertaining.

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i think it's decent in its own right but there are some points which makes no sense...

for example... Gabriel seems to have a lot of powers, can kill and fire things. but "it" (no genders) doesnt kill Thomas and Katherine in the van. Also "it" desperately needs someone to drive the car.

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Good points but I still enjoyed it.

"I am the ultimate badass, you do not wanna `*beep*` wit me!"- Hudson in Aliens.

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Id say it was good in it's time, just didn't hold up well.

The people who really like it probably saw it in the 90's

I'm watching it right now, right out the gate I just thought the acting was bad (can't remember the actors name with the red hair and beard, but I wasn't impressed with his first scene)

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