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So much worse than I remember


I recently re-watched this movie. Wow, it's just so bad, it's painful like a B rated movie. I'm amazed they were able to make such great video games compared to the source movie.

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I know and I didn't think they did anything interesting with Bond's character, plus it was just the same old "let's dominate the world with our space laser" plot. It was competently made though, but to me it's a middle of the road (slightly leaning to the bottom half) Bond film.

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Yes, this movie is way overrated. I think people just try to remember it with rose-colored glasses.
"Sure, the Brosnan films weren't very good...except Goldeneye....wow was Goldeneye good!"

Really?
You've got the annoying Joe Don Baker, being the stereotypical/cliched loudmouth American, calling Bond "Jimmy" and "Jimbo".

You've got the annoying Alan CUmming being dorky and annoying.

You've got plain, often annoying Bond girls....like Famke and Izabella. Even the shrink who was supposed to evaluate Bond in the beginning of the movie was just....meh.

Zukovsky (Robbie Coltrane) and the Russian Colonel were lame.

Sean Bean was only decent as the spy gone bad.

Even the locales were not very cool or exotic.

The puns were just lame, and B-level.

It might be the best of the Brosnan years....but that's not saying much. And I'm a big fan of Brosnan. His Bond films, however, were not very good....and don't hold up well over time. Die Another Day was so ridiculous it essentially forced a reboot. I mean...where do you go after invisible cars, complete face (and race) switching, and Bond windsurfing on a tidal wave (using a car door and a parachute)??

Casino Royale rescued this franchise, hands down. While Brosnan's Bond is prancing around in tuxedos...never a hair out of place....worrying if his little martinis are shaken or stirred.....Daniel Craig's Bond kills an assassin in a stairwell....with his bare hands....then goes back up to his suite, slugs down a double scotch, puts on a clean shirt....and heads back down to the poker game. And when asked if he'd like his drink shaken or stirred? "Do I look like I give a damn?"

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I enjoy Goldeneye much more on repeat rewatches compared to Casino Royale. CR is arguably just as ridiculous as Goldeneye. The whole love story is hackneyed, and Craig just looks like a Polish boxer. He is boring.

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Casino Royale is also overrated but I would say it's better than Goldeneye (heck I think Mask of Zorro is Campbell's best film). One thing I will never forgive Casino Royale for was what they did to the gunbarrel, there are some things you simply don't mess with.

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"One thing I will never forgive Casino Royale for was what they did to the gunbarrel"

Yeah, its as bad as the Mickey Mouse joke in Indiana Jones 3!!!!

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It's up there

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Oh aside from Brosnan and Bean the cast was average at best to flat out annoying. I HATED Joe Don Baker (also didn't he die in TLD???), so obviously Felix Leiter 2.0, they should have just brought Felix back and had him be in a wheelchair or something like they did in the novels. Natalya and Xenia were pure cringe, I wanted to slap the living crap out of Boris for his overacting and even Judi Dench was subpar.

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Thank you! I’ve never understood the infatuation for this film, and I’ve been a HUGE Bond fan from Day One. It’s boring, Boris is face-punch annoying, Jansen is just BLAND. The only thing in its favor is that Roger Moore ain’t in it.

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Nothing wrong with it.

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Brosnan and Bean have no chemistry and completely distant. It was as if they were filmed at different times. Were they actually standing across each other?

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Agreed. It’s pretty cringe-worthy.

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I never cared for it, even when I saw it at the theater. I like the Joe Don Baker scenes though. Yeah they were a bit hokey but at least they kept me from falling asleep.

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It's great. My favourite Bond movie. Just the right balance of action, humour and real world politics.

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Did you see it recently?

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Yes.

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