That's funny how I haven't seen many kids watching Neon Genesis: End of Evangelion because of the torture of a child's eye and getting abused by a crazy dude but they'll let them see her getting mind-raped and locked into a coma. These are the kind of stuff that traumatized me and would traumatize kids, too. I don't know how they would be getting into this. This series is surprisingly complex, even for me.
DON'T JUDGE PEOPLE BY THEIR AGES, NOT USE COMMON SENSE, OR ASK CRITICAL QUESTIONS!
I think children can be confronted with serious issues, and even if they don't get everything, watching NGE would be a rewarding experience IMO. Honestly, I'd let my 12 year old brother watch ot if it weren't for EoE. So I'm waiting till his 15. He is also annoying me while I'm typing this. Maybe he deserves the mental trauma? >:)
Movies may corrupt children. But they also got parental guidance to show that it's not okay for them to check out this kind of violence. It may be traumatizing and they may get them into saying language or having sex and Neon Genesis has a lot of that. Funny how shows like Trigun get 13+ but not Neon Genesis in some markets.
DON'T JUDGE PEOPLE BY THEIR AGES, NOT USE COMMON SENSE, OR ASK CRITICAL QUESTIONS!
Conservative fantasy. Movies may "traumatize" only when mixed with terrible parenting, usually of the conservative variety, so even then the problem is parenting rather than any movie. For example, conservatives don't teach their children about sexuality or the human body and don't want schools or movies to do that either, so at point all that stuff they tried to protect their kids from is gonna hit those kids in one big slam. A 10-year old should have a general concept of these things but conservatives think all that stuff can wait until you're married or something. Kids in general are well equipped to deal with violent but good R rated movies such as Alien. The idea that a movie like that (or Evangelion) could "traumatize" anyone is laughable.
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It doesn't matter about the parenting. Not all movies are made for kids. Kids are supposed to be innocent, and it boggles my mind if any young kid knew about sexuality. I don't know about kids watching Alien, I haven't seen it but there are a lot of more appropriate movies out there that kids can watch. Eva is about depression and other contents that can go over kids' head and also upset them.
I hope that there is an Evangelion video game where you can beat Asuka up!
That a movie wasn't made for kids doesn't mean kids can't enjoy the hell out of it.
and it boggles my mind if any young kid knew about sexuality.
Define "young kid". There's basically no evidence that having a rough idea of these things at the age of, say, 10 causes any harm. If anything, it's beneficial. Kids should learn about sexuality before their teens so they know what's going on with their bodies.
I don't know about kids watching Alien, I haven't seen it but there are a lot of more appropriate movies out there that kids can watch.
Doesn't mean they can't watch Alien as well. The more the merrier!
Eva is about depression and other contents that can go over kids' head and also upset them.
Yes, themes in NGE are bound to fly over young kids' heads but teenagers should be able to appreciate them better.
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Okay. The TV show of Evangelion was not geared nor marketed to children. When it was originally released around 1995-1996 I was in my mid twenties. We still had video stores to go and buy VHS tapes and DVDs. Blu Ray was not out yet. The anime sections on places like Sun Coast or other retailers were not normally in front of the store for 'all to see'. The anime sections were normally fairly small compared to the rest of the genres and not 'normally' near the Disney or childrens DVDs or tapes. Anime was 'not for kids'.... ADV's opening stated that very clearly as does/did some other US distributors. The ratings were right there on the box. Most of the time '13 and up' or '14 and up' sometimes "Mature". From Ghost in the Shell, Princess Mononoke, and Vampire Hunter D, and others... from content, language, and violence... it was obvious most anime was NOT for 'kids'.
Mikko-sandt, it takes a lot to offend me, and brother, you just did. I'm conservative and my wife as well. There's nothing wrong with being conservative OR it's movement! I love anime. My daughter is loving horror and some anime (though she stuck like a broken record on that stupid Steven Universe stuff right now...) I'm slowly letting her watch some horror. She's 12 now, and I've let her see some of Alien (haven't finished it yet), Vampire Hunter D: Bloodlust (don't think she liked but we're missing seeing the ending), she loves Ranma 1/2, She's seen a little Evangelion, she LOVED Sword Art Online...and some other movies rated 'R' my wife just won't watch, since she really doesn't like horror movies. I was fine with my daughter watching more of the SAO series on Netflix by herself, but knowing how it ended I wanted to be there with here on the last episode (of well the first season... when it got a little weird).
Keeping our kids sheltered... give me a break. Conservatives ALLOW their kids to make mistakes and errors. Without making mistakes one will never learn anything. You can't grow with out a little pain. You get over it and keep going. And being bullied, sullied, and lambasted by the likes you, also we learn AS CONSERVATIVES to let things go over our heads on purpose. But I just couldn't reading your post this time. While words DO mean things, we also have had the hard truth of bearing the lashing tongues of others like yourself. And learning to ignore such false accusations and keep going and not letting it get to us (in other words... 'stick and stones may break my bones, but I have control over my emotions').
Now my wife is unfortunately a 'Helicopter Mom' and I'm not proud of that, and she's a Marilla Cuthbert personality to boot, but we are also not afraid to punish our kids with light corporeal punishment. (did I spell that right?) As we were with our parents. From the restricting Political Correctness from the Clinton era, watching anime in the mid 90's was a BREATH OF FRESH AIR! It wasn't PC, it was hilarious! It was... hand drawn and NOT American! It went beyond boundaries that other shows or cartoons could not do back during that time! Us as 'evil white conservatives' vibe I get from you, anime was an answer to great adult alternative entertainment! No I'll admit my wife barely 'tolerated' watching anime with me... when we were dating and she NEVER let on how much she hated it, but she stuck with it just to be with ME! And that says a lot about her. And she did get into Evangelion actually and maybe another show or two I was watching back then. But before you make outlandish 1 sided statements... think first.
Again I state: Neon Genesis Evangelion was not marketed to kids. Though there may have been ads in the game magazines during that time in EGM, GameFan, and what not... but the toys, and models were not cheap nor easy to obtain by any means of the imagination back then. That's why we used eBay, HLJ, BBTS, and many more websites that... aren't around anymore... unfortunately. A VHS tape only had 2 episodes on it and were around $20 - $30 EACH! And came out about 1 month or 2 months apart! So the wait seemed LONG! And the VHS cases were stock FULL of wonderful artwork. Gosh I miss that...
3rd generation American from a long line of Gottscheers... it was Drandul, dude!
Those matters are a little like a poison: we need to give them to the children little by little to establish an immunity, so they would have the ability and mental strength to resist. A lot of youth I know just don't have this immunity, and when something terrible happens, they can't deal with it.
A lot of NGE's themes are especially relevant for teenagers who are in the midst of an awkward and emotionally overwhelming transition into adulthood. It's supposed to act like a shock to the system, hammering home that life isn't going to be easy while also reassuring them that they'll be able to deal with incoming hardships.
Yes, it's violent, but I'm sure most 14yos would be able to stomach it.
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BTW, what would be a good age for my brother to watch the show? He is 12. I wanted him to wait till he's 15, which is the age I had when I watched Eva.
That's exactly when I started watch Eva. I was 12, almost 13.
Perfect time for the show, if you ask me. Sure it was extreme and very intense, but it was a situation I could rise to. It was like a coming of age thing in and of itself. Besides, I had already seen plenty of R-rated movie and worse, Eva was just more powerful because it is, well, a more powerful story.
--- Pride is not the opposite of shame, but its source. True humility is the antidote to shame.
And you make that claim by what logic? You may have been too immature for the show and it might have scared you, but I guess I was more mature than you, if you wouldn't have been ready for it at age 13.
You said this of Eva:
Eva is about depression and other contents that can go over kids' head and also upset them.
Well, gee, I suffered from depression since I was 6. Evangelion was a huge help for me in being able to understand and deal with it. Your idea of children as perfect little angels is warped and wildly inaccurate. Kids are human beings, too. They can understand complex stories, they can understand the context when you compare mindless violence with violence that has a point -- in fact a lot of the books you're taught in 7th and 8th grade are very dark and include sexuality or violence. Not to mention they watch R-rated horror movies and look at porn, as often as not. Some of them can't handle a show like Eva. I could, and I did. In fact, it was a huge help to me.
In the internet age it's become even less of an issue, most children by age 12 are watching the most hardcore forms of sex and violence available to mankind. They can go on google and find ISIS beheading videos or any sex fetish in the world. A 13 year old watching a show like Evangelion or Game of Thrones which actually gives proper context to their sex & violence, and has intelligent themes behind their stories, I 100% support that. That's material that's going to elevate them more than it's going to harm them. It's better than them seeing that same content in The Human Centipede or an S&M orgy video. Which is exactly what lots of kids are watching instead.
There's such a thing as sheltering kids too much. By age 13 you're supposed to be discovering the world. Some of my best friends come from hardcore Christian homes where they lived in proverbial lockdown. They're in their mid-20s now and they still never really developed the way kids are supposed to. They don't know how to interact with this big wide world that doesn't conform to the sensibilities of a G-rated Disney film. They flinch when someone says a minor swearword, they can't stomach TV & movies that are for adults, and they can't speak up for themselves when someone's being mean or going past their boundaries.
Inundating kids with sex & violence to inoculate them isn't the answer, either. The answer is a reasonable middle ground: trying to keep them away from mindless sex & violence but allowing them to grow and learn by seeing intelligent uses of those concepts such as in Evangelion.
--- Pride is not the opposite of shame, but its source. True humility is the antidote to shame.
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You said what was inappropriate? If it's Eva for a 13 year old, then in that case you would be wrong.
I was 16 when I watched the show you stupid *beep*
Yes, I know, which is why I said "if you wouldn't have been ready for it at age 13." If you weren't ready for it at 16 then it stands to reason that you weren't ready at 13. If I thought you were 13 when you watched it, obviously I would have said "if you WEREN'T ready" not "if you wouldn't have been ready."
--- Pride is not the opposite of shame, but its source. True humility is the antidote to shame.
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It was appropriate for me at that age, I was very close to age 13. That's the age-range that the main characters are in, it helps you to relate to them. And it's a lot less creepy being attracted to them when I was watching the show compared to all the adults who watch it! ;)
--- Pride is not the opposite of shame, but its source. True humility is the antidote to shame.