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Frasier more grounded on this show than on Cheers?

posted 8 years ago by shrilltrills
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I've seen a few articles that say that the creators wanted to make him more grounded on this show, because on Cheers, Frasier was a nutcase. But from what I've seen, he seemed crazier on Frasier. Of course, I haven't seen all of Cheers. And I know there was one episode where he pulled a gun on Sam (though it wasn't loaded), so there are exceptions. But overall, he seemed much more normal and together on Cheers than on Frasier. Or am I missing something?

[–] blakgard 8 years ago

Don't understand that, myself. Generally, I found him to be the voice of reason on Cheers, with a few exceptions. On Frasier, he's almost a lunatic at times.

[–] Deenglow 8 years ago

Frasier was absolutely definitely NOT more grounded on his own show. He was a rich, pretentious celebrity. On Cheers he was a regular, successful professional with a dysfunctional social and personal life. Frasier was increasingly a comedy about high society fops, not about grounded people dealing with "normal" life problems.

How anyone could think a show about a guy whose problems revolve around society dinners, access to addictive caviar and wine club leadership is "grounded" is a mystery. I still love the show though!

[–] shrilltrills 8 years ago

Lol yeah I was rolling my eyes the entire time when Frasier and Niles were all excited about the possibility of being Corkmaster for their wine club. Just...why would someone even care about something like that? It wasn't a paying position, it's not anything you can really put on a resume at all - all it does is give you a higher ranking among a group of snooty people. But then, I guess something like that would have been important to Frasier and Niles. Lol.

But I agree, I love the show. The fact that the main character was so snooty and pretentious was part of what made it so funny.

[–] moonmarvin 8 years ago

Frasier becomes an entirely new character on his own show, he even speaks differently. In Boston he was one of the guys, even though he stood out as a sore thumb, but in Seattle he was constantly repelled by the same types of persons in his own home. Frasier being a snob who looks down on the working class people in Seattle feels like a reset of his character to make him clash with nearly everybody on the show.

[–] moonmarvin 8 years ago

The Frasier on Cheers seemed to me like person who is very well in touch with himself, very conscious about his issues and fastly resolving these issues, not only compared to Sam who needs eleven seasons to even realize he's got a problem with his attitude towards women.

And except for the 11th season Frasier's a humorous and rather jolly guy, fun to watch, and really likable. Now Niles is the likable one.