Not as evil as his brother


Hans wouldn't have thought twice about blowing up a school.

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I doubt it. Plenty of bad guys draw lines between killing adults and killing children or babies. I remember in the first Die Hard McClane's wife asked Hans if they could move a pregnant woman into a room with a sofa and Hans said he would bring a sofa out for her. If he really was evil enough to blow up a school full of kids he wouldn't have given two *beep* about a pregnant woman.

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It was nice of him to make her back more comfortable before sending her to the roof to be blown up.

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True Hans was going to kill them all anyways. And since the woman was pregnant you could argue that Hans was knowingly killing a baby as well. Which makes him pretty bad. But you could also argue that when Simon blew up the department store in the beginning of the movie and then the subway train later he knew there would undoubtedly be children or babies around. So that makes Simon at least as bad, if not worse than Hans since he was willing to kill many dozens of people.

But specifically bombing a school that's filled primarily with kids, you do have to be a special kind of monster for that. Fact is, we don't know if Hans would have done it based on his actions in the first movie. If Simon refused to do it even though he tried to kill an entire subway train full of people then Hans probably wouldn't have done it either. They're both professional thieves and killers, not religious fanatics.

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I actually agree with you on all of that. I don't think either would've been willing to blow up a school full of children. I was just making a sarcastic joke, for fun. This and the first are my favorites of the Die Hard franchise.

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heheh ok

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KrustytheDude posted

But specifically bombing a school that's filled primarily with kids, you do have to
be a special kind of monster for that.

But he never blew up the school. He just made people think he was going to so that the police and other authorities wouldn't go to the Federal Reserve where he was stealing the gold. So yeah. He didn't end up doing it nor did he plan to. Also I think he knew that McClaine would end up getting on the train, getting the bomb and try to dispose of it rather than going to the phone. As is said that bomb was going to go off even if they'd gone straight to the subway station to go to the pay phone. So yeah. McClaine ended up making the subway bombing less severe. Actually it was said in the movie that people only got injured and nobody was killed.

Green Goblin is great! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t1L4ZuaVvaw

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I think you misunderstood my comments. I didn't say he blew up the school. I was making an argument on why Simon and Hans wouldn't blow up a school.

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Oh. I misunderstood you Krusty.

Green Goblin is great! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t1L4ZuaVvaw

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"JM: You know your brother was an a$$hole.
SG: He was. He WAS an a$$hole! You got his number."

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JM: Your brother was an ********!
SG: He was an *******! You got his number!

This is just Simon not falling for John's plan to aggrivate him into fighting him.

Green Goblin is great! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t1L4ZuaVvaw

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Actually, Die Hard was all about a heist! Hans was just a thief!! An exceptional thief? Add murderer to it!

Being true to the movie...

"IF" Simon blew up the school, he couldn't "blow up" the gold, too. The school was never the target. It was just a ruse. AND... A couple of Simon's henchman were concerned about kids finding that brief case.

My question would be how Simon identified the school so quickly. He didn't know Zeus nor his nephews. He then had a rigged device sent to their school while he was toying with McClane and Zeus?

He may have already had the rigged device with another destination in mind but it still had to be put in place (seamlessly) while "terrorizing" McClane and Zeus.

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But Karl's up there!

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