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Why does Cooper seem so different?


Just saw this for the first time after binge watching telast five episodes of the show. What's up with Coop? He seems sn ot into his job when compared to the lively, happy go lucky Dale of the show. Did Lynch not think the bubbly TV Cooper would fit with the more dreary, graphic tone of the movie or something?

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He seems to be more happy go lucky in the beginning although the Cooper in the latter part of the movie maybe foreshadows what will happen to him in the tv series.


Its that man again!!

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I didn't think about that, it's an interesting theory. So in that case his acting different is a stand alone plot device solely for the movie and has no bearing on the show.

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I'm assuming it's because he didn't want to resprise his role in the movie in fear of being typecast. So they made his role smaller.

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Oh I knew they made his role small, I was just confused by why he seemed different. I guess it could have been the actor's boredom with the role showing through. It's too bad really. A little bit of optimistic, fun Coop in the first act might have helped balance out the gloomier, more graphic parts later on.

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In the series, we don't really see much of Cooper before he arrives in Twin Peaks. He's chipper at least in part because he loves the town and its people -- he feels, perhaps for the first time in his life, as though he belongs somewhere.

We learn in this movie that Cooper was always fated to spend decades (an eternity?) in the Black Lodge, because he has dreams and visions about it long before he even learns Laura Palmer's name. So in a sense, Cooper always belonged in Twin Peaks. Maybe he was bored and frustrated in his FBI cubicle, and that's coming across in his performance here.

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In the series, we don't really see much of Cooper before he arrives in Twin Peaks. He's chipper at least in part because he loves the town and its people -- he feels, perhaps for the first time in his life, as though he belongs somewhere.

We learn in this movie that Cooper was always fated to spend decades (an eternity?) in the Black Lodge, because he has dreams and visions about it long before he even learns Laura Palmer's name. So in a sense, Cooper always belonged in Twin Peaks. Maybe he was bored and frustrated in his FBI cubicle, and that's coming across in his performance here.


I like to think that the reason he has the visions/dreams is because he's stuck in the black lodge even before he gets to twin peaks. (I realise that makes no sense but I'll try to explain)

Because time functions differently in the lodge the reason he gets these dreams is because he is already there, and they've seeped through to his subconscious while he is sleeping. Maybe being in the lodge also allows some of the other spirits to visit him like the Giant.

In FWWM, hes stuck in the lodge (so its after his doppleganger escaped) but is able to communicate to Laura about not taking the ring, she shares dreams/visions with Coop because shes also stuck in the lodge.

Also just remembered, when Jeffries shows up at the FBI office he points at coop and says 'who do you think that is there' indicating that he knows thats not the real Dale Cooper (even though at this point it is).


He must be under the effect of Lorne and Eve, too, presum, presumally.

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Yeah, this is my thinking as well. Once someone enters the Black Lodge, they become unstuck in time. Since residents of the Black Lodge exist in all time periods at once, cause and effect become muddled when describing their interactions with people in the real world. Laura and Cooper each welcome each other to the Black Lodge, and there's nothing wrong with this because neither event really follows the other.

But I do think there's something to the idea that Cooper is drawn to Twin Peaks because of his connection to the Black Lodge, and that his sense of belonging is the real cause of his chipper attitude (which we don't see in FWWM).

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Agreed.

We learn in this movie that Cooper was always fated to spend decades (an eternity?) in the Black Lodge, because he has dreams and visions about it long before he even learns Laura Palmer's name. So in a sense, Cooper always belonged in Twin Peaks


But, is the only reason he's destined to spend time in the lodge, is because hes already stuck there?

About cooper being different though, I think it just came down to Lynch wanting to tell a serious story. He cut most of the twin peaks cast out of the movie because a lot of the extra scenes were comedic and didn't fit. And there is a scene with him talking to Diane and he's his usual upbeat self.


He must be under the effect of Lorne and Eve, too, presum, presumally.

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But, is the only reason he's destined to spend time in the lodge, is because hes already stuck there?


That's the real mystery, isn't it? This is probably what I would choose to discuss with Lynch, if he were inclined to speak off the record.

We get pretty solid answers regarding the significance of Laura Palmer in all this throughout the series and FWWM. But we have no idea why the Lodge residents are so interested in Cooper. He does seem to be significant to their designs, and it's pretty unsatisfying to think that the answer is, "They want him in the Lodge because he's already in the Lodge."

The Lodge's residents do appear to have free will -- their actions are not pre-destined -- because we see them get frustrated at times when they don't get exactly what they want, and they also sometimes disagree with each other. BOB really does seem to want to inhabit Laura, first and foremost, and he fails at that. So just for that reason, I'm inclined to think that there were possible actions Cooper could have taken to avoid his fate, and that ultimately he's responsible for his own imprisonment, by running off half-cocked after Annie and offering his soul to Windom Earle.

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