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This film was never re-broadcast over certain channels because..



...reportedly some womens groups were furious over it.
http://movies.nytimes.com/movie/412676/Men-Don-t-Tell/overview
Ummm, WHY were they angry?! I'm a woman, and definitely believe in equal rights for women!!!
But I'd never be angry at a film about domestic violence towards men!
What, do these women think it only happens to women my God!

Yes I'm sure it doesn't happen as often as it does to women...no argument THERE! And no argument that men can usually fight back or escape easier than women can!
But to be angry over a film like this, why?!!! That in itself is most unfair and even borders on sexist...the very thing womens groups are supposed to be against!

Anyone agree?


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The womens groups who were against this film clearly just want the attention and resent anything that undermines their malcontent feminine superiority ideals. Not all are like that - Just the extremists who, like any group, play the victims and loudly demand reparations.

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Women can do just as much damage as men - I see it in most martial arts schools and been on the receiving end of some of it. Society is what teaches women to be physically weak and men to be emotionally constrained.




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I so agree.

Just watched this movie for the first time today.

I didn't know about the 'uproar' when it came out until reading the OP's post.

Incredible!

Violence is violence -- it's never good to beat on someone, and, yes, women are just as capable as men of being physically violent.

This is not a 'just my particular group' type of issue.

Makes me suspect the people who would lodge such a complaint and makes me doubt their credibility and their sincerity when discussing such issues.

I remember all the jokes that were going around when J.W. Bobbit had part of his 'member' cut off and thrown away by his wife. I must admit that I fell for a few of those jokes myself, but I was young and immature then.

If a woman had had a piece of her genitalia cut off and thrown away in such a manner -- heck, even if it had been her little finger -- the media and others' responses would have been so diametrically different.

And, there is something very, very wrong about that, IMHO.



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This sort of thing goes on all the time. People of both sexes (traditionalists and feminists alike) tend to be less sympathetic to males under any circumstances. The assumption is that men are not victimized by violence, or if the violence cannot be denied, it's considered humorous or justified (just as people think men being raped in prison is funny or justified- after all, they're criminals and they need to "man up").

The executives who have decided to not re-air this film (probably predominately male themselves) just decided it wasn't worth the hassle of incurring the wrath of feminist groups. This is not going to change as long as men refuse to speak in their own defense and until they refuse to be shamed into silence.

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Great post, and so agree with your comments :)









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I look at it as a form of censorship and blacklisting. Lifetime used to show "Men Don't Tell" frequently. I've seen a list of films on the LMN site and it isn't even mentioned. There should be more such projects dealing with spousal abuse from a male standpoint.

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Considering Lifetime is known for made for TV films of the "men=bad, women=good" variety, the fact that "women's groups" have threatened broadcasters that broadcast this film makes me wonder what these "women's groups" are. Is the group Valerie Solanas started, The Society for Cutting Up Men (SCUM) still in existence?

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I'm glad I caught this on TV on a rerun. This is still an important matter to touch up on even if it is controversial.

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It's not a surprise.

By the early-'90s, the feminist movement had been bastardized (pardon the pun) from being the constructive entity it had originally been to becoming a "there are no bad women, at all" movement. One that literally argued angrily that no woman has ever lied or been guilty of anything ever, and no man has ever been innocent of anything. Ever.

"Male" is the root of "malevolent."

And if any woman had ever done anything legitimately wrong (let alone abusive or evil) at any time, it was just a result of patriarchal culture oppressing her, not her own lack of character as an individual.

No woman was ever truly culpable. Ever.

The rhetoric got this bad by 1993 when this TV movie was made. And Judith Light stated that the feminist movement saw the film as "anti-woman" (because it wasn't 100% complimentary towards all women).

That's regrettable, because while that attitude didn't hurt men per se, it inevitably had a destructive effect on feminism itself --- at least, long term.

Because the "men=bad/women=good" dynamic is an obvious lie. And while lies can energize one's group short-term because lies flood the blood stream with adrenaline, in the long run, the healthier people you'd ideally want in your movement start wandering away from it. And then, irresponsible people (who are just looking for a personal platform from which they cannot be argued) move to the center of that movement and exacerbate the hyperbolic dialogue all the more, damaging the movement further. (And then, once that happpens, claim a wave of "anti-feminism" is sweeping the culture and the media).

In fact, it seems to be an unavoidable stage all successful social movements go through. It's a kind of growing pains for a movement: once it attains a certain cultural saturation, the movement starts looking around for new things to posture about, which always results in a kind of rigidly simplistic reverse-bigotry (within the movement, at least) for a while. Because once you start looking around for new things to posture about, you run the risk of becoming a little less right than you originally were.

It just happens.

Thank goodness the women's movement seems to have (mostly) come out of that stage. But they do have a history of working the phones to keep certain shows and movies they don't "like" off the air.... And in some cases, quite unjustly.

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It's on Youtube:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_gLDF2dGLY

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Crazy feminists!

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Nope.

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