A Sting?


A poster on another message thread said he thought it was unlikely that Flower and Stone's game would have improved so dramatically in just a few weeks, expert tuition or not. But the way it struck me in the film (I haven't read the book - perhaps it's clarified there?) is that the two old men were already expert players, conducting a sting operation. They go to Atlantic City, lose a lot of money deliberately to a greedy card sharp, and lure him back to their house a few weeks later (where he'll be expecting to make another killing), then when he lets his guard down they start playing properly and clean him out. A couple of things made me think this: first, when showing Pozzi and Nashe around the City of the World, they made a couple of heavy hints about wondering who they were going to get to build their wall, and exchanged knowing glances, implying they already had the plan in mind (even though this was before the game had begun). Second, the fact that for the first hour of the game they were playing just as badly as in the Atlantic City game, then turned things around at will just when Pozzi began to overreach himself and made a huge bet. Pozzi blamed Nashe for going away and taking his "luck" with him, but it seemed pretty clear to me the two old men had only been letting him win for precisely as long as they wanted to.

Why would they do it? They clearly don't need the money. I assume it was just a case of a couple of bored rich sadists wanting some entertainment and deciding they could get it by making somebody suffer (hence also later the sudden presentation of the ludicrously inflated food bill, just at the point where Pozzi and Nashe seemed about to regain their freedom, and consequently when it would have the maximum crushing impact on their morale).

Anyway, that's how it struck me - did anyone else see it that way?

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Touche Salesman,

Totally Agree with you there, you make a very fine point!

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Absolutely. I don't know about Nashe and Pozzi but I was livid about the food bill. I thought, "You gits! That wasn't the bloddy deal and you know it!" Even though I found it odd that Nashe and Pozzi were supposed to be working to pay off a debt, they were told they could have anything they wanted, the old guys didn't mention anything about them having to pay for this stuff!!!

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I want to know who in the hell beat Pozzi to near death......or death? I'm thinking was it the grounds keeper?

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"I want to know who in the hell beat Pozzi to near death......or death? I'm thinking was it the grounds keeper?"

Yes, and/or his son. You'll recall that the first time Pozzi and Nashe reconnoitred the perimeter fence, they saw a pick-up truck go by on the road with a young boy in the back who made a distinctive gesture. Later, Nashe is introduced to Calvin's grandson, and when he sees the young boy make the same distinctive gesture he realizes it was him (and presumably Calvin's son) in the pick-up, and that they drive along that road often. The look on Nashe's face tells you that what he's figured out is that Pozzi thumbed for a ride on the road as soon as he got under the fence, and by bad luck happened to get picked up by Calvin's son in the pick-up, probably blabbed about what had happened (not realizing who the driver was) and, as a result, was taken straight back inside the estate by force and given a beating, probably (they thought) to death, then dumped outside Nashe's caravan as a warning. Only when Nashe finds him still alive do Calvin and son have to go through the charade of taking Pozzi to hospital -- for them a slight, but only slight, complication, since Pozzi clearly hadn't been able to communicate with Nashe to tell him who his attackers were.

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Good analysis. Totally agree.

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I haven't read the book and I completely thought it was a sting and that they were not very nice people. I think Joel Grey is very good at playing bad guys. His characters were also involved in the death of Buffy the Vampire Slayer at the end of Season 5 (okay, she got resurrected, but still!!!!!) and JR Ewing ...

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