I'm sure there are organizations that use their own internal classification systems that would have something like "Level 1" and "Level 2," but these would be for their internal use only. There are still the four basic classifications (unclassified, confidential, secret, and top secret), but maybe if he has a secret clearance and he's working on something with several parts, maybe they have a Level 1, 2, 3, and 4 or whatever. Maybe that's where he's getting that from.
What he's getting it from is Canada's security clearances. Since this is a United States Film regarding a United States Sub, what Canada calls their security levels is irrelevant. The Security Clearances on a US Sub would be United States Security Clearances.
The OP is a troll. Asking for HIGHLY classified material on an unsecure system. "CLAIMING" he has a security clearance means jack sh!t. He uses the WRONG clearance and if he did have a clearance he would have known NOT to ask. He doesn't have a need to know and this is an unsecure system. information printed here is for everyone to see, not just someone "claiming" to have a clearance.
You need to stop making excuses for a loser troll.
Nothing justifies and excuses his statements as anything other than a wannabe.
In his first post about it, he said he'd been cleared, but that he hadn't been assigned yet. It could be he's telling the truth, but doesn't know enough about what he's talking about to state it correctly.
Trust me, He would know if he was cleared.
He would also have known NOT to even ask.
That he asked, that he used the wrong terminology, demonstrates he doesn't have a fraking clue what the hell he is talking about.
And I'm not the only one to have pointed that out.
Again, Don't be making excuses for the inexcusable.
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crockett_john
11 years ago
I don't know the first thing about Canada's classification system.
Yeah, asking for classified information on a public forum is just dumb. There's no getting around that one. I don't mean to take up for the guy, but at the same time, I've known cleared people who still ask really dumb questions and say dumb things when they should know better. I'm sure you've seen some of those, too, the guy who wants to carry classified information with him without authorization and improperly packaged or the person who keeps asking dumb questions after you say, "I can't tell you that."
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CGSailor
11 years ago
I've known cleared people who still ask really dumb questions and say dumb things when they should know better. I'm sure you've seen some of those, too, the guy who wants to carry classified information with him without authorization and improperly packaged or the person who keeps asking dumb questions after you say, "I can't tell you that."
Yup. See that a lot and not just with classified materials.
Some of the most brilliant people can go through everyday life and do the stupidest things, like a brain surgeon driving off from a gas station and ripping the hose and nozzle out of the pump from where it's still stuck in his filler tank.
I didn't know the first thing about Canada's system either til I "Googled Secret Level II" like he suggested. I already knew he was still wrong and still is even after I did so. This is a US film about a US sub and Even if he was telling the truth about his having a secret Level II (Canadian) clearance (which he isn't), It still does not allow him access over a public forum for what he was asking about, or even a secure channel for all that matters.
He was just a fraking know-nothing thinks he knows everything troll.
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crockett_john
11 years ago
Hey, you know, you got me to thinking about people trying to fake it with regards to military service. That reminded me of something that I see that's really common in phonies who tell these elaborate stories.
Whenever someone is trying to tell me a fake story about military service, I've had people tell me all these crazy details about these "classified" missions they were on, but then when I identify myself as a service-member and ask where they did their training, they'll say, "Oh, I can't tell you that. That's classified." To that, I will say something like, "Oh, you can tell me about secret missions you ran in Panama and that's okay, but you can't tell me where you went to basic training? Interesting."
I even had one guy tell me how he was a POW and how he had escaped and stole a boat and made it to freedom. Then this other guy asked him about something on his jacket. I can't remember what it was, but it was an officer's warfare device (like a SWO pin or something similar) and this phony was saying he was a Navy chief. The guy asked the phony how an enlisted sailor got a SWO pin (or whatever it was). The fake chief gave this, "Well, you see, uh, you can get this thing with a..." All of a sudden, this guy started pretending to have a hard time speaking English and walked away.
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CGSailor
11 years ago
Most military phonies are good enough to pass themselves off only to those who don't have a damned clue about the military. To anyone who has served, or to anyone who lives with or deals with military people, the phonies stand out like a nuke flash on a pitch black night.
The number one fake is the fake Seal. If you're gonna fake it, why settle faking anything less than the best right? First thing to ask a Seal is what was his BUD/S class number. Every Seal will remember his class number for the rest of his life. It is NOT classified. The individuals in a BUD/S class is easily verifiable even online. Of course the Fake will tell you his records have been redacted for security reasons or some such bullsh!t. Untrue. Every seal that ever was is in the database.
Yeah, your fake Chief was utter BS if he was wearing a SWO. SWO is for OFFICERS, not enlisted. We have our own, the ESWS (pronounced "E-swass")
That is one of the other tell-tales, the BS uniforms and badges.
There are two types of fakes.
The utter BS fake wannabes that never served a day in their life.
And those who have served, even honorably and with awarded distinction, but for whatever personal reasons, decides to "spruce up" their background with a bit more than they actually did.
The first type deserves my ridicule.
The second has my utter contempt. They know better, and broke the code.
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crockett_john
11 years ago
Oh, yeah. I had a guy tell me he was a Seal and when I laughed, he wondered why it was funny. He was only in his 20s, but he was easily 300 pounds of blubber.
I used to work with a guy who I knew was a veteran, but he still felt the need to lie. Sometimes, he'd tell me a story right out of a popular movie and I'd say, "Yeah, I saw that one."
There are times when someone's military title sounds different or suggestive of something other than what they do. I had a room-mate who worked for special services (at the base marina signing out rental equipment), but some people thought the word "special" meant something important.
Or, like a time I was at a baseball game and the announcer introduced a kid as a "Navy Seal Cadet" when the kid was in a sea cadet uniform.
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