Refer to sitcom: was ellen always gay in all seasons?
I don't remember the first season too much, but I heard that the first season ellen morgan was straight? Have no clue but if anyone knows that would be awesome.
sharei'm sure Ellen Morgan had always been gay but she didn't realize it until season 4 the season she came out. but no 1st-3rd season she dated men.
~~Jessica~~
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yep thats sooooooooo true! i also think she looks alot younger now that shes older other then vise versa. am i the only one who sees that???/ anyone else agree.
~~Jessica~~
The character dated men during seasons 1 & 2. During season 3 she was completely dateless and during season 4 that fact was commented on by more characters than just her mother being unhappy about Ellen not having a man, like in the first seasons.
I don't have an answer to the original thread's question, just wanted to point out that it was ridiculously weird during season 3, that the minor characters had bigger, more interesting dating storylines than the main character.
I don't understand that concept. If people are born gay, how can they live a portion of their lives not knowing that they're gay?
shareBecause the whole world is telling them every day that they should be straight, and up until about 15 years ago, there were no depictions of gay relationships in the media, so until people would stumble into it, most gay people simply had no idea why they didn't seem to have "normal" feelings for the opposite sex. Not to mention, the very occasional depiction of a gay person in the media before the 1970s (and many thereafter) showed them as mentally ill, and the happy resolution to the show was often a straight relationship. How is someone who knows she (or he) isn't mentally ill supposed to identify with the "sick" gay people in things like They Only Kill Their Masters?
There were gay characters before Ellen, who were not negative: there was Jody on Soap, whose weirdness was essentially normal, because he was weird and gay among many straight and sometimes weirder people, which is probably why the show got away with it; there was also a single episode of The Mary Tyler Moore Show, and the occasional "Archie is homophobic, too," bit on All in the Family, but no gay love stories, really, until Ellen, in 1997. There were also movies, like Desert Hearts, or Lianna, but they were independent films, not major studio pictures, or primetime TV shows.
And, then, there is the fact that sex is still sex. A lot of gay people are perfectly capable of an opposite sex hook-up-- your favorite flavor of ice cream might be chocolate, but butter pecan is still pretty good-- but being gay is about who you fall in love with. Also, there are people who could probably fairly be called "bisexual," but really are closer to one end of a continuum, or the other. People who are closer to the gay end may not be really happy in a long-term straight relationship, even though they may have dated straight people, and enjoyed it.
Even if you are gay, you still have to know it exists: think about being a really small child, three or four, with no awareness of sexuality, and maybe even still unaware of "where babies come from." You might be straight, but you don't know it yet, because you don't even know about sex yet.
I'm guessing you are pretty young, and it's hard for you to imaging a world where someone could reach young adulthood (say, 18), and have never heard the word "homosexual," but that was America before about 1968.