I loved this movie, but there's a hole big enough for me to drive a truck through, so naturally I must point it out. Okay, Ouisa is talking on the phone to Paul, and he agrees to turn himself in to the police, on the condition that Ouisa hand-deliver him, to ensure his proper treatment. As we all know, traffic slowed down her attempt to get to Paul, and she only arrived in time to see Paul get carted away. So here's my big question: why, oh WHY, didn't Paul just wait until Ouisa got there before calling the police? I wonder if they handles this differently in the play version.
I've noticed a couple of post asking why Paul didn't call Ouisa with his 'one phone call'. Ever thought that maybe he didn't get that one phone call?? People get 'lost' in the jail system all the time. The fact that Paul got lost in the system is a statement on what it's like being a poor Black man in jail in New York. Happens all the time
I think Flan actually called the detective that was working on the case before they left the house. I'm pretty sure that's mentioned right before they show up at the theater.
As far as to why they couldn't find him I think it was an extension of his enigmatic nature. He came into people's lives for a while and then disappeared. I also think it underscores something Ouisa says during the course of the movie; something to the effect of knowing the right 6 people.
On a side note I found it really interesting when they were trying to get any information on anything. They went to the bookstore and called around and such. This was 1993, although I'm not sure when the story was set, and I found myself constantly thinking "why aren't they using the internet for this search." Duh.
And there's only one cell phone in the entire movie. When Ian McKellen is walking through the airport.
The times were different then but this movie didn't seem dated to me at all.
I have a flaw too.....When Stockard Channing and Donald Sutherland arrive at the arrest, WIll Smith is put into a car, and they drive off. Why didn't the couple just follow the car?
First of all, they said they arrested him for another crime, which was why the couple couldn't find him, they had him under a different name. And as for why they didn't follow the police station, she hadn't realized they arrested him for another crime or whatever, and they had something they needed to go to, an important dinner and drinks before...Japanese and whatnot...well, thats what i thought.
I'm pretty sure dude-146 was just sarcastically alluding to the fact that the supposed "HUUUUUUUGE FLAW" was not so big that we should all just take back our positive opinions on this movie and throw them away...
Back to the topic at hand, I just watched this movie, got done about half an hour ago, and I'm nearly positive that Flan said he had called the police before leaving the house. It was a whirlwind moment, so it may have been hard to catch, but if you are waiting for it, you'll hear it.
As for one comment on why Ouisa didn't just follow the policemen, they are in New York City, the traffic was terrible, and Flan had that huge business meeting.
Yes. But Flan and Ouisa Kittridge don't get down to Sixth Ave and 4th St. with any regularity, I promise you. If you know Manhattan, especially circa 1990 (when the play opened), then you know precisely what I mean.
It is clear that Flan calls the police, and one can only surmise that he does so out of fear that Paul won't end up waiting for them to arrive. He's also less inclined to charity than Ouisa, as is repeatedly demonstrated, and possibly afraid of being alone with Paul. The part I find more confusing is that he clearly called the detective they've been working with, and that detective isn't able to help them again. I mean ... if he was transferred (as the desk sergeant indicates), he'd still be in the system somewhere, and a woman of Ouisa's doggedness should be able to find him and at least find out to whom he referred the arrest, opening up some kind of channel for research.
I regard this as a minor matter, however. I won't even describe it as a flaw, since it's possible she found the detective, he wasn't as helpful as I assume, and they just don't bother to mention that, since it's ultimately irrelevant.
In a way, it's interesting to me that this discussion even pops up. It's a discussion of plot, rather than purpose, and moreover, it discusses the very ending of the story, which we are meant to understand as not the last thing that happens, but rather the last thing we're told about. It's not the end of the story; it's just where they stopped telling it. Let's imagine, for a moment, that all our advice on how to find Paul is followed by Ouisa, just the day after the film wraps. Does that change the experience she's so fiercely determined to honor? No. Was it Ibsen who described drama as not a self-contained slice of life, but rather a glimpse through a keyhole, wherein we see a slice-shaped fraction, but the life goes on in each direction, unknown to us? Either Ibsen or Chekhov; I forget. What Guare wants us to focus on, I think, is not how Ouisa could have located Paul, but instead, what she learned from knowing him.
I was lucky to see the play before I saw the film. I'm not sure if that's why I love the film so much, but I know it didn't hurt. Now, if only I'd been privileged to see Stockard Channing in the original production...
...and moreover, it discusses the very ending of the story, which we are meant to understand as not the last thing that happens, but rather the last thing we're told about. It's not the end of the story; it's just where they stopped telling it.
I agree.
For one thing, I think that Paul was responsible for the fact that Ouisa couldnt find him. I mean how hard would it have been to find Paul for someone who has as many contacts as her? All else being equal, some junior oik at the DA's office or NYPD would have been instructed to go through every arrest record for that area; and in return his/her boss would have got a posh dinner invitation. However, Paul is just as good at the schmooze as she is. He's spun his captors a good enough tale, and they've fallen for it, and kept his whereabouts hidden from Ouisa.
For another thing, as Ouisa realises when she looks in the flower shop, Paul isnt finished with her. Later on - in a few weeks, or a few months - he'll contact her again with a new angle. Probably he'll be pulling on her heart strings 'coz she didnt get to the meeting place on time.
She seemed to be lookin' forward to hearing from him again.
My interpretation of this scene is that Paul has just escaped the scene of a crime he's perpetrated... maybe an assault, murder, rape, robbery. He calls Ouisa in a last fit of desperation, hoping he can hide out over at the Kittredge's place to avoid arrest.
Read the script, the conversation is like a desperate fantasy Paul is having as he awaits impending doom.
Paul never called the police. He was either tracked down and apprehended for whatever crime he'd recently committed, or picked up due to Flan's call. And it's not clear which jurisdiction arrested him - city, county, or state police. Which is one reason they can't find him... combined with not knowing his real name.
I always assumed that he was spotted by the police before arriving at the police station...there was a warrant out on him, so police units probably had a description handy. They probably caught him standing at the spot where he was suppsoed to meet Oiusa and he only got caught because Ouisa was late meeting him.