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Spooky Emit Flesti quote

posted 22 years ago by rserrano
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It's hard to find anything, in a post 9/11 world, spookier then Emit Flesti's quote late in this movie:

"You know the old prophesy?
In the year of hate,
When all that is foriegn is despised,
By the full September moon,
Dark riders will invade the harbor,
Take the ship with all hands on board,
And sail it into hell."

It turns out that the full moon that month was not on the 11th, but other than that, the similarities are eerie.
Does anyone know anything about where this quote came from? I have not found any connections with Nostradomus, although the phrasing certainly conjures up that notion. I have even tried to e-mail the writers (Wenders, Reitinger and Zieger) to try to get some information, but I can understand someone not wanting to claim precognition for such events.

[–] batcam 21 years ago

That is a pretty spooky coincidence.

I just got the movie on DVD, and need to watch it again...but here is my first impression...

There are points when Biblical paraphrases are used in the movie (as well as Wings of Desire), most of which I can't remember off the top of my head. At any rate, Emit Flesti's (aka Time Itself) quote falls pretty closely to prophesy in the book of Revelation.

I, of course, can't say for certain that this is the case, but it is my first impression. The wording is very similar to what is prophesized in the "end of time".

[–] Lulu-49 21 years ago

Um... no it isn't at all like anything in the book of Revelations, and in fact Cassiel responds by saying "I know every prophecy and I've never heard that one". In fact the movie does not paraphrase the holy scriptures but quotes them explicitly, beginning with the typographical quotation at the very beginning "The eye is the lamp of the body". The Flesti quote has a very vague connection to 9/11/01, but it is still spooky. Probably the spookiest thing about it is that someone actually thinks it might be in the bible.

[–] batcam 21 years ago

Um, I did a search for key phrases on my handy Bible program, and there certainly are references. I guess I should restate myself that what I found was not precisely in the Bible, but allusions to certain things. King James version, but I don't remember exact verses. Lighten up.

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[–] lung 21 years ago

I don't think its that spooky. All it really says is "something bad will happen in September." When you think about it, bad things happen everyday. I would also imagine that September was chosen because it is the end of the summer, it gets cold, dark etc.

[–] rserrano 21 years ago

OK, yes, like all "Nostadamus type" predictions, this one is filled with vague poetic language that allows multiple interpretations. I'm also not a big believer in clairvoyant seers, just because there is little evidence that anyone has ever predicted the future correctly with much consistency. And yes, bad things happen every day. Having said that, however, it is not every day that those bad things involve the "taking" of a modern day air "ship" by non-western europeans, in a city that is reknowned for and exists because of it's harbor, which then culminates in a ball of fire which can only be called "hell". Also, from the stand point of sound and poetry, the months October, November, December, January, February and March all work as well or better than September in this passage, and are far colder and darker. "September" and the "year" 2001 will always be linked to this event that occured only because of a sad, delusional sense of xenophobic "hate".
Don't you find that atleast a little spooky?

[–] lung 21 years ago

I don't find it spooky. Go to Baghdad or Israel. Tell the people there what you think. You'll find they suffer from "Ships" from foreigners every day, including september. Yes March etc. are colder, september is the end of the summer, the "death" of summer. Year of hate? Again stop being so selfish, look at other countries in the world. They have it far worse everyday, than that one horrible day, in 2001. Again, look at Iraq, Israel and Palestine.

Dark riders are anyone who invades? Palestineans in Israel, Zionists in Palestine. It like every other "prophecy" just has some coincidences in it. They just happen to relate to America in this case.

[–] rserrano 20 years ago

I don't disagree. Context is important. But to about three hundred million people, the quote is extremely chilling.

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