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Was the store clerk a pervert?


Was the store clerk a pervert when he caught Troy shoplifting? I thought he was cause I didn't like how he patted Troy's butt while he told her not to come back to the store unless if she had money.

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No he was no perv, he was just swatting her outside.

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I don't know. The way he was acting to Troy's Spanish friend when they came on the store seems a little suspect to me.

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Really? i thought it was just how close the community was, the boundaries back then were different...in some ways. I don't think they meant to imply anything but I haven't seen the movie in a while, I'll need to watch again...

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I just saw this on BET last night, and yes, the clerk did seem a little suspect by todays standard. First he asked for a kiss on the cheek and when the girl said no, he threated to tell her mother.
Then as he kicked troy out the store he swatted her butt, but of course this is me looking at this with 2008 eyes.
If the movies was set in the 70's or 80's it was most likely nothing.

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For real or are you just trying to be funny??

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he/she was being funny. there are no extra features on the dvd.

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I think Spike Lee was trying to show how kids deal with all kinds of *beep* every day, from getting beat up by older kids to having pervy adults come up on them -- and how kids are strong, smart, and resilient, like the girl who won't kiss the guys and when he says he's tell her mother defiantly says "go AHEAD!" Or how Troy smshes the glue-huffer over the head and tells him to get out of the neighborhood.

So, yes, I think he's implying the grocer might be a little creepy re: pretty little girls.

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it's like Kelea7 said. things were different back then. you have to remember this movie was set in the early 70s, not the 2000s where every little thing is over analyzed.

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We'd have to ask Spike.

But I grew up then. I'd be exactly Troy's age. And as kids (just like in the movie, us kids went around together, usually without parents around until we went home for dinner) we knew there were always a few creepy predatory adults around. Maybe it was the music teacher. Maybe it was some guy who worked at the stationary store. Maybe it was somebody's cousin who made obscene phonecalls to the payphone and talked to little girls. But most of us knew to steer away from them -- sometimes acting exactly as the girl did to the grocer. Sort of making fun of them. We'd make jokes about Pervy Mr So-and-So and tease each other about it. I've talked to people my age I grew up with about that and we're amazed we never said anything to teachers or parents or other adults...at the same time, it was just something you had to work around.

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I thought it was kind of weird how he was almost demanding that that little girl give him a kiss on the cheek. She handled it well though when he threatened to tell her mother. She answered, "Tell her." That was so funny.
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I never thought twice about that scene. I thought the clerk was just being playful with Troy's friend when he asked her for a kiss on the cheek.

There was nothing sexual about the swat either. He was basically telling her to get out and don't come back until she had money.

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Interesting thought. I don't know about you, but I grew up in the '70s, and it was typical for adults--close acquaintances or even strangers--to discipline other people's children. That's how I saw the shop keeper's swatting gesture, since Troy was trying to shoplift.

As for the other comments about his asking the other girl for a kiss, back then, men did things like that all the time. I thought it was indicative of the relationship he had with her family. Communities used to stick together; people weren't alienated from their neighbors, so it wouldn't have been a big deal for a relative or family friend to ask for a kiss. Not that he couldn't have been pervy, too!



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This is an old thread but the store clerk was definitely a pervert. When he grabbed her,the little girl kept saying, "dejame! dejame!" which is spanish for "leave me alone!" or "let go of me". Then when he tried to kiss her and he said "I will tell your mother" and she said "tell her". She challenged him to tell her mother because he knew what he was doing was inappropriate and her mother would not approve. Just because it was the 70s, does not mean perverts did not exist.

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Just because it was the 70s, does not mean perverts did not exist.





Exactly. Someone mentioned how kids back then had to steer clear of pervs as if the pervs had a right to do what they were doing. So many kids' lives have been destroyed by men like that. And no, that man had no business demanding a kiss from her, I don't care how "tight" their families were.







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I think a real pervert would be the last one to act like a pervert in a public place.

First, the pat in the butt was just a way to push her outside, so she can get the hell out of there, since what she did was serious in his mind, she deserved to be treated like that, he'd have done the same to a boy and the movie insisted on showing that she was still looking like a child, not even a pre-teen, which would have made the gesture more suspicious.

For the other one, it's more ambiguous. I still don't think he was a pervert but it was an awkward way to treat her like the 'grown-up' girl she wanted to look like, when she shoplifts, she has a sort a flirtatious smile as if she knew she could almost get away with it even if he suspected something, she enjoyed playing the pretty girl card and he was just pushing that little game a bit too far. And yes, it's disturbing from today's standards.

Still, it's incredible how everything is judged now on a binary basis, either something is black or white, while there are many layers in people's behaviour, you can't just label someone as a pervert because of one look or a gesture without taking the context into consideration, otherwise, anyone can become guilty on suspicion.

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As a kid in the 70's neighborhoods were close knit. When i would get in trouble somewhere someone would yell or swat my behind then tell my parents so they could yell and swat my behind. People just looked after each other then. it literally took a neighborhood to raise a child in those days. As far as the clerk being a perv. He knew her mother, thus why he threatened to tell her. He was either a close family friend or could've been a relative. I know about pervs in the 70's.. they weren't as blatant and out in the open with their pervness.. If you ran into one of them, you best believe the only way he would mention your mama would be to not tell her anything!


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