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I'd rather die than to live by stupid laws like that!


If the U.S made it illegal to smoke, drink alcalholic beverages, have sex, eat meat, using salt, drinking soda, and cussing, I would rather die than to follow those stupid and anti bible laws (except for soda). I really don't see how you could enforce such stupid laws.

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It's not so much smoking but to outlaw sex to me is just stupid. I wouldn't want to have a cloned kid.

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You realize that cloning is completely different from what they were talking about, right?

I don't know if I've lived 10,000 days, or one day 10,000 times...

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It wasn't really the United States... Just San Angeles or whatever they called it. That's why I never got why Dennis Leary didn't just move to a place that was still engulfed in anarchy/semi anarchy.

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So when do hamburgers become a public health issue, or salt or STDs.

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.........New York City is already "urging" resturants cut back on the use of salt. They criminalized smoking in bars (and no I'm not a smoker) and of course trans fats. Funny, years ago Wisconsin, which considered itself the dairy state, fined people for bringing oleo margin into the state. Today all they would have to do is declare trans fats illegal........In other areas New York passed a low against squirt guns. To prevent supper soker running from the suburbs they got the state to take legal action against Wal-Mart. Of course San Francisco has all but banned bottled water........When I would go football games in high school and see someone, in the stands, drinking out of a paper bag it meant he had smuggled a beer into the game. With today's rules against junk food on school grounds he probably would be drinking a soft drink. As for the play ground tag is now considered antisocial as is cops and robbers is a excessively violent role playing game and cowboys and Indians is ultra racist. Some preschools don't even permit Leg gos, because they might build houses (power structures) for themselves. You can go on and on........Despite what Al Gore says frogs will jump out of harms way if their environment warms or changes. People, who don't have the sense of frogs, let the government gradually intrude into their lifestyle and personal freedoms without doing anything. Enjoy your rat burgers.
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Some preschools don't even permit Leg gos, because they might build houses (power structures) for themselves.


You can't be serious...

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Google 'fat acceptance' - a backlash movement against increasing attempts by officials to politicise 'obesity' and police people's bodies through a combination of misinformation and the reinforcement of popular prejudice, and legislation limiting the rights of larger folk.

In recent months in the UK (the current frontline of the fight over Western civil liberties) people have been fired, had their children removed by State officials, been told they are too fat for NHS treatment, all with widespread public approval and the support of the mass media.

Meanwhile, the British Govt is about to ban smoking in many outdoors locations, within private homes and cars where children are present and to demand cigarettes are sold in plain packs and kept out of public view under the store counter.

And whilst politicians have thus far resisted it, doctors' groups want alcohol taxes raised, availability curbed and recreational drinking demonised. In the UK the seeds of many of the features of San Angeles have already been sown.

they're even trying to regulate the sound output levels of iPods and mp3 players, as well as setting a maximum limit for concerts and nightclubs, all in the interests of 'protecting our hearing'.

Unchecked the results of this trend will inevitably be a conformist and highly regulated society like those found in Singapore and Japan, in what was once a liberal democracy where people were allowed to weigh up the risks of an activity or choice and make a rational decision whether or not to partake.

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this does remind me of the Back To the Future game were people was brainwashed

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Actually the 'fat acceptance' movement is a backlash of fat people being bullied by thin people. It has nothing to do with policing peoples bodies rather just saying fat people should be treated fairly. You can be as fat as you want just don't expect me to pay for your healthcare when you have a heart attack at the age of 35. Also, don't sit next to me on a plane or bus and were good.

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I may not have tattoos or smoke but f$ck if people shouldn't have the right to do these things... the highlight of the movie for me was when the thugs killed that leader guy whatever his name is... who want's to live in some quazi communist society anyways?

Ban this, ban that? Actually we seem to be going the opposite direction in some areas... I'm surprised how many personal freedoms we've still managed to retain and now we are slowly getting the right to smoke marijuana too.

I half expected guns banned by now... but I suppose that's still coming.

So which party would be more likely to bring us such a 'utopian' society as portrayed in this movie? Democrats or republicans? This is why gridlock is good, by the way.. one side gets too much power and they institute their own brand of 'morality' on everyone.

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I totally agree with your political gridlock statement. The people are better off when the government does...nothing.



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the sex was made illegal because of 2 deadly STDs that supposably came out after AIDS...

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OMG imagine all this actually happened!

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i'm a curvy, caffeine addict, smoker...yep i would kill myself!

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If people want to kill themselves they should not kill other people. So many of us think that cigarettes should be illegal. Many of us think that cigarettes should be illegal since it's a public health issue. I think that cigarettes should be illegal since pot is illegal. Also tattoos and body piercings are illegal in this society.

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If you grew up in those times you wouldn't know what you'd be missing out on, so you can't really say that

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Well my diet consists of meat. That is how I get my protein and I wouldn't want to switch to Peanut butter because I don't really care for it that much. I'll eat a Peanut butter and Jelly sandwitch every once in a while but I don't want to have to eat so much peanut butter to make up for the protein that is in meat. Some meat is unhealthy like red meat.
Now I like to have a burger at least once a week but I don't eat 3 hamburgers a day with french fries. Anyway I mostly eat ham or turkey sandwitches with onions, green bell peppers, and BBQ sauce. If they outlawed all meat I would go insane! I crave meat. In a way you could say that I'm addicted to it. So if they passed a law and said you weren't allowed to eat or sell meat it would be bad for me. Plus a lot of farmers raise pigs, turkeys, chickens, and cows for meat and without that they'd proably suffer financially. So therefore making it illegal to eat meat is just stupid.

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You (demolition18)are really getting on my nerves. I've already replied to you in another post about how much you mention how you're against smoking. You've mentioned it at least twice in only the first page of this one thread. Even if you're position on this wasn't misinformed and we actually agreed, it would still be annoying. While we're at it, stop mentioning deleted scenes and Jesse Ventura. By all means create a few threads for these things (which you have)but stop mentioning the same things in every single thread.

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I don't know about y'all, but that having to be registered to have a kid makes sense. Instead of banning sex, just put everyone on birth control in the water and crap, until they pass the registration.

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Haha you want to ban contact sports and meat!

I mean, if you don't want to eat meat or play contact sports that's your choice, but seriously, WTF?

Are you a communist or something?

Piss off to North Korea.

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Meat: Animals are killed for profit and for food. We could find other things to eat as a civilized people.


You know what, if you banned meat, they'll kill the cows anyway, because there is no way a rancher is just going to keep a thousand plus cattle grazing on his land for free. Some of you morons really need to think before you act!

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Maybe you should be the one to think before you act or speak. If meat was banned ranchers/farmers wouldn't be breeding the animals to kill in the first place.

If you eat meat, it might do you well to get educated on how the animal agricultural system works. Then maybe you won't look a fool next time someone says something sensible like banning meat would be a good thing...especially after that bs about peanut butter someone said - as though peanuts are the only other source of protein out there XD

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Who said anything about being civilized? I eat meat because it is *beep* delicious and I like it.




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That sounded stupid.
If meat is banned, all the cows would be killed, cremated and that is the end of it. No more breeding more cows to kill.

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''cigarettes cuases cancer

contact sports: Sports competition will only create or seeds hatred among participants. Competition not only leads to division, but leads to jealousy, bitterness, anger, insecurity and or pride and other selfish emotions ....among other things. People in competition will tend to "throw others under the bus" so to speak so they can be first or best or what ever it is that makes them feel superior to others rather then helping others to accomplish things together and enjoying the rewards together.
Competition at it's roots is unhealthy and even evil.

Meat: Animals are killed for profit and for food. We could find other things to eat as a civilized people.

Gasoline: We as Humans switch to energy generated by clean, renewable sources such as wind and solar. In some of these, you can even get refunds by government if you choose to switch to a clean energy producer, and you can also earn money by selling the energy you produce and don't use for yourself.''



Are you gay?
Possibly yes.

If cigarette causes cancer what do you care? It is my cancer and not yours. And anyway, cancer has deeply genetic roots that are being oerlooked in this quest for demonizing tobacco.

Human beings are inherently violent. We are cousin of chimps for christ sake, and chimps are quite territorial and violent. Violence should not be totally muted in society , in fact it should be encouraged in positive ways. Contact sports should be mandatory for mens, that way they can express their violence in a controllable environment.

I dont care if we can find another thing to eat. I like meat. I am not going to stop eating it. All life forms are destined to be extinct anyway (including the human species) why should i pity low life forms and abdicate myself the pleasures of a good bloody steak? Give me a good reason.


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Well you know what, the U.S is heading in that direction quickly. The U.S is turning into a huge nanny state and the government thinks they can poke their finger into everyones buisness and can/try dictate what they can an cant do.





I would be ok with

cigarettes, contact sports,meat and gasoline being against the law.
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cigarettes cuases cancer

contact sports: Sports competition will only create or seeds hatred among participants. Competition not only leads to division, but leads to jealousy, bitterness, anger, insecurity and or pride and other selfish emotions ....among other things. People in competition will tend to "throw others under the bus" so to speak so they can be first or best or what ever it is that makes them feel superior to others rather then helping others to accomplish things together and enjoying the rewards together.
Competition at it's roots is unhealthy and even evil.

Meat: Animals are killed for profit and for food. We could find other things to eat as a civilized people.

Gasoline: We as Humans switch to energy generated by clean, renewable sources such as wind and solar. In some of these, you can even get refunds by government if you choose to switch to a clean energy producer, and you can also earn money by selling the energy you produce and don't use for yourself.


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People with yore ideas are destorying this country(U.S.A) No competition? what communist book have you been reading? American love to fight and they love to compete, Like General Patton said "Americans love to fight, traditionally. All real Americans love the sting and clash of battle...When you, here, everyone of you, were kids, you all admired the champion marble player, the fastest runner, the toughest boxer, the big league ball players, and the All-American football players. Americans love a winner. Americans will not tolerate a loser. Americans despise cowards. Americans play to win all of the time. I wouldn't give a hoot in hell for a man who lost and laughed. That's why Americans have never lost nor will ever lose a war; for the very idea of losing is hateful to an American." Every word he said is a fact, if you dont like contact sports or whatever than fine thats your opinion but you try and force your ideals on other people there is going to be problems and they will compete against you and they will win because you dont believe in competition.


Also, humans didnt get to where they are today by eating leaves and other vegetarian bull *beep* ill stick with my double bacon burger.

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Americans and all the developed world for that matters are getting too softened by their own media and entertainment to the level that they lose their common sense. speaking of communism, have you actually lived in a communist country? countries like cuba, former soviet union and the eastern bloc...etc, they were under socialist or communist rules and been through plenty of social engineering but still you dont see them come up with laws like these. they still keep their common sense and they're not completely robotic sheeple like the people in this movie. however i do blame it on neo-liberalism that's going on in the western world, which is also a by-product of being pampered by the wealth just like its counter part neo-conservativism. (neo-liberalism is different from communism and it's sad that a lotta americans dont know the difference).

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If the U.S made it illegal to smoke, drink alcalholic beverages, have sex, eat meat, using salt, drinking soda, and cussing, I would rather die than to follow those stupid and anti bible laws
... or just move to another country?

On the other hand, it's important to remember (especially those who rail against these "laws" instead of laughing at them as they're comically inclined) that the laws and restrictions imposed on San Angeles are the machinations of one man (more specifically a man who wishes to mold San Angeles into his own puritanical society). The entire argument of the movie is that humans are creatures of vice, and this puritanical society misses the point.

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I agree the laws are horrible and unconstitutional.

No one has the right to make laws like this unless there are made by a dictator.
That would mean a war would have happened and America was taken over.
Do you want another Civil War in America? Liberals sound like they do.
Even though they don't believe in guns. Which is stupid and small minded.

The laws like salt and trans fats are unconstitutional and people better start fighting these unconstitutional laws.

No one has the right to ban these things.
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Even though American society is increasing in it's obesity level every year? Do you want to be hailed as a nation of fatties for years to come, or not?

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You can't take away people's free will though. Make phys ed and healthy foods mandatory in public schools and force fast food joints to advertise their cholesterol information but don't take away people's free will.

Would you choose water over wine...?
Hold the wheel and drive?

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if president hussein and nancy pelosi have their way it will happen

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In America, at least in New York, you HAVE to wear your seat belt or you get a ticket.

Would you choose water over wine...?
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