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Do you agree with the trial outcome?


Specifically on the award. $100K for lost wages. Another $100K for something.. and $4M for anguish?

I kept thinking... isn't $100K for lost wages way too low???

Show me the holes!

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Hey Android_movie,

Damages for lost wages must be based on a calculation of expected lost wages over some period of time. In Andrew's case, he was expected to die soon, and that would limit the total of his lost wages because of the short time factor. Andrew cannot expect to be paid for wages twenty years into the future since he had no expectation he would be able to practice as an attorney due to his impending death. There was another smaller award made, but I forget the reason for that award. The big award was made for punitive damages and was nearly five million dollars. Punitive damages can be anything a jury thinks is warranted, and in this case, the jury obviously considered the law firm deliberately lied about Andrew (which is also perjury) and deserved to be punished with the idea of discouraging such behavior in the future.

Of course such jury verdicts are frequently appealed, and a reduced settlement is reached before the appeals process is concluded. In any case, the law firm did lose the case, and it certainly was a win for Andrew.

Do I agree with it? Sure do. I do not mind the idea that a business should be able to exclude people they do not think fit in with what they want their business to be. However, I absolutely hate the idea that an employer is able to abuse their power by fabricating a completely phony situation that will ruin a person's life. That, to me, is what punitive damages is all about.

Best wishes,
Dave Wile


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A fine explanation, David Wile.

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I agree with the OP that the outcome was incorrect. 4 million was way too much. Have them give him a sympathy card and maybe a 100.00 gift card to a restaurant of his choice and call it even. Of course, an employer should be able to let you go on a whim at any moment so the entire case was BS.

Edit: Of course, if the firm was smart... they would appeal until Andrew was gone. Often an affluent firm can simply wait out any decision and let appeals tie up the court for years until the parties settle, the other firm goes out of business, or the parties dismiss their cases. Smart money says that would have occurred in this case quite easily.


"How's the steak?" "It was poisoned (argh)...and a little rare" (collapses).

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It should have been $0 since they didn't know he had AIDS (basketball scene) and apparently DID fire him for incompetence after all.

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Apparently the point of that scene was lost on you

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It prob would have taken a while because the firm would have appealed the hell out of it for years until Beckett's side bow down but I doubt that would have happened.

One of the cases that this movie was based on, the Geoffry Bowers case of 1987, happened the same way. Bowers died a lot quicker than Andrew did (he didn't make 2 months into the trial,) the trial took 39 days but it got spread into years. Bowers won and the law firm appealed and it took 6 years for a judge to finally rule again for Bowers but yet the firm appealed again. Finally 2 years later they reached a settlement with the family (they could never tell what was in it due to confidentiality.) Bowers only got $500,000 in damages + the back pay he was owed in the rulings by the court but in the latter deal they can't say what they got. They also sued Tri Star over this movie due to the similarities of the story.

I agree with the ruling but the money was way too high and probably would have dropped. 1-1.5 million would have been perfect.

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