In the beginning there is a scene where an officer (James Gandolfini) is yelling at one of the seaman as they climb on the bus. im in the army and i know there are differnces between the different branches, but i would think that in any branch there is a line that isnt crossed between officer and enlisted. if there is anyone on these boards who is navy, i was just wondering if your officers really did stuff like that?
"Is your car up a pole again?"
It was Hollywood BS.
I joined the Navy to see the world, only to discover the world is 2/3 water!
I dunno. I can't speak for the Navy, but in my own experience in the Marine Air Wing, I've had many conversations with the officers and senior enlisted in my squadron. Even a few with the CO and Sergeant Major. So long as you do it respectfully, remember when to say "yes, sir/no, sir/aye, sir", officers and senior enlisted can be very approachable, just so long as you don't forget that they are still senior to you, and remember that just because you're swapping stories and jokes with them, that doesn't mean that they owe you any special consideration or favors, because then that's fraternization. I treat it as nothing more than two adults having a conversation.
But then again, such things tend to be a bit differentin the air wing. We have a slightly closer working relationship with our officers and SNCOs than over groundside.
When a loose cannon flogs a dead horse, there's the Devil to pay!
What you say is correct, however the scene in question and the actions in question for the film has to do with the officer making the enlisted in a non-official capacity do pushups in the middle if a Bus aisle.
That whole "Drop and give me twenty" crap ends with boot camp.
I joined the Navy to see the world, only to discover the world is 2/3 water!
"...That whole "Drop and give me twenty" crap ends with boot camp...."
Well they did use that, in Army Wives when the "mustang second Looey" started to make one of his troopers 'give him twenty' for not setting the safety on his loaded weapon at the range--His Platoon Sergeant had to remind him he 'was a great sergeant but was now an officer' & he needed to leave that function to him(the platoon sergeant, that is...)
I dunno about that, either. From what I've heard from my SSgts and Gunnies, even as recently as the early and mid 2000's, there was still $h!t like that going down in the Corps. And given that this movie took place ten years even before that...well...
But I'll grant that if they were still into the "drop and giveme twenty" stuff, then that sailor must have otherwise been a truly exceptional sailor, else he would not have been nearly so large as he was.
When a loose cannon flogs a dead horse, there's the Devil to pay!
i think you all are missing what i'm talking about.
"drop and give me twenty" didnt end with boot camp. at least not in army. it has ended NOW do to excessive suicides and stressed ot soldiers, but this is recent, like 2005-2007.
anyway, what im talking about is an OFFICER yelling at the top of his lungs at an enlisted person and making them do push ups. this is unheard of in the army.
"Is your car up a pole again?"
I was in the navy, I'd have told that officer to go *beep* himself!
shareLOL, Unlikely!
I was an 0-5 when I went trough Specwarfare training, and there no way I would have told the instructors to take a running jump, even thought they were enlisted scumbag pricks
So can I ask how did you make through Specwarfare training with that big nose and all the body odor? Also did you find it difficult in transitioning to having to take showers? Since you can't eat beef, is horsemeat ok? When you went to the Bars in Gaslamp did any girls ever talk to you? I mean we know you didn't get laid but would they even talk to you? Not your fault of course, you can't help being fugly or smelly.
Yet another question, sorry for bothering you but with all your experience and insight I cannot resist. How did you overcome the limitation of training only being available to O-1s to O-3s, being an O-5? Did you get a waiver?
Last question: being that your feet normally smell like cheez-its, after running in boots on the beach, how bad do your feet smell?
You're taking a dump and they call GQ do you pinch it off or finish your business?
Thank-you for all your interest, but all you've done today is demonstrated racialism in the extreme. I would rather you say thank-you, and be on your way.
This Film is not about the Army, or the Marines, but about the Navy.
And in the Navy.. that sh!t ended in boot camp.
FSK Pilot was talking Marines, you are talking Army. Neither has anything to do with my stating that the scene is Hollywood BS, because the scene is N.A.V.Y.
I joined the Navy to see the world, only to discover the world is 2/3 water!