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Available services in early/mid-90s


-I'm watching this for the first time now and I was wondering because I don't remember as I was 7 when this movie came out and we didn't have a computer yet. But were their services around in 94/95 that allowed you to buy airline tickets online and order pizzas online? It seems Dominoe's just started doing online ordering around 2007/2008 and I had never heard of it before then. Then again I've seen commericals for the early Apple computers of the 80s and they were advertising paying bills online/via computer. Does anyone recall using these services in the early/mid 90s? Also, when she was online on the beach with her laptop, how was she using the internet, did they have wireless in '95, when did that come around? I was born in '88 so wouldn't remember that well if some of these things were around as we didn't get a home computer with Internet until mid '98. I'd used it before then, but wasn't completely familiar with it until we really had our own computer.


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I was wondering the same thing-NO ONE i knew had the internet in summer '95, let alone '94 when the script was written/movie was shot. yet there was windows95, so a very small % of the pop. had to use it, and i'm sure it was all very primitive.

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I dont remember any wireless networking back in 94/95 but then I wasent much into computera so IDK, but just because she was on a laptop on the beach dosent mean she was using the internet. She could of just been debugging an application for work. That dosent require internet.

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NCR's WaveLAN brand of wireless networking was introduced in 1988. However it was mostly used for point-of-sale (cash register) systems and I don't think it was even available to the average Joe-- much less Sandra Bullock-- in 1995. Though it eventually did become the backbone for the modern WiFi standard.

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I had internet access in early 1994. It was so limited by the weak computers of the time that I was only able to access chat rooms and could not view web pages. I don't know how it was for other people.

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I had a high speed dial up modem for the time in 95, I did shopping online, chatting, email, etc.. There were graphics similar to what was in the movie, but of course nothing with streaming video like we have to day with youtube.


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Yes, the World Wide Web (browser service) took off around that time, mainly with Netscrape (pun intended). The Internet itself has been around since ARPANet well over 30 years ago. But as far as services, mainly dial-up, and I believe Prodigy, Compu$erve and AOL were the main ISPs that most people used. BBSes (bulletin board systems) started to fade out around that time as well.

There was no wireless in use by individuals until about 1996 I believe, and that wasn't WiFi, it was WAP and devices like PCMCIA cards and Metricom or cricket devices. CAT 5 Ethernet using the RJ-45 jacks were around then, with about maximum of 10Mbps, but individuals used dial-up at much slower speeds (hence the challenge handshake connection sound you hear in the movie).

As far as ordering pizza, airline tickets, etc... nope, those companies never had that back then, so you could say in a way this helped bring that about. There's so much cool stuff in this movie that came true, especially identity theft. This is my favorite Sandra Bullock movie :)

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I was lucky enough that my parents worked for IBM in the early and mid 90's. We had gadgets and PC magazines galore. 1993 was the year I sent my first email and discovered IRC (which had existed for years prior to that. ;) During that time I also remember that we had "high-speed" (28.8 then 56k) modems, email services, remote access, web browsing in '94 and variously used OS/2, win 3.1, '95 and 2 good machines (1 PC and 1 apple) plus a laptop my father used for work. I watched this movie when it came out and I saw it again a few months ago for the nostalgic grins.

While I was watching it I wondered how much of the stuff shown -really- existed when I was a kid an how much I -think- existed because of this movie. So I did some research. ;)

As to the Pizza Ordering mystery, see this press release from 1994 http://www.interesting-people.org/archives/interesting-people/199408/msg00057.html Most of this type of stuff was localized pilots or proof of concept trials. Not exactly available to Regular Joes all across the world but then again, Bullocks character isn't a Regular Joe. Access to book seats "online" did exist but also wasn't available to most people. Store fronts and form submissions existed. eBay was founded the same year this movie came out and Rolling Stone mag had a site up in the mid 90's with sound clips and subscription forms.

The only thing I can think of that might be more science fiction then fact is the beach scene. But then again, she could have been connected via satellite. I don't remember that scene well enough to know what she was using or how it was depicted. It could have been a Cellular Phone Interface PC card. Maybe. As a kid we didn't have that sort of stuff so I'm not sure what it really could do, but I do know tech existed that allowed a select few to do exactly what she was doing.

This movie came out a couple of years before the dot com bubble -really- shot off into the stratosphere. So in a sense, this movie depicts what was being talked about in board rooms, think tanks, development arenas and in locations populated by anyone interested in pushing the technologies available into the future. And there where many, many people doing so.

So, while this movie isn't Bullock's best role and is rather crap on action and acting all around, I love it for the slice of time it represents and as a glimpse into what the hell was about to be unleashed upon an unsuspecting humanity. In the end, this move was really -well- researched (just wish the directing and acting where at the same level.)

And as a trip down memory lane (or to know what the hell the older farts are talking about) check this collection out http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_websites_founded_before_1995

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I believe she hacked herself into the sistem used by the airlines to book their flights. I know someone who sorks in a travel agency and they used a non graphical interface to check flights and weather.

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Sorry I never got a notification of a reply here. lol. But you're right, it is more or less a time and place, sights, sounds and smell. The best times were the 80s :)

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"As far as ordering pizza, airline tickets, etc... nope, those companies never had that back then, so you could say in a way this helped bring that about."

You need to stop stating opinions and beliefs as facts when you clearly have no idea what you're talking about.

Booking and purchasing airline tickets online has been available since the very early 1980s. Of all the online commercial services that came about in the 1980s, that was one of the first! It was called easySABRE and could be accessed on its own or via CompuServe.

The SABRE computer reservation system itself was developed in the late 1950s and became accessible to regular customers via online around 1979/1980, both via a direct dial-up connection and through CompuServe. More information (though not complete) at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sabre_(computer_system)

As for ordering pizza and food online (groceries, etc.), that has also been available in various forms online since at least the mid-to-late 1980s, and this wasn't anything ground-breaking since it's a very localized service and the technology to do that has been around since the 1980s.

Ditto for ordering anything else online, i.e. furniture, movies, music, etc. CompuServe and Prodigy were the two principal services for doing this, and CompuServe was the first nationwide service to provide commercial services.

Lastly, CompuServe and Prodigy were *not* ISPs! They did not begin providing direct access to the Internet until the late 1990s. Beginning in 1995, they provided limited Internet access, but not a direct connection.

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You are talking about SABRE, some sort of big system. If you read my post it said "those companies", i.e. Delta, American Airlines, etc. who themselves didn't have the ability back then to provide such a service directly to customers. And we're talking about this movie's timeframe, are we not? I never talked about the 80s.

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I don't understand your point about "those companies".

I personally was obtaining airline tickets online in the late '80s, using Eaasy Sabre via CompuServe. You are correct that Delta did not have any online ticket-ordering system, but American, which owned Sabre, most assuredly did, and Sabre handled ticketing for _ALL_ airlines, so you could order tickets for Delta flights via Sabre.

As for "talking about this movie's timeframe", the movie was released in 1995 and it was not placed in the distant past, its timeframe was the mid '90s, so Sabre was most assuredly available to anybody with a computer who wanted access and was willing to pay.

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The websites Delta.com, etc. did not offer such ordering system with SSL, or was in its infancy. I lived and worked in Silicon Valley in the 90s, worked for the big companies, Intel, 3com, a whole bunch of dotcom companies, etc.

We tried to make the user interface for websites better, but that just did not exist until after this movie (which was made in 1994, the same year SSL was formed in Netscape). Back then we still called the companies up to order things. That other guy kept complaining when I was referring to the World Wide Web browsers, not that archaic Compu$erve that I got ripped off on. lol. Obviously those systems you can order whatever you wanted just about.

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"The websites Delta.com, etc. did not offer such ordering system with SSL, or was in its infancy."

I was ordering tickets on Delta flights online before there WAS such a thing as ".com". Sabre was accessible to anybody who had a CompuServe account long before the Web existed.

"We tried to make the user interface for websites better, but that just did not exist until after this movie (which was made in 1994, the same year SSL was formed in Netscape)."

Oh, you're one of those children who thinks that online services started with the Web. One did not need SSL, a web browser, or even an Internet connection to order airline tickets. I still remember my first experience with a Web browser--it was a release of Mosaic that shipped with an update to OS/2.

"That other guy kept complaining when I was referring to the World Wide Web browsers, not that archaic Compu$erve that I got ripped off on. lol."

And he's right. One did not need any kind of Web browser to order airline tickets. Or access to an Web site. Or to any other service hosted by the airline on which one was buying the tickets. If you think you got ripped off on a Compuserve account you never priced pre-Web Internet access.

"Back then we still called the companies up to order things."

Your choice. Didn't mean that someone else couldn't order them online.

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You seemed to be just as confused as that other guy. I wasn't stating that you couldn't order things online through those services, I explicitly was referring to the web BROWSERS just like in that movie. So let's not go there. I worked for these companies.

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"You seemed to be just as confused as that other guy. I wasn't stating that you couldn't order things online through those services, I explicitly was referring to the web BROWSERS just like in that movie. So let's not go there. I worked for these companies."

For which companies? The only company relevant to airline ticketing was American Airlines. Did you work for them?

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I remember how secure my banking was in the late '90's! I had a direct link to their server and didn't have to bank over The Internet! The icon with a $ sign and then my modem dialed them instead of AOL! That didn't last long! I also remember after getting online with AOL going to Netscape for a search engine. When my husband first saw my computer he laughed at me! He hated AOL & said it took over my whole computer. I didn't get a super fast cable modem until 2001.

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TIL: Identity Theft is "cool stuff" ;)

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I didn't use the internet until 1998. We had it at school and everyone was talking about this new internet thing, so I decided to use it. I remember logging on and reading about the winter Olympics on some news site. Apparently 1998 makes me a late-bloomer in internet years. But honestly, I never heard ANYTHING about the internet before then! I'm curious about other users' experiences.

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I didn't use the internet until 1998. We had it at school and everyone was talking about this new internet thing, so I decided to use it. I remember logging on and reading about the winter Olympics on some news site. Apparently 1998 makes me a late-bloomer in internet years. But honestly, I never heard ANYTHING about the internet before then! I'm curious about other users' experiences.


I briefly recall using it in the mid 90s in the school computer labs. The few kids that did have it at home used it to print out video game cheat sheets or dirty jokes and sold them outside our school.

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My family only had a Commodore 64 until I demanded in 98 we had to get an upgrade because I was going to high school & I needed a way to do research at home. We got AOL back then, I used the IMs, chat rooms, and web to research. But nothing like ordering pizza, or any shopping.

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My friend used a dial-up text-based service and mostly IRC in the mid-90s.

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