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Has there ever been another female actress with a pronounced lisp


I am guessing still it is only her character Scully that does this and not Gillian Anderson. Thoughts?

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Troll.

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Thanks for your non-answer. I wish the thread starter could delete posts like yours from a thread as you are a known thread de-railer. Let's keep this on topic folks.

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You are a known X-Files/Gillian Anderson troll with a history of posting non-SENSE.

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You'd call me a CSM troll even if I criticized the fake brand of Marlboro cigarettes they show him smoking (Morley). Hyper sensitive people like yourself are the real trolls.

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by kjm20005 » You'd call me a CSM troll even if I criticized the fake brand of Marlboro cigarettes they show him smoking (Morley). Hyper sensitive people like yourself are the real trolls.

Says the troll resorting to assumption-based strawman arguments to try to distract from the trollish tendencies being made obvious with it's other posts.

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And you could simply have ignored him until he went away again. Like most people will. Now I suppose you'll engage with him for days and this thread will end up pages long.

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And adding your 2 cents didn't contribute to this thread one iota. What made you decide to even chime in? It wasn't necessary at ALL. But then again, it's what you do.

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by Wookieebitch » And you could simply have ignored him until he went away again. Like most people will. Now I suppose you'll engage with him for days and this thread will end up pages long.

And you STILL haven't explained the impetus for this newfound animosity and obvious obsession with trying to portray me in a negative way.

As even kjm was able to note though, the irony of your post was indeed thick.

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WB is right (not about you per se, but in general, about the poster) :O I replied to a bunch of his posts, basically calling him an ignoramus because he is aggressively ignorant. But still, she's right.

The suspense is terrible. I hope it'll last.
~Gene Wilder, RIP, Willy Wonka & The Chocolate Factory

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by ThreeZs » WB is right (not about you per se, but in general, about the poster) :O I replied to a bunch of his posts, basically calling him an ignoramus because he is aggressively ignorant. But still, she's right.

Then again, a few initial counter-posts can serve as an effective public service announcement to help anyone unaware of kjm's past from getting themselves into a discussion that WE know will turn into a waste of time.

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True. A 'be forewarned' notice.

The suspense is terrible. I hope it'll last.
~Gene Wilder, RIP, Willy Wonka & The Chocolate Factory

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And you could simply have ignored him until he went away again. Like most people will. Now I suppose you'll engage with him for days and this thread will end up pages long.

So, kjm came back. I mean, I can see he posted again but I can't see his posts because I have him on ignore. What a troll. And not even a "good troll" if you know what I mean. Everybody should just ignore him.

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Everybody should just ignore him.


Yes, they should but I suspect that somebody will respond to him for days and days and days and then cry about how he's been portrayed negatively when called on it.

And not even a "good troll"


kjm is a pretty piss-poor troll.

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by Wookieebitch » Yes, they should but I suspect that somebody will respond to him for days and days and days and then cry about how he's been portrayed negatively when called on it.

Grudge holder indeed.

And YOU tell ME to grow up. 

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Are you going to continue to stalk my posts? I'm done with you, WTT. I'm sick of the hysterical behavior and the ranting for days and days and days. If you don't want people to call you on your behavior then stop behaving that way.

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by Wookieebitch >> Are you going to continue to stalk my posts? I'm done with you, WTT. I'm sick of the hysterical behavior and the ranting for days and days and days. If you don't want people to call you on your behavior then stop behaving that way.

What's sad is that you honestly don't seem to understand that in making posts like this, you're doing exactly what I'm saying you're doing. (Trying to portray me in a negative manner).

Your OPINIONS however, are noted.

Feel better now?

And BTW, is everyone supposed to take this as meaning that only YOU can call people out when they're behaving passive-aggressively with thei way they're making their posts?

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And BTW, is everyone supposed to take this as meaning that only YOU can call people out when they're behaving passive-aggressively with thei way they're making their posts?


Nice. Do you always play stupid when playing the victim? This has everything to do with you loudly proclaiming another poster a troll and throwing a fit because only one person decided to agree with you. And then you continued to harass me about my opinion for days and when I continued to ignore your incessant ranting you decided to go cry about how you'd been treated so poorly to Z. You tried to bully me into feeling the same way you do and when I didn't you cried about "agendas" and how people are out to get you. You've placed far more importance on yourself and your opinion than any of us have.

You're a typical bully.

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And BTW, is everyone supposed to take this as meaning that only YOU can call people out when they're behaving passive-aggressively with thei way they're making their posts?

by Wookieebitch » Nice. Do you always play stupid when playing the victim? This has everything to do with you loudly proclaiming another poster a troll and throwing a fit because only one person decided to agree with you. And then you continued to harass me about my opinion for days and when I continued to ignore your incessant ranting you decided to go cry about how you'd been treated so poorly to Z. You tried to bully me into feeling the same way you do and when I didn't you cried about "agendas" and how people are out to get you. You've placed far more importance on yourself and your opinion than any of us have.

You're a typical bully.

Wow. speaking of playing stupid.

Your post had NOTHING to do with the post you were responding to about about YOUR recent (hypocritical passive-aggressive) actions, and ONLY everything to do with you trying to save face for going off half-cocked before you had all the facts and not wanting to admit you could still possibly be wrong about this whole AG being a troll fiasco.

After all, I'm only a bully in this situation if I'm wrong, and you certainly haven't proven that to be the case...even after days and days of attempting to discredit how others might view my comments with your incessant "crying", "whining", "throwing a fit", "harassment", "bullying" mis-characterizations.

And yet you claim it's ME placing far too much importance on MYself.

It's called a mirror. Check it out.

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Hi WTT,

Have you read the remainder of the thread? WB and I talk further about what happened, and in that exchange, she explained her thoughts and feelings further. Maybe there's still some room for understanding.
I know it's next to impossible to read these things about oneself and NOT defend oneself. Maybe there's a way to defend oneself and reach an understanding at the same time. I don't know.

Something else. I wrote some things about how it feels to be on the opposing side of you. You're formidable. I apologize in advance if I offend you or if I said anything wrong. I also apologize for anything else I said wrong. My motivation was to understand WB's and your points of view and see if there was some room for both of you in that.

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Don't bother.

This comment is everything that needs to be said:

..an opinion of which it has to be admitted could easily be viewed as currently skewed...due to politics and gender of all things based on that persons own comments (which if you'll remember Z's, I suggested as both being a possibility via PM quite a few days ago).


So, he's basically not taking any responsibility for his actions but is blaming it on his gender and the current political climate. Before it was "agendas" and now it's because he's a man. He's a man who behaved like a douche but he'd rather not admit that.

And he's still prattling on about how we haven't proven that AG isn't a troll. Yet he has yet to prove that he is a troll.

If you both want to bitch about how mean I am then take it to PM and have your little whine fest.

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If you both want to bitch about how mean I am then take it to PM and have your little whine fest.

WB, I'm not going to do that. I think you know that.

FWIW, I'm informed by the recent political climate, too, and don't tolerate bullying (and sexism, in my case) like I once did. Along with a sense of entitlement, it's become an epidemic in American culture.

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WB, I'm not going to do that. I think you know that.


I do but I suspect that WTT would really enjoy it if you did.

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by ThreeZs » Hi WTT, Something else. I wrote some things about how it feels to be on the opposing side of you. You're formidable. I apologize in advance if I offend you or if I said anything wrong. I also apologize for anything else I said wrong. My motivation was to understand WB's and your points of view and see if there was some room for both of you in that.

It's been clear that you've tried to maintain an objective viewpoint from the start, so where your responses to my comments are concerned, you have nothing to apologize for. I know I've not been trying to "bludgeon" anyone with my comments anyway because I'm aware that I CAN get wordy at times - for a specific reason I've already explained. Fair enough?

WookieBitch on the other hand just provided another example of how she's tried to twist (based on misinterpretation) some of my comments to suit herself, in this case by trying to suggest that I was talking about myself when I mentioned gender and politics in my previous post.

YOU and I both know I was talking about a possible explanation for WB's recent behavior towards me that I'd suggested in one of my recent PM's...where I was referring to comments SHE has made in the past where she clearly illustrated politics and gender as having been an influence in comments that SHE made.

- And BTW Wookie, in those PM's to Z's, I've never once referred to your comments here as being "mean". And rather than them being "bitchy whine fests", my PM's to Z's have centered around trying to understand why you've been behaving as obstinately towards me as you have lately. I can bring this up publicly because I know Z's could honestly substantiate/corroborate how I'm characterizing my PM's and not be accused of taking a side and having that held against her. (That's a benefit of being objective when forming opinions.)

I do suspect however you'd really enjoy it if my PM's HAD been able to be viewed in that way though.


In that light Z's, I "believe" I can "claim" that I've ALREADY been trying to understand WB's comments, intents, and motivations while defending myself. If to suit their own purposes some conveniently resort to not acknowledging that as having taken responsibility for my OWN actions...well...what else is new?

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I said this on the last thread about this but I'll say it again; I have never noticed either Gillian Anderson or Scully having a lisp.

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I haven't, either. Even if she had one, so what?

The suspense is terrible. I hope it'll last.
~Gene Wilder, RIP, Willy Wonka & The Chocolate Factory

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Me either.

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I never noticed a lisp either. Only her whisper voice that she now seems to take from one series to another.

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OK, that's enough. This is a rotten thread to begin with--recycled from another rotten thread started by a troll, for crying out loud. Do you really REALLY need to add "whisper voice" to the list of things to argue about in this thread?

I've started a thread on why I think Fight Club should've been a B movie. What do you think?
The suspense is terrible. I hope it'll last.
~Gene Wilder, RIP, Willy Wonka & The Chocolate Factory

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Ok so who made you queen to dictate what is enough or what is relevant. Last thing I remember you were supposed to watch one scene of one episode and tell me what happened and you told me several times you would do it and then never did. Sounds like you are one of those "do what I say but not as I do" kind of people.

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Says the the ignoramus who can't figure out what's going on in his own thread.

The suspense is terrible. I hope it'll last.
~Gene Wilder, RIP, Willy Wonka & The Chocolate Factory

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My advice is to not respond to what is obviously a desperate plea for attention. He's probably all puckered up in the butthole that all this conversation is happening and none of it is directed at him. Funny how trolls are actually kind of obvious in their behavior.

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I replied :O

AFTER I said I wouldn't [Sad LOL]

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I think it would bother him a lot more to actually be ignored than anything any of us could say to him.

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After his last reply to me, here, below, I think you're right ;)
"And I'm offended when people purposely misspell the word God as GAWD. That to me shows a seriously lost person and one of very low intelligence. In other words, it sounds like something you'd say ZZZ"

The suspense is terrible. I hope it'll last.
~Gene Wilder, RIP, Willy Wonka & The Chocolate Factory

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Gee, he's an idiot. What a surprise. He's proven time and time again that he's a moron but let's go ahead and engage him in conversation and be surprised when he shows himself to be the idiot he is. It really would be best for him to just sit and stew in his own tears because nobody will reply to him. Sadly, that probably won't happen.

It was nice that he popped his head back in here though so people can remember what a troll really is.

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He's an ignoramus, but the implication was that he's trying to goad people into replying.

This has nothing to do with AG, but here you are, bring it up. Again. Is it possible to leave well enough alone?

Some trolls are easy to spot, and some aren't. Some behaviors are clearly trolling, other behaviors are borderline and/or murky.

I apologized to AG. Are you gonna bring this up until I agree with you? Call me Sweden.

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This has nothing to do with AG, but here you are, bring it up.


Did I mention AG? No, I didn't. I mentioned that kgm is a good example of what a real troll is. Considering people constantly throwing around the word "troll", it's a lesson that should stick. Or did you neglect to notice that Mr. Troll is calling people troll. Do you want to continue to be oversensitive on the topic?

Call me Sweden.


I'm wondering if you mean Switzerland and if we're discussing the AG situation, you were not Switzerland.

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Switzerland :O

Or did you neglect to notice that Mr. Troll is calling people troll.

Oh, he always does that.

Do you want to continue to be oversensitive on the topic?

No, I'd rather not be, lol.

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Too many people throw out the word "troll" when they just don't like what somebody said. Yes, that certainly applies to WTT and AG but it also applies to more than them.

Switzerland is neutral. When you're actually neutral is when you claim to be Switzerland.

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by Wookieebitch » Did I mention AG? No, I didn't.

Plausible denial and semantics being what they are, I'd just like you to go on public record stating that you were not referring to our recent discussions IN ANY WAY with the comments you were making which led up to this specific response.

A simple Yes or No will suffice.

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Some behaviors are clearly trolling, other behaviors are borderline and/or murky.


Just to clarify, if behavior is borderline and/or murky, the person probably shouldn't be called a troll.

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Borderline and murky are perceptions of the viewer. It's often dependent on one's vantage point. What's clear as day to one person can be murky to the next.
Did you see my reply to WTT about how you can't prove a person isn't a troll any more than a person can't prove I'm not a warthog. That's my homage to the Swiss.

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How about this, stop calling people trolls unless they're actually a troll. If it's murky or borderline then there's a good chance the person isn't a troll. Nobody gets any awards for shouting "troll". They look more like Chicken Little shouting about how the sky is falling.

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I made a mistake. I apologized. The end.

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Jesus. I'd say based on your sensitivity on the subject that you know that you screwed up. My comment was general but please, go ahead and take it as a personal affront.

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Oh. :O

The suspense is terrible. I hope it'll last.
~Gene Wilder, RIP, Willy Wonka & The Chocolate Factory

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It really is everywhere, Z... people throwing out the troll label and automatically dismissing the other person's opinion. And yes, it irritates the hell out of me. Sometimes it makes me downright angry. However, to be fair, I am more angry about real life injustices that are basically the same situation and that is spilling over into my IMDb communication. I'm disappointed about what happened here but probably not as angry as you may think I am.

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TBH, it comes across as genuine, palpable anger when you're talking to WTT. I don't think for a minute that his intent is to bully you into agreeing with him. Maybe it comes across as trying to bludgeon you with a mountain of words. I think I might know how that feels. I've been on the other end of that mountain!

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That post actually was about you. I am angry with WTT. I wasn't, merely irritated. However, his persistence in posting to me on the subject and then his post to you today about how people had an agenda against him were the end of my rope, as it were. WTT can think whatever he wants but he doesn't have the right to make others share that opinion, or get mad if they don't. I feel like he tried to bully me into changing my mind and showed a complete lack of respect for my right to my own opinion.

Maybe it comes across as trying to bludgeon you with a mountain of words.


Interesting word choice if you're trying to say that he doesn't intend to bully.

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The word choice was intentional. Because that's what it feels like when it happens. But he's just a wordy guy.

Which post were you talking about me in? I've lost track!

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I'm disappointed about what happened here but probably not as angry as you may think I am.

The whole post wasn't about you. I'm probably making things more muddy by trying to clarify.

The word choice was intentional. Because that's what it feels like when it happens.


Can you see how somebody would interpret that as bullying?

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Can you see how somebody would interpret that as bullying?

Yes, I absolutely can, having been on the receiving end of it.

I saw his posts to you more as a plea than as a directive, though. (I don't know how else to say that. There's gotta be a better way, but there it is.)

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Then I'm afraid WTT just learned a valuable lesson... do not continue to push a woman when she already feels like she's been pushed. This lesson will serve him well in life.

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I hope he doesn't go ballistic when he reads what I wrote. I wouldn't blame him if he did, though....My motives are good. I hope that's enough.

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The "bludgeoning" part? I would hope he wouldn't but I'm afraid I don't have the best faith in his reactions at this point in time so my opinion is decidedly biased. He'll probably ask you about your word choice but to be fair, if you said that about me I'd have to ask you if you really thought I was bludgeony.

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I've told him he was wordish. I just didn't tell him the weight of the word was weighty and had heft.

The "plea" part.

The suspense is terrible. I hope it'll last.
~Gene Wilder, RIP, Willy Wonka & The Chocolate Factory

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Oh. That's very different than what I was thinking. I can think of nothing to say that wouldn't make the situation any less uncomfortable. I could only make everything worse.

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Right. I couldn't think of a better, more appropriate word. But I had to try to talk to you. To try to mend fences, if I could. I thought and think the grief tomorrow was worth the effort of today.

The suspense is terrible. I hope it'll last.
~Gene Wilder, RIP, Willy Wonka & The Chocolate Factory

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I don't recall ever actually being this angry with an anonymous poster on a message board so I don't know if I'll get over it. I may hold a grudge of my own and think he's a jerk for a long while. I don't know, my anger over what I consider to be bullying behavior is all wrapped up with my anger at the bullying behavior of Trump so that's somewhat amplified my anger at this whole situation. Basically, poor timing.

For my part, I had to talk to you because I realized all the joy of posting here was gone. I also think it's totally awesome that his whole sappy conversation has taken place on kjy's thread. 

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Oh, I talk to you because I enjoy talking with you. But I meant that I needed to try to talk to you about the elephant in the room. I owe it to both of you to try.

I'm wishing you both well. I mean that.

LOL, it is pretty awesome that we had this discussion here, isn't it? And the OP is a killjoy, isn't he?

The suspense is terrible. I hope it'll last.
~Gene Wilder, RIP, Willy Wonka & The Chocolate Factory

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I know that's what you meant. That's who you are.

I'm wishing you both well. I mean that.


I know that too. That's who you are.

OP is an insipid fool.

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If I get wordy at times, it's only because I'm trying to make it as clear as possible what MY meaning is. (Semantics on internet message boards being what they are and all).

Sadly, even that sometimes proves not to be enough (as it has here recently on many occasions), especially when others have proven that their overall intent is either not to listen, or, to purposefully twist my comments/meaning in an effort to push their OWN agenda.

That I've been characterized even possibly as being "mad - to the point of bullying - that people aren't agreeing with me" is simply one persons' opinion, an opinion of which it has to be admitted could easily be viewed as currently skewed...due to politics and gender of all things based on that persons own comments (which if you'll remember Z's, I suggested as both being a possibility via PM quite a few days ago).

Everyone is free of course to also view my comments as "reactionary", which IIRC was a suggestion AlarmedGibbon made about me from the VERY START, but I would contend that if anyone were inclined to go back and reread my comments from the very start with one of those hard hearts, those same comments would come across as objective and fact-based as ever.

My apologies to all who may have felt "bludgeoned" by this post. That wasn't MY intention. 



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You're angry at Trump? Are you f'ing kidding me? Get some playdoh and sit in a crying corner like the little kids in college that can't cope that Trump won. Grow up and learn to be an adult. If you can't accept Trump will make America Great again then you have bigger problems than I thought. Mental problems. Seek help.

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you do realize this is an X Files message board and not the Dr. Phil show. Take your personal conversations to private message if you want to chit chat with your friends. You yourself made that suggestion earlier in the thread and I would hope you wouldn't be a hypocrite about it and practice what you preach wookiebitch

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TBH it just seems like you out of the three have a severe anger issue. Yet you are crying about the bullying problem and you are a bully yourself. Talk about being a hypocrite. Get help, it's only there to help you. Shall I pray for you?

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WTT,

My apologies to all who may have felt "bludgeoned" by this post. That wasn't MY intention.

Oh good, you're joshing. You must not be mad at me. Whew!

Before you reply to kjm's post, here's a heads up. Kjm reported me to IMDB. I got the red letter warning today.

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by ThreeZs » WTT,

Oh good, you're joshing. You must not be mad at me. Whew!

I may get occasionally disappointed/disgusted by what I read on internet message boards, but when I know and understand that there are some people (let's call them trolls shall we ) who post at places like this SPECIFICALLY to try to elicit angry reactions in other posters, it's not difficult to maintain the outside-looking-in perspective required to refrain from giving those trolls what they obviously want. Angry REACTIONS.

This is of course not to be confused with getting to a point where suffering those fools shouldn't be called for exactly what it is and finally letting them know they've been playing your game all along.




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by Wookieebitch » How about this, stop calling people trolls unless they're actually a troll. If it's murky or borderline then there's a good chance the person isn't a troll. Nobody gets any awards for shouting "troll". They look more like Chicken Little shouting about how the sky is falling.

by ThreeZs » I made a mistake. I apologized. The end.

The fact of the matter is, neither of you has proven whether AG is a troll or not, so to be discussing that he's not and that a mistake has been made in saying he is as if those comments are foregone conclusions are simply baseless assumptions on both your parts.

Why SOME (notice I didn't specify anyone in particular - plausible denial and semantics can work both ways after all) are still trying to steer the conclusion in that general direction can...it has to be admitted...be interpreted in certain ways.

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No, I haven't proven that, WTT, and I know I don't have all the info or insight. Also, I believe that you have your reasons for believing that the poster is. That hasn't changed.

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And yet there were people that actually DID hear a noticeable lisp. When you say "road signs" does it sound like "road shines"? If it does then you have a lisp.

Xfiles becomes X filesh

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I am guessing still it is only her character Scully that does this and not Gillian Anderson. Thoughts?
Thoughts? My thoughts are "Oh no, this stupid crap again?"

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My thoughts are, "I need a good CLAP WHISTLE CLAP emoticon." (Sorry for the all caps. But seriously, good comment.)

The suspense is terrible. I hope it'll last.
~Gene Wilder, RIP, Willy Wonka & The Chocolate Factory

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She doesn't have a lisp . . .




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I don't know about lisp, but I DO hate how her lips look like when she's forming sounds, I DO hate her voice thoroughly, I hate her ugly mug - everything about her spells repulsion and I want to vomit at every pixel that has ever depicted her in any way or form.

It was a thorough shock to me when I was told there are people who actually think she's not only tolerable in some way, let alone attractive. What the hell is wrong with people?

In any case, she does pronounce her 'S' a little oddly, now that I pay attention to it - but to be honest, all her speech sounds like harpy shrieking vile and evil things to my ear at full volume, I can't tolerate it for extended periods at a time.

They chose a horrible hag as the counter-witch for Mulder's normal guy-character - I always thought that was the point, for scully (SKULLy..?) to be as repulsive and as opposite to Mulder's good guy truthseeker chracter as possible, she's there to deny, derail, bewitch, b1tch and horrify everything Mulder is trying to do.

I don't think a lisp really enters into it, she's horrible enough even without one, but as I mentioned, I can't focus listening on that horrible soundpuke long enough to notice whether it has a lisp or not.

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