i dont know if anyone has noticed this but at the end while mary was telling the last few words.. "the garden is now open, awake and alive" there was a girl/woman at the pond and then she walked away..she had black hair instead of mary's brunette hair.. who was that? @_@
shareI presume it was Mary as an adult. I didn't think the hair color was that much different.
shareI think the girl was Mary in her late teens. You can see her hand was not a hand of a child.
shareDamn but did you see how fast she walked out of that garden? That was fast!
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I've never even noticed this part. I will have to go back and re-watch it. Perhaps it is supposed to be Mary's mother or aunt (I don't want to say her ghost, but I am not sure how to word it)?
shareYeah I do think it is Colin's mother she has come back to remember or something like that I dont think she was a ghost just a memory of her before she died.
share I just now came to this forum just because I noticed this lady at the end, and wanted to ask. I see the topic's already been brought up.
However many times I'd watched this movie, before, I'd always assumed it was Kate Maberly as Mary, but this last time, just now, I noticed that it really didn't look like her. Where we see her walking away, we don't see much detail, but she appears to be an adult, and possibly pregnant.
I think I agree with those who've suggested that this is Colin's mother. I think perhaps the visual here is intended as a flashback. It's Kate Maberly's voice doing the narration here, but I think we are being shown Lilias Craven, 10+ years ago, enjoying her garden not long before her unfortunate death.
LOL! I thought the same exact thing. She musta ran when the camera wasn't on her then walked slowly again when it was.
shareI got my own copy of this movie shortly after seeing this thread, so I made it a point to check. The hairstyle would suggest that it's Lilias.
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The Director Ms. Holland really intend not to show the face of the girl so you got to think who it was. If you thought it was Mary as an adult, OR it was the Colin's Mother Mrs. Craven. Either way you're correct!
shareActually I remember an alternate ending when i was watching this on disney, the woman in the end is mary but as an adult and the movie continues to show her sitting when a grown collin walks in, he tells her dickons died in a war and then he said he intended to marry her.
I wonder if its on the dvd? I only have the original tape
Are you sure it was this movie? why on earth would anyone add a rather crappy and unhappy ending to the movie.
The chance of Mary marrying Dickon are very small indeed. Unfortunately, class stood between them. Dickon was of servant class. Mary was of an aristocratic family. Her Uncle was Lord Craven. Colin would one day be Lord Craven. Her marriage to Dickon would be simply out of the question, regardless of how it might seem. Lord Craven would not have permitted it.
There is a very powerful movie on this theme- "The Go Between". To our modern way of thinking there is no apparent reason why the lovers in this film should not marry. But class stands in their way.
In the case of Mary and Colin, it would have been acceptable for them to marry, as cousins. In the book, their mothers are NOT identical twins, as they appear to be in the movie. If the mothers were identical, then the marriage of their children would be more problematic.
"great minds think differently"
Actually back then marrying cousins was acceptable. Have you ever read pride and prejudice? In it, the main character was proposed to by her cousin, and Mr. Darcy and his cousin were supposed to get married.
shareThere's a hundred year gap between the setting of Pride and Prejudice and The Secret Garden, if you look at more comtemporary literature, such as The Forsyte Saga, there is some question about cousins marrying, not as big a taboo as now, but already a little less socially acceptable. My interpretation of teh book, did not imply any feeling taht Lord Craven would have restricted Mary in her choice of husband. Of course, it's entirely possible that she wouldn't have wanted to marry either of them...
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Mr.Collins is cousin to Mr. Bennett, not to his daughters. This distances their relationship to him, making the match between Elizabeth & Mr. Collins more acceptable in a familial light, though no other.
shareI remember that too, but I thought it was from a version of Secret Garden several years before this one was made. There was a version made that did have that ending to it.
shareThat was the ending of the 1986 version of the Secret Garden with Jenny James as Mary.
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"House. My room. Can't walk. My father! My medal! Father, don't!"
actually thats not a different ending thats a different version with the kid from neverending story who played bastian, in it. they made more than one version
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The 1987 version. Have a look at 1.34 onwards.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1nL03ifW54Q
Actually I remember an alternate ending when i was watching this on disney [sic], the woman in the end is mary but as an adult and the movie continues to show her sitting when a grown collin [sic] walks in, he tells her dickons died in a war and then he said he intended to marry her.
I wonder if its on the dvd? I only have the original tape
I had always wondered the same thing. At first i thought it was a grown Mary but the last time i watched it, i realized it was Colins mom from the hair and dress. i thought prehaps it was a symbolic scence like she can finally rest or enjoy the garden moment with everything fine with her family and the garden alive again. But that was my take. i think it suppose to be up to watcher as to what they interpret but i would have to say its not suppose to be Mary.
shareThis is in response to comershifaw I believe. I saw that scene in high school, but it was from a different version of the movie, and I don't believe Mary and Colin were related in that one. Someone else said the cousins' marriage would be problematic because the mothers were identical twins, and I wanted to defend them in saying I don't think they meant socially, because many cousins were married then. Identical twins share the same DNA, so their half of their children's DNA would be the same. This means that there would likely be mutation in Colin and Mary's children, moreso than if their mothers' were not identical twins.
shareMy take on it is that it's Mary when she's older and she now looks just like Lilias Craven since she was supposed to be a dead ringer for her dead mother and aunt.
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"House. My room. Can't walk. My father! My medal! Father, don't!"
I thought it was too, and that's plausible, because she was a dead ringer for her mother and aunt. However, seeing how in the credits there's no "Adult Mary" as there would have been, even if it was a non-speaking role, I must say that it was Lilias.
Dear me! What is that unpleasant aroma? I fear the sewer may have backed up during the night.
I agree with the theory that it's the spirit of Colin's mother, leaving the garden because her soul is at peace. The ten years since she died were clearly very tumultuous for Lord Craven and his son, so it'd be pretty safe to assume that his wife's spirit was unhappy and restless as well. Now that Mary has brought the garden back to life and restored happiness in the family, Lilias can "leave" the garden, symbolically speaking. It's a nice way to tie up all the subtle fantasy elements of the film (the robin, the wind blowing around the garden wall, the kids "calling" Lord Craven home, etc). Now that I think about it, maybe all the previous magical parts were the work of her spirit as well.
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