What a Master-Slave relationship really is...

Dear GOD...you just can't help yourself can you. You must really need that blanket of ignorance you keep covering yourself with.

"You say that the only good D/s relationship is one where the love involved would still exist unchanged should the D/s not be involved.
My rebuttal to that involves people I know who are, or have been, in relationships in D/s where love was not the goal."

I repeat...

"My rebuttal to that involves people I know who are, or have been, in relationships in D/s where love was not the goal."

Once more...

"where love was not the goal."

For the umpteenth time, I suggest you ACTUALLY read my posts, or yours for that matter.

You are not speaking of anything ive originally addressed, in any way.

I repeat once *beep* more…

“But you, this isn’t directed at, I direct this question at those who believe they are in a relationship of love and understanding.”

That’s great for those in long term relationship that have no connection to love or understanding. Good for them, however (as for some reason you, despite claiming you’ve “read it”, still have yet to read my original post, I must again repeat)…

“If you, the "Slave", were to stop being a "Slave", would your "Master" still love and understand you?

To "Masters", the same.

I do not care if you THINK it, I only care if you KNOW it.

If the answer is no, then you do not have a relationship, and are the perfect example of someone just pathetic and weak who needs justification and comfort for being a way you hate.”

What you're fallaciously trying to argue now is a point I not only did not bring up in the context of this debate, but have now repeatedly said that is not what I have been speaking of. And is in fact a completely different debate even regarding relationships like this.

So if all you can do, after soo many posts of intentionally ignoring the debate and simply saying you are correct and that’s that, is now attempt to debate on a strawman...then im afraid the only person here who is ignorant and cannot handle the failure of their argument is you.

So please, pleeease...im waiting on this apparently reply and rebuttal of my original post. Which still stands, strongly and unwaveringly, and you’ve still yet to present even a remotely defendable standpoint.

You are exactly the type of person I spoke of in my original post. You claim all this experience and knowledge (you’ve yet to present this knowledge to defend your claims...and worst of all actually think your "experience" counts for anything on an internet debate, let alone in the face of judgements I stated in the original post) and yet cannot defend what should be a simple debate. In fact, what’s truly sad, is that all you’ve been able to present is a clear view that YOU yourself have been in one of the relationships ive originally described, and believe it was "really a relationship". opposed to simply being the one way (obviously not your way) satisfaction for another.

Either debate, or accept reality. Because doing neither is STILL not winning you anything.

So stop with the strawmans, the arguments where you fail to even address the debate and simply stand by the point (still undefended) that you're right, and for the love of the Gods...stop with this utter pathetic attempt at "ive lived this and have experience in these matters". It’s a fallacy and still has no bearing on anything...when will you people learn that this is the internet, claiming to be a brain surgeon means nothing.

So, instead of these sad attempts, actually debate. Because quite frankly, it’s really not that hard.

Mmmkay?