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Doesn't make sense


Slight Spoilers.
When the hippie fella brings the news of Malky's death to Gary Oldman, how on earth does he know what Leon told Malky before killing him? Everyone died there and no one could deliver his words...

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Possible explanation:Just because we didn't see the witness doesn't mean that there was not someone observing from behind a wall, e.g. the card game in Lock, Stock and Two Smoking Barrels. This hit was on one side's home turf rather than in a hotel room or private apartment.

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That's very weak.
Leon's efficiency doesn't make this possible.
Explanation not accepted .

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Leon exceeded his contract this time around. It never is that he is so good that no one knows who did it, but rather that the people who know have no reason to expose him either because they hired him or because they were afraid of repercussions from the criminal parties responsible if they talked. There was an understood status quo, safety in silence.

When he took revenge on Malky for Mathilda, in addition to those he was supposed to kill, he upset the process. Now Stansfield's crew were trying to find who did it and the same people normally afraid to talk were now afraid not to. there was no status quo until he and any confederate messing with the order of things was punished.

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That doesn't answer my question.
In case you don't recall the scene, Leon kills Malky with a few other guys while they have a secret meeting talking business. They aren't in a place where people could be around.
Also there is a reason no one knew how Leon looked. He did the job well enough no one could spot him. There are number of scenes in the film that Leon hears people from the next room. He is a great Hitman.
It seems that this is a plot-hole. And a pretty big one considering the news that Leon might be coming for the girl, is the only reason Oldman doesn't kill Mathilda in the bathroom.

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You are building personal assumptions into certainties (e.g. no possible witness, no possible unseen vantage points behind connecting walls or side rooms, both sides of the meeting were incapable of trickery) out of things that Besson doesn't show and then calling it a plot hole.

I spent one long day with secret service personnel, in preparation for a presidential visit, in a building I knew intimately and still discovered with them isolated closets and side rooms, roof spaces, and utility shafts. Your assumptions about knowing every potential hiding place from what Besson showed is breathtaking.

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I could say the same for you. We aren't talking about a presidents security. We are talking about a crappy meeting place.
It isn't personal assumption that Leon was really efficient and highly unlikely to leave someone alive as it would risk Mathilda's life. Leon's efficiency is shown in the film in various occasions.

It is a very cheap plot device either way. Either Leon was dumb this one time, or it was a screenplay error. Either way, it's bad writing.

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As we see Leon's efficiency through out the film,we also see something else taking place. The more time Leon spends with Mathilda, the more vulnerable he becomes. In previous scenes to this one, we see his vulnerable side, slowly begin to surface and Mathilda is becoming the most important thing in his life. Her constant distraction, causes his efficiency to falter and making decisions becomes more difficult.
As for the plot holes in this film, there are a few that may appear obvious at first, but a second look can often bring things more clearly into view. What we don't see, can be just as powerful as what is shown on the screen. Sometimes we have to use our imagination, which Besson relies on through out the film. How Willie Blood (Hippie Fella) got his information is not critical to the story, the fact that he got it is really all we need to know. Either way, it is obvious that Reality is not an essential component in this film. I believe this is Besson's way of allowing the viewer to have their own interpretations of a scene, which makes for interesting discussions like this one.
I love the way Besson uses minimal dialogue and the construction of scenes to tell his story between Leon and Mathilda.

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Dude, you're on the ball. Read some of my threads pointing out some of the more ridiculous aspects of this movie. Don't expect logical replies from some of the fans of this movie. They'll attack you when they can't answer your valid questions. Classic ad hominem.

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It is obvious( at least in your mind) that you are far more intelligent than the rest of us. So for those of us that are less fortunate than you, can you please explain how you manage to spill so much stupidity with only a few words.

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He left a chinaman as a witnesses.

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